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Old 12-18-2017, 08:33 AM   #41  
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Get a dual clutch gearbox and it is, without out it yes the 7sp is.
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Beauty and supercar is in the eye of the beholder....therefore I am holding a 2017 Z06 LBR M7....there its a Super Car Beauty and its mine.....and I don't care what is written etc as I am completely satisfied.
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1st off, I think the Z06 is pretty damn SUPER, however I think the "Super Car" title is reserved for cars that meet not only "performance" benchmarks but also have an "exotic" edge combined with unique "rarity"...I think the Z06 hits the performance and partial exotic need, but I think falls off the "super car" list due to the high production numbers. However, it is those high production numbers that provide me with the opportunity to own and drive one regularly! Just my $.02

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Regardless of our opinions or the actions GM might take, the auto press will never use the term "supercar" in the same sentence with anything wearing a "bow-tie".

Only exception would be to explain how superior import offerings are to the Chevy, regardless of the merits...

Nope, don't care what their opinions are and quite thankful to be able to enjoy a technological and performance marvel.


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Was chit chatting with a co-worker and he's not sure if it falls into that status.

My take, the Z06 is an entry level supercar. Do you guys agree?

Few examples:

Entry level supercars
C7 Z06/ZR1
Dodge Viper
Nissan GTR
Audi R8 V8/V10
Mercedes AMG GTR
Porsche GT3/Turbo S
Acura NSX


Supercars

Huracan
Aventador
458 Italia
488 GTB
GT2 RS
Mclaren 570s
Ford GT
Carerra GT

Hypercars
Bugatti
LaFerrari
Koenisegg
Venom GT
Pagani
Mclaren P1
Great list -- nothing to disagree with. As the owner of a McLaren 570 and a previous owner of Ferraris, the only reason our Z06s are not considered 'supercars' is due to their high production numbers and lack of a luxury brand logo.
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Regardless of our opinions or the actions GM might take, the auto press will never use the term "supercar" in the same sentence with anything wearing a "bow-tie".

Only exception would be to explain how superior import offerings are to the Chevy, regardless of the merits...

Nope, don't care what their opinions are and quite thankful to be able to enjoy a technological and performance marvel.


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I'm with you I could care less! I feel good in my own skin and Z06! They might think supercar when you drive away from many of those on the supposed list! A lot of MEH!
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Well it seems like all the knock on the Z06/ZR1 is the price and the non-exclusiveness of it.. it can be a Chevy and be a super car just like the LFA and Ford GT.

Funny how the Z07 can mop the floor against the LFA and Ford GT with track times, 1/4 mile times but just because there are more of it, cost less its not classified as being remotely close to a supercar. Geeze let's make the Z06 cost $250k then and so it can be classified as a supercar. With the exotic looks and performance, it has the right to cost that much in a sense.

GM gave us a BARGAIN with supercar performance but yet some of us are looking down on it because of the price tag.. sure price plays a pivotal point especially for exclusiveness but unfortunately that is not my only criteria for judgment.

If the Ford GT and LFA cost 200k, I'll still take a loaded $110k Z06 ANYDAY. The only car under around 200k that I would choose over a Z06 is the Audi R8 V10.

Sorry, this cars just looks menacing, exotic and performs pretty damn well to pass up.. thus, a supercar for a bargain of a price.
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Was chit chatting with a co-worker and he's not sure if it falls into that status.

My take, the Z06 is an entry level supercar. Do you guys agree?

Few examples:

Entry level supercars
C7 Z06/ZR1
Dodge Viper
Nissan GTR
Audi R8 V8/V10
Mercedes AMG GTR
Porsche GT3/Turbo S
Acura NSX


Supercars

Huracan
Aventador
458 Italia
488 GTB
GT2 RS
Mclaren 570s
Ford GT
Carerra GT

Hypercars
Bugatti
LaFerrari
Koenisegg
Venom GT
Pagani
Mclaren P1
Awesome list. Very well done sir. Although I would say anything after the Z06 will have HUGE maintenance costs, but I can go to Napa auto parts and get almost all the Z06 wear-and-tear parts I need at a good price

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Even though the R8 is a nice looking car, the C7 clearly is a more aggressive. I would choose the C7 over it all day long.
Would you really take a C7 Z07/C7 ZR1 over a 2017/18 R8 V10+?
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Would you really take a C7 Z07/C7 ZR1 over a 2017/18 R8 V10+?
I would. No question. The V10+ is a 200K car that looks like a 100K car. Is slower. Handles worse. More expensive to maintain. For 200K that is Lambo, McLaren price range. I would even take a Z06/ZR1 over a Turbo S Porcshe.

Cars I would take over a Z06/ZR1 C7.

Ferrari 812 Superfast
Ferrari 488
Ferrari LaFerrari
Lambo Huracan Performante
McLaren 720S
McLaren P1
Porsche 911 GT2
Porsche 918
Koenigsegg <any>
Pagani <any>

Numerous vintage supercars/racecars with number one and two being a GT40 MKV and the Ferrari 330 P4.
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I would. No question. The V10+ is a 200K car that looks like a 100K car. Is slower. Handles worse. More expensive to maintain. For 200K that is Lambo, McLaren price range. I would even take a Z06/ZR1 over a Turbo S Porcshe.

Cars I would take over a Z06/ZR1 C7.

Ferrari 812 Superfast
Ferrari 488
Ferrari LaFerrari
Lambo Huracan Performante
McLaren 720S
McLaren P1
Porsche 911 GT2
Porsche 918
Koenigsegg <any>
Pagani <any>

Numerous vintage supercars/racecars with number one and two being a GT40 MKV and the Ferrari 330 P4.
Hmm.. the 2nd Gen Audi V10 Plus is a 10.6 secs 1/4 mile car and runs 2.6 secs 0-60. In a straight line it's probably on par with an auto C7 ZR1. It would lose on the tracks however it does come with the crappy P-Zeros.. put on Cup 2's and it'll do better.

The ONLY thing the Audi has on the Z07/ZR1 is price and it's more exclusive.

The Vette looks more supercar-ish while the Audi is more toned looking. With that said, it may be hard to pass up a new V10+.

What new-ish Lambo is 200k? Could have sworn they'll be at least 350k+..
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Hmm.. the 2nd Gen Audi V10 Plus is a 10.6 secs 1/4 mile car and runs 2.6 secs 0-60. In a straight line it's probably on par with an auto C7 ZR1. It would lose on the tracks however it does come with the crappy P-Zeros.. put on Cup 2's and it'll do better.

The ONLY thing the Audi has on the Z07/ZR1 is price and it's more exclusive.

The Vette looks more supercar-ish while the Audi is more toned looking. With that said, it may be hard to pass up a new V10+.

What new-ish Lambo is 200k? Could have sworn they'll be at least 350k+..
The Huracan starts at 200K.

https://www.caranddriver.com/lamborghini/huracan

Also not sure about those numbers on the Audi.

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-r8

Right from the Audi website.

V10+

602HP / 413 lb-ft ( boo on the torque)

0-60 = 3.2 sec

Top speed 205 mph

The numbers you gave line up more with the Huracan Performante which is a whole other animal.

Each to their own but I would not spend my pennies on a R8 if I had to have a V10 then Huracan all the way.
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Was chit chatting with a co-worker and he's not sure if it falls into that status.

My take, the Z06 is an entry level supercar. Do you guys agree?

Few examples:

Entry level supercars
C7 Z06/ZR1
Dodge Viper
Nissan GTR
Audi R8 V8/V10
Mercedes AMG GTR
Porsche GT3/Turbo S
Acura NSX


Supercars

Huracan
Aventador
458 Italia
488 GTB
GT2 RS
Mclaren 570s
Ford GT
Carerra GT

Hypercars
Bugatti
LaFerrari
Koenisegg
Venom GT
Pagani
Mclaren P1
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It does everything they do as well or better and it costs around 1/3 and is just as or more reliable than they are. Probably fills the Super Car bill better than they do.

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Then the rest do they really matter when they cost 1/2 million and up and are made in small numbers? So small you never see them?
Only to the few that are willing to spent that much and lottery winners
and magazine racers who drive Hondas.
Sports car?
Most people buy a Corvette!

As far as mass produced sports cars and considering the huge aftermarket their is no doubt the Corvette is best value on the list with by far and away with the aftermarket the most performance potential.
The more I drive my Z06 pushing 800 hp on pump gas. The more I giggle!
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I don't know what 'they say' about terminology of 'super cars'

but in my mind, all that makes it a super car, is the look

For example, a 7 or 6 second 1/4 mile car POS mustang or something. that isn't a super car, no way no how. So it isn't the speed that makes it a super car.

NSX, porsche. 240sx can out handle anything when modded, or nearly so, but they are not super cars either. So it isn't the handling.

All thats left is the paint and style.
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The Huracan starts at 200K.

https://www.caranddriver.com/lamborghini/huracan

Also not sure about those numbers on the Audi.

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-r8

Right from the Audi website.

V10+

602HP / 413 lb-ft ( boo on the torque)

0-60 = 3.2 sec

Top speed 205 mph

The numbers you gave line up more with the Huracan Performante which is a whole other animal.

Each to their own but I would not spend my pennies on a R8 if I had to have a V10 then Huracan all the way.
Wow you're right, the Huracan is from $200k.. in that case, no way I would take an R8 over a Lambo!

My price range is $100-$120k.. so it'll have to be used, 4-5 years old.

Yeah the R8 V10+ is a beast, many places tested the 0-60 under 3 secs.

And this video too lol
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Beauty and supercar is in the eye of the beholder....therefore I am holding a 2017 Z06 LBR M7....there its a Super Car Beauty and its mine.....and I don't care what is written etc as I am completely satisfied.

That is it in a nut shell! Got to be happy in your own skin. Love my 2 Z06's. Love the HUGE aftermarket as well! What we have many choices to
make the Corvette as fast as any on the list just depends on what you want to spend!
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Obviously your definition of a supercar is different then mine. Maybe you arenít mad but Iíve met several so called supercar owners that hate on the vette because it out performs their high dollar version of a supercar. So I may not be right about you but Iím right about others.
Which supercar does it outperform?
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Which supercar does it outperform?
Well, if we're talking "supercars", then we're looking at 0-60, and Nordschleife lap times, as well as g-pad numbers. NOT 1/4 mile times.

For the "Ring", the Z06 has the 14th fastest lap time on record at 7:13.90, just .9 slower than a 918 Spyder, and faster than:

Ferrari 488
Pagani Zonda
Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4
McLaren MP4-12C
Lamborghine Huracan LP 610-4

Just to name a few.

But still not a supercar...

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Quote definition for Supercar vs Hypecar-Supercars can be best defined with their most common characteristics: performance, technology, design and price. They don’t need to hold elevated status in all four characteristics to qualify, and most often performance is then used as the ultimate yardstick. Case in point, the Corvette C7 ZO6. It puts up amazing numbers and lap times and has a compelling design, but only costs $80,000, significantly lower than its competitors. Despite the low price, it’s still a supercar. The McLaren 650S has design language handed down from the P1 and sub-three-second 0-60 times, but offers nothing in the way of unique or boundary-pushing technology. Also a supercar. Then you have a simplistic car like the Ariel Atom V8. There’s little to speak of in terms of design, since it’s basically a cage on wheels. It also costs a fraction of the cost of any other claimed supercar, yet it can outrun most of them around a track. The Ariel Atom’s race-car level of performance makes up for the simplistic design, basic tech and relatively low price. Supercar. But, to get to hypercar status, a car has to meet all the characteristics of a supercar, and push the boundaries of performance, technology and design.

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Meaningless definition, allow me to explain:

I buy a 1992 skyline GT-R. (Not a super car by any stretch) or arguably a supercar by any means?

It cost $5000. Original 2.0 etc... whatever. I put my built slightly short stroke 8,200rpm 400-500cid w twin rear mount 80lb/min oilless cartridge & oval coated stainless with every suspension mod necessary and tuned. And now it does 200 or 250mph or whatever also.

Still not a supercar?
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