Epic wreck, "racecar driver" from Pa in Dec on the bald Cup2's? Now ya did it!
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Epic wreck, "racecar driver" from Pa in Dec on the bald Cup2's? Now ya did it!
Sent from a friend in Pa. Word is, no passenger and the guy walked away Surprised insurance will pay for these accidents. Bald Cup2's, Dec surface temps in Pa (this is a WV border area)....just cause the sun is shinin doesn't make it all good.
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12-05-2017, 04:24 PM
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It really is hard to believe the manufacturers put the Sport Cup 2 tires on cars that an unsuspecting consumer can buy and drive. I would think it would be a huge liability for them for possible litigation. Its not like your car salesman is going to say anything negative about the tires and lose the sale.
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Yikes.
He did a hell of a job fitting it on that porch - most of the porch pillars still intact. . . .
p.s. I call dibs on the water pump, and the rear diff; be good to have spares, those seem hard to get.
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He did a hell of a job fitting it on that porch - most of the porch pillars still intact. . . .
p.s. I call dibs on the water pump, and the rear diff; be good to have spares, those seem hard to get.
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It really is hard to believe the manufacturers put the Sport Cup 2 tires on cars that an unsuspecting consumer can buy and drive. I would think it would be a huge liability for them for possible litigation. Its not like your car salesman is going to say anything negative about the tires and lose the sale.
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It really is hard to believe the manufacturers put the Sport Cup 2 tires on cars that an unsuspecting consumer can buy and drive. I would think it would be a huge liability for them for possible litigation. Its not like your car salesman is going to say anything negative about the tires and lose the sale.
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It really is hard to believe the manufacturers put the Sport Cup 2 tires on cars that an unsuspecting consumer can buy and drive. I would think it would be a huge liability for them for possible litigation. Its not like your car salesman is going to say anything negative about the tires and lose the sale.
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I agree. Unsuspecting, I don't think so. As to what happened I haven't seen enough info to determine how he got it on the porch. Maybe somebody told him if he can't run with the big dogs to get back on the porch. Heck of a waste.
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You guys are taking my comment out of context. How many people know what Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires are? Anybody with a decent credit score and a job can drive away in a Z06. Don't you think there should be some instruction and forewarnings about the capability of the tires or lack of in cold and wet weather. Just sayin....
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You guys are taking my comment out of context. How many people know what Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires are? Anybody with a decent credit score and a job can drive away in a Z06. Don't you think there should be some instruction and forewarnings about the capability of the tires or lack of in cold and wet weather. Just sayin....
So as to not stray too far off topic, that separated front tire on the crashed car was completely bald. Maybe the dealer forgot to let them know though.
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"Word is, no passenger and the guy walked away"
The question is how the hell did he get out.
The question is how the hell did he get out.
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You guys are taking my comment out of context. How many people know what Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires are? Anybody with a decent credit score and a job can drive away in a Z06. Don't you think there should be some instruction and forewarnings about the capability of the tires or lack of in cold and wet weather. Just sayin....
https://my.chevrolet.com/learnAbout/chevrolettires/
Caveat emptor. At least no one was hurt.
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That tire isn’t bald, I could get a whole day at VIR out of that tire.
Not looking for overreaching oversight of trying to keep us safe. Just providing a counter point.
Not looking for overreaching oversight of trying to keep us safe. Just providing a counter point.
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Maybe it wasn't the tires. Just over-driving, drinking, drugs, sheer stupidity, or an evasive maneuver. Is there certainty around the tires being the cause? Remember the phrase: O Caveat Emptor.
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You guys are taking my comment out of context. How many people know what Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires are? Anybody with a decent credit score and a job can drive away in a Z06. Don't you think there should be some instruction and forewarnings about the capability of the tires or lack of in cold and wet weather. Just sayin....
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It really is hard to believe the manufacturers put the Sport Cup 2 tires on cars that an unsuspecting consumer can buy and drive. I would think it would be a huge liability for them for possible litigation. Its not like your car salesman is going to say anything negative about the tires and lose the sale.
And GM offers discounts to all original owners to an advance driving school to "train" owners to deal with the cars dynamics and demonstrate the cars capabilities.
Keep in mind:
1. The car takes into account the tire temps and dials back torque based on predicted traction for the OEM tires at that temp.
2. The stability control (yaw control) system has control over individual wheel braking to keep the car pointed in the direction the driver points the wheel.
3. Traction Control has control over the throttle and the brakes to eliminate wheel slip under acceleration when the available traction is limited or lost.
4. It takes a deliberate effort to override these protections.
I wasn't there but the conditions that allow this to happen on the street could only occur if the driver disabled some if not all of the nannies or was way outside the limit of safe speeds on public roads. This is of course assuming this is a one vehicle accident and the driver wasn't forced off the road or distracted or a mechanical component broke or some outside cause of that nature.
This is precisely why the nannies have names like "traction control" "Stability control" "Performance Traction Management" and selections like Touring vs "TRACK". Hints to any reasonable person.
Its very hard to get to the point where the car doesn't save itself or a dumb driver.... unless the driver is just dumb enough to ignore all those warning names (mentioned above) when disabling nannies and the yellow Corvette caution icon with the skid marks behind it on the dash. Or the warnings that come up in the DIC.
I am the last one to criticize anyone for pushing the envelope and losing a car. Happens to the best of us. But to say its the manufactures fault is a bit of a stretch. Its like folks with pit bulls saying I didn't know he would eat the baby? Yea ok.
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You guys are taking my comment out of context. How many people know what Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires are? Anybody with a decent credit score and a job can drive away in a Z06. Don't you think there should be some instruction and forewarnings about the capability of the tires or lack of in cold and wet weather. Just sayin....