2018 stock Z06 vs 2018 stock Nissan GT-R
06-03-2018, 07:10 PM
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2018 stock Z06 vs 2018 stock Nissan GT-R
I know most people on this forum love the vettes first but I also know many who have owned other nice cars and can give an honest opinion after writing a check with their own money. So if my 2018 2lz z06 auto were to go head to head with a stock 2018 Nissan GT-R which car will have its pros and cons where? Comfort? Performance? Daily driver reliability and gas mileage? Id like to hear the good, bad and ugly without any bias if possible.
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06-04-2018, 12:44 PM
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I know most people on this forum love the vettes first but I also know many who have owned other nice cars and can give an honest opinion after writing a check with their own money. So if my 2018 2lz z06 auto were to go head to head with a stock 2018 Nissan GT-R which car will have its pros and cons where? Comfort? Performance? Daily driver reliability and gas mileage? Id like to hear the good, bad and ugly without any bias if possible.
A bone-stock GT-R, at least for me, was not a terribly exciting car. It's an excellent daily driver; comfy, quiet, awd, good stereo, etc, but except for the acceleration, which is rapid, it doesn't really get the blood flowing. This is fixed with some simple mods. I recently went the FBO (full bolt-on) route with AMS downpipes/mp, 3" intakes, exhaust, injectors, tune, etc, and besides it being much faster, the car now has real character to it. The noise is exciting with burbles, turbo sounds, BOV sounds, lots of fun. And still quiet at cruise, reliable and a perfect daily.
A bone-stock C7Z will be more exciting. It's loud in track mode from the factory, lights the tires up at 50mph, looks more aggressive, sits low like a sports car, and is just overall a better "fun" car than a GT-R.
As for gas mileage, both are not great. GT-R is maybe 1-2mpg better. I have averaged 17 in the Vette and 19 in the GT-R. And my Vette is a 7spd, so the auto will likely be worse than that.
Can't comment on reliability with the Vette, but the GT-R has been flawless. 27K miles, just oil changes. GT-R does go through brakes quicker due to the weight. GT-R also needs a trans/diff flush every 36K miles which costs $2,000 at a dealer. And the OEM GT-R Dunlop tires only last about 12K miles. Replace those with MPSS when they are done and you'll be fine though. Both cars feel solid, and while the C7 interior is very nice and the best Vette yet, I think the GT-R feels just slightly like it is built better. But the build quality is close.
Comfort is pretty close between the cars. GT-R DCT is much smoother post-2015, but still won't be quite as smooth in stop and go as the A8. However, if you like to shift manually, the DCT is fantasticly responsive in R-mode and the A8 is not even worth using the cheap plastic paddles it's so bad. But the A8 is fine if left to shift itself.
Performance is close. The Vette handles slightly better, stops better and would be better around a road course. The GT-R is faster from 0-60 due to the AWD. The GT-R can also do a 3-second 0-60 on a 20 degree day on winter tires or in the rain, so it is ALWAYS usable, which is something I have really grown to love about it. Where-as the Z06 is only a weapon when the road conditions are perfect. My GT-R made 574whp/588tq with FBO and my Z06 makes 580rwhp/568tw with just an Xpipe, BMS filter and Mamo TB. Haven't run them side-by-side yet, but I expect a very close race.
Both cars get lots of attention. I'd say my black Z07 package Z06 gets more comments and attention though. But I get kids pulling out cell phones when I'm in both. However, I feel more comfortable parking the GT-R. 95% of the population just thinks it's a gray, sporty $40,000 Nissan, so if I leave it someplace I'm not worried about anyone messing with it. Only car enthusiasts know what it is, and they will respect the car. The Vette likely is observed as more-flashy by the majority of regular folks.
Which one to buy? If you can, drive them both, but the GT-R may leave you cold after just a short drive. I honestly took a good year of GT-R ownership, plus some mods, before I completely feel in love with it, now I love it as much as my Vette just due to it's breadth of ability. If you have another car like an SUV and this will be mostly for fun driving, the Z06 is the more fun "second car". As your only car to drive every day, the GT-R is probably the better choice.
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06-03-2018, 07:49 PM
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I went with the z06 because I managed to get a 10 year/100k zero deductible at any Chevy dealer bumper 2 bumper warranty for $3k. They don't even offer a warranty that long on a GT-R.
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06-03-2018, 08:56 PM
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06-03-2018, 08:56 PM
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GTR Nismo (most track capable) is about double the cost of the Z06 and about 5 seconds slower. Great car for a V6, amazing what Nissan did with that car. But no, sorry, slower around VIR and at double the cost is hardly a value. When you factor in resale the GTR becomes an even worse proposition. The Nismo's top speed is listed at 196mph versus 205mph for the Z06. I would guess that the Nissan would be better in the snow and 4 seats definitely appeals to some.
$400K Ford GT (2017) 2:43.0
$845K Porsche 918 Spyder (2015) 2:43.1
$120K Mercedes-AMG GT R (2018) 2:43.4
$120K Dodge Viper ACR (2016) 2:44.2
$74K Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2015) 2:44.6
$257K Ferrari 488 GTB (2016) 2:45.1
$266K McLaren 650S Spider (2015) 2:45.8
$188K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2017) 2:46.8
$177K Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2016) 2:47.0
$185K McLaren 570S (2016) 2:47.4
$237K Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 (2015)2:47.5
$150K Nissan GT-R NISMO (2015) 2:49.4
$243K Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) 2:49.9
$156K Acura NSX (2017) 2:50.2
$146K Porsche 911 GT3 (2015) 2:50.4
$330K Ferrari F12berlinetta (2014) 2:50.8
$132K Mercedes-AMG GT S (2016) 2:51.0
$148K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2014) 2:51.2
$135K BMW M4 GTS (2016) 2:52.9
$117K Nissan GT-R Track Edition (2017) 2:53.2
$375K Lexus LFA (2012) 2:55.1
$194K Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2017) 2:56.1
$105K Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9
$400K Ford GT (2017) 2:43.0
$845K Porsche 918 Spyder (2015) 2:43.1
$120K Mercedes-AMG GT R (2018) 2:43.4
$120K Dodge Viper ACR (2016) 2:44.2
$74K Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2015) 2:44.6
$257K Ferrari 488 GTB (2016) 2:45.1
$266K McLaren 650S Spider (2015) 2:45.8
$188K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2017) 2:46.8
$177K Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2016) 2:47.0
$185K McLaren 570S (2016) 2:47.4
$237K Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 (2015)2:47.5
$150K Nissan GT-R NISMO (2015) 2:49.4
$243K Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) 2:49.9
$156K Acura NSX (2017) 2:50.2
$146K Porsche 911 GT3 (2015) 2:50.4
$330K Ferrari F12berlinetta (2014) 2:50.8
$132K Mercedes-AMG GT S (2016) 2:51.0
$148K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2014) 2:51.2
$135K BMW M4 GTS (2016) 2:52.9
$117K Nissan GT-R Track Edition (2017) 2:53.2
$375K Lexus LFA (2012) 2:55.1
$194K Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2017) 2:56.1
$105K Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9
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06-03-2018, 09:49 PM
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I recently bought a 19 z06 and would fall into the vette first category. That said, I've always like the GTR, it's an amazing performance car. I have 2 good friends with a GTR, so I know them decently, but have not owned one.
For me on why z06:
- Aesthetics & Sound
- V8 v V6
- No M7 option on GTR
My friends' reason for loving it:
- V6 TT w/ AWD Drive
- DCT Auto
- Lower driving skill level required than by the z06 to put down fast laps at CotA.
You can read stats all day, but go see & drive them both, then decide for yourself.
For me on why z06:
- Aesthetics & Sound
- V8 v V6
- No M7 option on GTR
My friends' reason for loving it:
- V6 TT w/ AWD Drive
- DCT Auto
- Lower driving skill level required than by the z06 to put down fast laps at CotA.
You can read stats all day, but go see & drive them both, then decide for yourself.
06-03-2018, 10:00 PM
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hard to beat all wheel drive in a drag race.
06-03-2018, 10:57 PM
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06-03-2018, 10:58 PM
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Here is how I look at it from a non-professional racer’s opinion.
AWD = good for snow but takes little skill to go fast
Auto = Fast but also takes little to no skill to go fast
AWD & Auto = Fast but F-N Boring as hell to drive and knowing anybody’s grandma can go as fast as you sucks *** water.
The Z is much more fun to drive(especially the m7, but I’m biased) let alone the sound difference and looks. New Viper or GT500 would be a better choice in my book.
AWD = good for snow but takes little skill to go fast
Auto = Fast but also takes little to no skill to go fast
AWD & Auto = Fast but F-N Boring as hell to drive and knowing anybody’s grandma can go as fast as you sucks *** water.
The Z is much more fun to drive(especially the m7, but I’m biased) let alone the sound difference and looks. New Viper or GT500 would be a better choice in my book.
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06-03-2018, 11:38 PM
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GTR Nismo (most track capable) is about double the cost of the Z06 and about 5 seconds slower. Great car for a V6, amazing what Nissan did with that car. But no, sorry, slower around VIR and at double the cost is hardly a value. When you factor in resale the GTR becomes an even worse proposition. The Nismo's top speed is listed at 196mph versus 205mph for the Z06. I would guess that the Nissan would be better in the snow and 4 seats definitely appeals to some.
$400K Ford GT (2017) 2:43.0
$845K Porsche 918 Spyder (2015) 2:43.1
$120K Mercedes-AMG GT R (2018) 2:43.4
$120K Dodge Viper ACR (2016) 2:44.2
$74K Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2015) 2:44.6
$257K Ferrari 488 GTB (2016) 2:45.1
$266K McLaren 650S Spider (2015) 2:45.8
$188K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2017) 2:46.8
$177K Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2016) 2:47.0
$185K McLaren 570S (2016) 2:47.4
$237K Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 (2015)2:47.5
$150K Nissan GT-R NISMO (2015) 2:49.4
$243K Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) 2:49.9
$156K Acura NSX (2017) 2:50.2
$146K Porsche 911 GT3 (2015) 2:50.4
$330K Ferrari F12berlinetta (2014) 2:50.8
$132K Mercedes-AMG GT S (2016) 2:51.0
$148K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2014) 2:51.2
$135K BMW M4 GTS (2016) 2:52.9
$117K Nissan GT-R Track Edition (2017) 2:53.2
$375K Lexus LFA (2012) 2:55.1
$194K Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2017) 2:56.1
$105K Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9
$400K Ford GT (2017) 2:43.0
$845K Porsche 918 Spyder (2015) 2:43.1
$120K Mercedes-AMG GT R (2018) 2:43.4
$120K Dodge Viper ACR (2016) 2:44.2
$74K Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2015) 2:44.6
$257K Ferrari 488 GTB (2016) 2:45.1
$266K McLaren 650S Spider (2015) 2:45.8
$188K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2017) 2:46.8
$177K Porsche 911 GT3 RS (2016) 2:47.0
$185K McLaren 570S (2016) 2:47.4
$237K Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 (2015)2:47.5
$150K Nissan GT-R NISMO (2015) 2:49.4
$243K Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) 2:49.9
$156K Acura NSX (2017) 2:50.2
$146K Porsche 911 GT3 (2015) 2:50.4
$330K Ferrari F12berlinetta (2014) 2:50.8
$132K Mercedes-AMG GT S (2016) 2:51.0
$148K Porsche 911 Turbo S (2014) 2:51.2
$135K BMW M4 GTS (2016) 2:52.9
$117K Nissan GT-R Track Edition (2017) 2:53.2
$375K Lexus LFA (2012) 2:55.1
$194K Audi R8 V-10 Plus (2017) 2:56.1
$105K Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9
This list is a reality check for the haters....
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06-03-2018, 11:56 PM
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The only reason to go GTR is to go big power, billet block, ETS kit, and the whole 9. Which is my plan once I purchase a GTR in the coming years if I decide to. The GTR is a good purchase if you want 4 seats and want straight line speed.
06-04-2018, 11:30 AM
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06-04-2018, 11:45 AM
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From an observational standpoint I rarely see GTRs on track (used to see more but the number has dropped off over the last 3 or 4 years). Most of the ones I do see aren't driven that well to be a challenge and the ones that are driven well are about as capable as most of the well driven C6Zs. What you see at the track are the following and not in any particular order: The top 3 are Corvettes, Porsches and BMWs (all flavors as there are many different performance levels). Then there is the next category which consists of Camaro's and Mustangs. Then Miatas (especially if a short tight track, on tracks with long straights they become a rolling road block as do some of the lower power BMWs). I have seen more Ferraris and Lamborghinis than I have GTRs. If the GTR provided a real performance benefit at a reasonable cost per event a number of people driving those other brands would have switched over to them by now.
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06-04-2018, 12:18 PM
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It's just so old. I hope they redesign it from the ground up. It's been the same forever. And I'm sure a much needed next gen redesign would bring the GTR back to the main conversation.
I remember being at Englishtown Raceway Park only open to a couple magazines for a shoot in 2008 for the about to be released C6 ZR1 and there was a GTR there he was running mid 11s at idk what mph. But it was par for the course nothing to be shocked by.
I was there to test the (new and about to be released) 20 inch drag radial from Nitto. This was for Super Chevy.
on a side note the ZR1 was running 11.0s on stock rubber stock psi @ 130 to 134 all day. Temp was about 60f. I don't recall the barometer but it was an average day.
I remember being at Englishtown Raceway Park only open to a couple magazines for a shoot in 2008 for the about to be released C6 ZR1 and there was a GTR there he was running mid 11s at idk what mph. But it was par for the course nothing to be shocked by.
I was there to test the (new and about to be released) 20 inch drag radial from Nitto. This was for Super Chevy.
on a side note the ZR1 was running 11.0s on stock rubber stock psi @ 130 to 134 all day. Temp was about 60f. I don't recall the barometer but it was an average day.
06-04-2018, 12:44 PM
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I know most people on this forum love the vettes first but I also know many who have owned other nice cars and can give an honest opinion after writing a check with their own money. So if my 2018 2lz z06 auto were to go head to head with a stock 2018 Nissan GT-R which car will have its pros and cons where? Comfort? Performance? Daily driver reliability and gas mileage? Id like to hear the good, bad and ugly without any bias if possible.
A bone-stock GT-R, at least for me, was not a terribly exciting car. It's an excellent daily driver; comfy, quiet, awd, good stereo, etc, but except for the acceleration, which is rapid, it doesn't really get the blood flowing. This is fixed with some simple mods. I recently went the FBO (full bolt-on) route with AMS downpipes/mp, 3" intakes, exhaust, injectors, tune, etc, and besides it being much faster, the car now has real character to it. The noise is exciting with burbles, turbo sounds, BOV sounds, lots of fun. And still quiet at cruise, reliable and a perfect daily.
A bone-stock C7Z will be more exciting. It's loud in track mode from the factory, lights the tires up at 50mph, looks more aggressive, sits low like a sports car, and is just overall a better "fun" car than a GT-R.
As for gas mileage, both are not great. GT-R is maybe 1-2mpg better. I have averaged 17 in the Vette and 19 in the GT-R. And my Vette is a 7spd, so the auto will likely be worse than that.
Can't comment on reliability with the Vette, but the GT-R has been flawless. 27K miles, just oil changes. GT-R does go through brakes quicker due to the weight. GT-R also needs a trans/diff flush every 36K miles which costs $2,000 at a dealer. And the OEM GT-R Dunlop tires only last about 12K miles. Replace those with MPSS when they are done and you'll be fine though. Both cars feel solid, and while the C7 interior is very nice and the best Vette yet, I think the GT-R feels just slightly like it is built better. But the build quality is close.
Comfort is pretty close between the cars. GT-R DCT is much smoother post-2015, but still won't be quite as smooth in stop and go as the A8. However, if you like to shift manually, the DCT is fantasticly responsive in R-mode and the A8 is not even worth using the cheap plastic paddles it's so bad. But the A8 is fine if left to shift itself.
Performance is close. The Vette handles slightly better, stops better and would be better around a road course. The GT-R is faster from 0-60 due to the AWD. The GT-R can also do a 3-second 0-60 on a 20 degree day on winter tires or in the rain, so it is ALWAYS usable, which is something I have really grown to love about it. Where-as the Z06 is only a weapon when the road conditions are perfect. My GT-R made 574whp/588tq with FBO and my Z06 makes 580rwhp/568tw with just an Xpipe, BMS filter and Mamo TB. Haven't run them side-by-side yet, but I expect a very close race.
Both cars get lots of attention. I'd say my black Z07 package Z06 gets more comments and attention though. But I get kids pulling out cell phones when I'm in both. However, I feel more comfortable parking the GT-R. 95% of the population just thinks it's a gray, sporty $40,000 Nissan, so if I leave it someplace I'm not worried about anyone messing with it. Only car enthusiasts know what it is, and they will respect the car. The Vette likely is observed as more-flashy by the majority of regular folks.
Which one to buy? If you can, drive them both, but the GT-R may leave you cold after just a short drive. I honestly took a good year of GT-R ownership, plus some mods, before I completely feel in love with it, now I love it as much as my Vette just due to it's breadth of ability. If you have another car like an SUV and this will be mostly for fun driving, the Z06 is the more fun "second car". As your only car to drive every day, the GT-R is probably the better choice.
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So I've had my 2015 GT-R for 2 years and 27K miles as my all-year daily. I've also owned three C5 Vettes and just got my 2015 Z06 in March. I've put 2,000 miles on my Z06 since I got it and generally use my quick cars as much as possible.
A bone-stock GT-R, at least for me, was not a terribly exciting car. It's an excellent daily driver; comfy, quiet, awd, good stereo, etc, but except for the acceleration, which is rapid, it doesn't really get the blood flowing. This is fixed with some simple mods. I recently went the FBO (full bolt-on) route with AMS downpipes/mp, 3" intakes, exhaust, injectors, tune, etc, and besides it being much faster, the car now has real character to it. The noise is exciting with burbles, turbo sounds, BOV sounds, lots of fun. And still quiet at cruise, reliable and a perfect daily.
A bone-stock C7Z will be more exciting. It's loud in track mode from the factory, lights the tires up at 50mph, looks more aggressive, sits low like a sports car, and is just overall a better "fun" car than a GT-R.
As for gas mileage, both are not great. GT-R is maybe 1-2mpg better. I have averaged 17 in the Vette and 19 in the GT-R. And my Vette is a 7spd, so the auto will likely be worse than that.
Can't comment on reliability with the Vette, but the GT-R has been flawless. 27K miles, just oil changes. GT-R does go through brakes quicker due to the weight. GT-R also needs a trans/diff flush every 36K miles which costs $2,000 at a dealer. And the OEM GT-R Dunlop tires only last about 12K miles. Replace those with MPSS when they are done and you'll be fine though. Both cars feel solid, and while the C7 interior is very nice and the best Vette yet, I think the GT-R feels just slightly like it is built better. But the build quality is close.
Comfort is pretty close between the cars. GT-R DCT is much smoother post-2015, but still won't be quite as smooth in stop and go as the A8. However, if you like to shift manually, the DCT is fantasticly responsive in R-mode and the A8 is not even worth using the cheap plastic paddles it's so bad. But the A8 is fine if left to shift itself.
Performance is close. The Vette handles slightly better, stops better and would be better around a road course. The GT-R is faster from 0-60 due to the AWD. The GT-R can also do a 3-second 0-60 on a 20 degree day on winter tires or in the rain, so it is ALWAYS usable, which is something I have really grown to love about it. Where-as the Z06 is only a weapon when the road conditions are perfect. My GT-R made 574whp/588tq with FBO and my Z06 makes 580rwhp/568tw with just an Xpipe, BMS filter and Mamo TB. Haven't run them side-by-side yet, but I expect a very close race.
Both cars get lots of attention. I'd say my black Z07 package Z06 gets more comments and attention though. But I get kids pulling out cell phones when I'm in both. However, I feel more comfortable parking the GT-R. 95% of the population just thinks it's a gray, sporty $40,000 Nissan, so if I leave it someplace I'm not worried about anyone messing with it. Only car enthusiasts know what it is, and they will respect the car. The Vette likely is observed as more-flashy by the majority of regular folks.
Which one to buy? If you can, drive them both, but the GT-R may leave you cold after just a short drive. I honestly took a good year of GT-R ownership, plus some mods, before I completely feel in love with it, now I love it as much as my Vette just due to it's breadth of ability. If you have another car like an SUV and this will be mostly for fun driving, the Z06 is the more fun "second car". As your only car to drive every day, the GT-R is probably the better choice.
A bone-stock GT-R, at least for me, was not a terribly exciting car. It's an excellent daily driver; comfy, quiet, awd, good stereo, etc, but except for the acceleration, which is rapid, it doesn't really get the blood flowing. This is fixed with some simple mods. I recently went the FBO (full bolt-on) route with AMS downpipes/mp, 3" intakes, exhaust, injectors, tune, etc, and besides it being much faster, the car now has real character to it. The noise is exciting with burbles, turbo sounds, BOV sounds, lots of fun. And still quiet at cruise, reliable and a perfect daily.
A bone-stock C7Z will be more exciting. It's loud in track mode from the factory, lights the tires up at 50mph, looks more aggressive, sits low like a sports car, and is just overall a better "fun" car than a GT-R.
As for gas mileage, both are not great. GT-R is maybe 1-2mpg better. I have averaged 17 in the Vette and 19 in the GT-R. And my Vette is a 7spd, so the auto will likely be worse than that.
Can't comment on reliability with the Vette, but the GT-R has been flawless. 27K miles, just oil changes. GT-R does go through brakes quicker due to the weight. GT-R also needs a trans/diff flush every 36K miles which costs $2,000 at a dealer. And the OEM GT-R Dunlop tires only last about 12K miles. Replace those with MPSS when they are done and you'll be fine though. Both cars feel solid, and while the C7 interior is very nice and the best Vette yet, I think the GT-R feels just slightly like it is built better. But the build quality is close.
Comfort is pretty close between the cars. GT-R DCT is much smoother post-2015, but still won't be quite as smooth in stop and go as the A8. However, if you like to shift manually, the DCT is fantasticly responsive in R-mode and the A8 is not even worth using the cheap plastic paddles it's so bad. But the A8 is fine if left to shift itself.
Performance is close. The Vette handles slightly better, stops better and would be better around a road course. The GT-R is faster from 0-60 due to the AWD. The GT-R can also do a 3-second 0-60 on a 20 degree day on winter tires or in the rain, so it is ALWAYS usable, which is something I have really grown to love about it. Where-as the Z06 is only a weapon when the road conditions are perfect. My GT-R made 574whp/588tq with FBO and my Z06 makes 580rwhp/568tw with just an Xpipe, BMS filter and Mamo TB. Haven't run them side-by-side yet, but I expect a very close race.
Both cars get lots of attention. I'd say my black Z07 package Z06 gets more comments and attention though. But I get kids pulling out cell phones when I'm in both. However, I feel more comfortable parking the GT-R. 95% of the population just thinks it's a gray, sporty $40,000 Nissan, so if I leave it someplace I'm not worried about anyone messing with it. Only car enthusiasts know what it is, and they will respect the car. The Vette likely is observed as more-flashy by the majority of regular folks.
Which one to buy? If you can, drive them both, but the GT-R may leave you cold after just a short drive. I honestly took a good year of GT-R ownership, plus some mods, before I completely feel in love with it, now I love it as much as my Vette just due to it's breadth of ability. If you have another car like an SUV and this will be mostly for fun driving, the Z06 is the more fun "second car". As your only car to drive every day, the GT-R is probably the better choice.