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Old 11-22-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Unless someone really REALLY believes the ZR1 won't overheat and they absolutely, positively want to track a SC C7, there is no rational reason for doing so.
You had no rational reason for your vette purchase, nor did I or anyone else. It's just the degree of irrationality we want to sink to or rise to depending on how you want to look at it.
Old 11-22-2017, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NNNInvestment
This is a great time to put the word out. We all know that Trade in value from the dealership could be an insult at best. I know you can get a tax credit but it still substantially lower then selling privately.
Count me out of the group that gets "insulted" at his dealership with trade-in offers. They offer, I counter, and we typically meet at a reasonable medium. I get "insulted" more regularly by private buyers when they make truly silly offers for my cars when I am testing the private buyer waters.

I'm going to respond that there is absolutely no way that I plan on selling my '16 C7Z for a ZR1. No way....unless I happen to see one that I'd like to own and my business is still humming along. Retirement's already locked down with funds squirreled away over the decades. I'm just lucky enough to be playing with house money now.

On the other hand? If I want 750+ to play with? Callaway might be a reasonable upgrade, a less expensive one.

We'll see how this all rolls out in about 6 months. Yep.
Old 11-22-2017, 10:24 AM
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I just traded my pristine ‘15 fully loaded A8 Z06/7 with 10K miles on it and was given $62K. This was, given the market, a good valuation as most other trades were coming in at around $57K. So in 31 months of ownership I lost $46K off of my purchase price of $108K. Of course back then everyone was paying MSRP or close to it.

Even though the ZR1 will be awesome and was on my radar, there was simply no way that I was going to spend $140K-$150K on one, only to find out that the A8 version, again, overheated on a road course. Not saying it will, just that I don’t have much faith in GM standing behind the product after the C7 A8 Z06 road course debacle re: overheating.

So I bought a 2018 AMG GT R. It gets delivered on the 27th.

Bish
Old 11-22-2017, 12:03 PM
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bang for buck
You can't use the "bang for buck" or "dollars per horsepower" metric on a new car, because that's not the "value" you're paying for in a new car, period.

If that were the metric, we'd all have Novas with 572 crate motors and ladder bars.
Old 11-22-2017, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
I just traded my pristine ‘15 fully loaded A8 Z06/7 with 10K miles on it and was given $62K. This was, given the market, a good valuation as most other trades were coming in at around $57K. So in 31 months of ownership I lost $46K off of my purchase price of $108K. Of course back then everyone was paying MSRP or close to it.

Even though the ZR1 will be awesome and was on my radar, there was simply no way that I was going to spend $140K-$150K on one, only to find out that the A8 version, again, overheated on a road course. Not saying it will, just that I don’t have much faith in GM standing behind the product after the C7 A8 Z06 road course debacle re: overheating.

So I bought a 2018 AMG GT R. It gets delivered on the 27th.

Bish
Not a bad loss. Equal to about what a lease payment would have been.
Feel like a winner!!
Old 11-22-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rob62
You had no rational reason for your vette purchase, nor did I or anyone else. It's just the degree of irrationality we want to sink to or rise to depending on how you want to look at it.
You have a point...

Originally Posted by thebishman
Even though the ZR1 will be awesome and was on my radar, there was simply no way that I was going to spend $140K-$150K on one, only to find out that the A8 version, again, overheated on a road course. Not saying it will, just that I don’t have much faith in GM standing behind the product after the C7 A8 Z06 road course debacle re: overheating.
This little bit of C7 history should give EVERY potential buyer a pause.
They didn't stand behind the Z06...so why should anyone believe they will stand behind the ZR1?
So I bought a 2018 AMG GT R. It gets delivered on the 27th.
Nice car, congrats.
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Old 11-22-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
You can't use the "bang for buck" or "dollars per horsepower" metric on a new car, because that's not the "value" you're paying for in a new car, period.

If that were the metric, we'd all have Novas with 572 crate motors and ladder bars.
yes you can and it is done on many a Corvette purchase.
Why did you buy your Z06 over the base C7?
These are bought with that in mind.
Old 11-22-2017, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
I just traded my pristine ‘15 fully loaded A8 Z06/7 with 10K miles on it and was given $62K. This was, given the market, a good valuation as most other trades were coming in at around $57K. So in 31 months of ownership I lost $46K off of my purchase price of $108K. Of course back then everyone was paying MSRP or close to it.

Even though the ZR1 will be awesome and was on my radar, there was simply no way that I was going to spend $140K-$150K on one, only to find out that the A8 version, again, overheated on a road course. Not saying it will, just that I don’t have much faith in GM standing behind the product after the C7 A8 Z06 road course debacle re: overheating.

So I bought a 2018 AMG GT R. It gets delivered on the 27th.

Bish

Congrats on the new ride, Bish.

Please come back and report what you think of the rig. It seems like the real deal.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:38 PM
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Not enough differences for me to make the switch. Happy with my 16 Z06 and I'd get screwed on a trade in or even selling the car.
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Im the same way. Love the 2016 Z07 too much to trade it in for a huge loss. The ZR1 only has 100 more HP, and new front end and a huge wing on the rear. Not enough for me to spend 130k on a new vette. Now if someone wants to give me what I bought it for then maybe? LOL
Old 11-23-2017, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wonka12_98
Not enough differences for me to make the switch. Happy with my 16 Z06 and I'd get screwed on a trade in or even selling the car.
Originally Posted by vettejeff
Im the same way. Love the 2016 Z07 too much to trade it in for a huge loss. The ZR1 only has 100 more HP, and new front end and a huge wing on the rear. Not enough for me to spend 130k on a new vette. Now if someone wants to give me what I bought it for then maybe? LOL
MSRP for the ZR1 then bottom of the barrel for my Z06 doesn't interest me. I really like the Z06's and the lt4 and have become hooked on having both the A8
and M7.

In which both sacrifice something to the other car.

One owns the standing start and the other owns the road.
Which would still be true if you only owned one ZR1.
Old 11-23-2017, 09:05 PM
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I'm keeping the z for the time being.
Old 11-24-2017, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NNNInvestment
This is a great time to put the word out. We all know that Trade in value from the dealership could be an insult at best. I know you can get a tax credit but it still substantially lower then selling privately.
Seems for months you have been kicking the tires on new Corvette's then cross shopping back and forth them kick some more tires. Just grab a 1lz Z06 for a bargain and enjoy a great sports car that for the price you paid nothing compares.
The Corvette is a sports car at heart and not a luxury trim car. The 1 lz MSRP of 80k can be inflated to near 120k. 50 percent more for essentially the same sports car on the street except lighter is better less is more
. Plus you have got past the huge losses 2-3 years later suffered
from reselling the loaded Corvette.
Take a big discount and buy now! No worries about being too insulted when you trade because you might not!
Old 11-24-2017, 09:44 PM
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I’ll probably sell my ‘15 Z07 for the ZR1. Plan on getting it up on Autotrader this weekend to test the waters.
Old 11-24-2017, 09:58 PM
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I'm seriously considering letting my 16 Z06 go for a ZR1. I have to see one in person first, and then it will depend on the starting sticker price. Either way, I still have a Corvette.
Old 11-24-2017, 10:34 PM
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I will probably sell one of mine.
Old 11-24-2017, 10:36 PM
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Well I’m still in the market.

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Old 11-26-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Unless someone really REALLY believes the ZR1 won't overheat and they absolutely, positively want to track a SC C7, there is no rational reason for doing so.
Totally agree with that statement. Lets face it this is the swan song for the C7 and GM knows there will be enough anxious people that will buy this car even if it overheats. Seeing how they really stepped up and took care of the Z06 people with overheating issues nobody should hold their breath.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:47 PM
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Exactly.

Until some guys take a BIG leap of faith and take the car to the track and try to run it all day long in high heat, buying a ZR1 is problematic IMO.
Let's be clear...the ZR1 was designed as a Track Monster (and there is nothing wrong with that).
Simply look at the splitter and rear wing for confirmation.

I can't see the point of buying this beast and make it primarily a street car.
As a Z06 owner, I can comfortably say 650hp/tq. is rarely useful during my driving experience.
Sure, it's a mighty kick-in-the-butt during short bursts, but still...

Of course, YMMV.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Exactly.

Until some guys take a BIG leap of faith and take the car to the track and try to run it all day long in high heat, buying a ZR1 is problematic IMO.
Let's be clear...the ZR1 was designed as a Track Monster (and there is nothing wrong with that).
Simply look at the splitter and rear wing for confirmation.

I can't see the point of buying this beast and make it primarily a street car.
As a Z06 owner, I can comfortably say 650hp/tq. is rarely useful during my driving experience.
Sure, it's a mighty kick-in-the-butt during short bursts, but still...

Of course, YMMV.
For a street car just swap the blower to the Heartbeat.


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