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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by marc0779
1 can of professional to a full tank
Too much unless you are shooting for 102 octane. One can of Professional will make 98 octane for 100 gallons of 93 octane.
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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I add about half a can of professional per tank. not really worried about color of exhaust, its just the MMT
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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Hey Gang,

Had a customer pass this thread along and it seems there is a lot of discussion around some of our products, and some good questions to go along. I am one of the developing engineers over here at BOOSTane, and while I won't be able to answer any sales questions as they keep me chained up in the lab in back, I would be happy to answer any technical questions that you all may have.

A few things that I have noticed so far:
- Why only raise the octane from 91 to 95/96? That isn't much over 93 octane and why would that make a difference on a stock tune?
Well, this is a new feature that has come to light with later model vehicles, such as the newer Corvettes. Basically the knock sensing capabilities that these performance engines and their ECU's implement to protect themselves from poor fuel by pulling timing, actually have the ancillary benefit of adding a few degrees of spark advance when higher octane (even over 93) is present. We have seen as much as 5% in NA vehicles and 10% in FI vehicles (without refreshing)

- Discoloration
This question is the bane of my existence, but very understandable. The reality is that a lot of octane boosters in the past not only cause discoloration with various active ingredients (like MMT), but they also caused fouling. For anyone who has ever had this happen to them in the past, with some of these old technologies, its hard to forget. I remember racing with my father, and discovering this issue, and being quite upset how one aspect could have such a devastating affect.

This fact alone is really want set the BOOSTane founders on their path of discovery in solving this problem. It comes down to varying densities of active ingredients. Many of the chemicals used that truly raise octane are much heavier than the gasoline or even the medium that they are blended with in the bottle. Then you have a coagulating affect of these special ingredients at the bottoms of the bottle and gas tank. Once coagulated there is no real way to "shake" it back into solution. Therefore, this clumped up material is pulled through the fuel system, causing fouling and clogging.

Discoloration isn't the issue. Coagulation is. This is where BOOSTane flourishes. We were able to develop a chelated carrier that maintains these varying densitied active ingredients in solution. Allowing for an even delivery throughout the life cycle of the tank of gas. Feel free to check out a visual here of both side by side test against old technology and a whiteboard description.



Feel free to fire any other questions my way! Looking forward to the discussion (debate)...
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 07:50 PM
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^^^ Would the use of Boostane possibly void powertrain warranty?

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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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Would the use of Boostane possibly void powertrain warranty?
It is hard to say. We have never had the issue been posed to us in the past, and with so many different stipulations, I think it would be difficult to say definitively at what octane level would the OEM get pissed off about.

If you plan to do anything outside of its original design, you are probably flirting with a warranty issue, but that isn't any fun. So to that point, its up to you and your warranty review.
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I agree with Bill's earlier post that additional octane is a waste of money without a tune. I run my 2015 Z06 with minor mods at Watkins Glen. I've tried 100 oct. race fuel without a tune and felt and saw nothing with respect to speed and lap times. Last year i had GM complete the 100 octane factory tune. Now compared to 93 pump gas when using 100 track race fuel the difference is amazing. The pull of the car and subsequent top speed all increases. I have also used Torco and experienced the same performance increases. Interesting the exhaust tips look similar whether Torco or race fuel.

TUNE.... tune!!!!
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24
I agree with Bill's earlier post that additional octane is a waste of money without a tune. I run my 2015 Z06 with minor mods at Watkins Glen. I've tried 100 oct. race fuel without a tune and felt and saw nothing with respect to speed and lap times. Last year i had GM complete the 100 octane factory tune. Now compared to 93 pump gas when using 100 track race fuel the difference is amazing. The pull of the car and subsequent top speed all increases. I have also used Torco and experienced the same performance increases. Interesting the exhaust tips look similar whether Torco or race fuel.

TUNE.... tune!!!!
Hey, dont get me wrong. There is no substitution for higher octane coupled with a stronger tune. It is the best way to unlock performance of both the engine and fuel.

However, in our own experimentation, on a dyno where the smallest of deviation can be measured without a driver variability, we have seen ECU's account for higher octane with their built in knock sensing and add in a few degrees of timing. Now there is a limit to how much this will add based on the stock tables, but some vehicles do it. BMW is a perfect example of a manufacturer that will take advantage of higher octane to about 97/98 octane. Seen here.

https://boostane.com/dyno-test-resul...-turbocharged/
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24
I agree with Bill's earlier post that additional octane is a waste of money without a tune. I run my 2015 Z06 with minor mods at Watkins Glen. I've tried 100 oct. race fuel without a tune and felt and saw nothing with respect to speed and lap times. Last year i had GM complete the 100 octane factory tune. Now compared to 93 pump gas when using 100 track race fuel the difference is amazing. The pull of the car and subsequent top speed all increases. I have also used Torco and experienced the same performance increases. Interesting the exhaust tips look similar whether Torco or race fuel.

TUNE.... tune!!!!
It all depends on your goal. If your goal is to use 98+ octane, then a tune is required for any additional power. If your goal is prevent K.R. and maximize the stock tune by staying in the high octane timing table, then use enough octane booster needed to prevent K.R. and HP loss, especially in states with only 91 octane. Nothing more frustrating when you can feel the ECM pull timing on a WOT pull.

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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTane
Hey, dont get me wrong. There is no substitution for higher octane coupled with a stronger tune. It is the best way to unlock performance of both the engine and fuel.

However, in our own experimentation, on a dyno where the smallest of deviation can be measured without a driver variability, we have seen ECU's account for higher octane with their built in knock sensing and add in a few degrees of timing. Now there is a limit to how much this will add based on the stock tables, but some vehicles do it. BMW is a perfect example of a manufacturer that will take advantage of higher octane to about 97/98 octane. Seen here.

https://boostane.com/dyno-test-resul...-turbocharged/
Does the chelated carrier require an additional fuel filter or alter the fuel filter replacement frequency ?


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Originally Posted by E Z06
Does the chelated carrier require an additional fuel filter or alter the fuel filter replacement frequency ?
No it does not. If anything it is going to extend the life of the fuel filter (in comparison to other fuel additives). By having the carrier, we are able to keep all active ingredients suspends in solution indefinitely, therefore increasing and maintaining fuel delivery efficiency and preventing large coagulated clumps from being pulled through or blocking the filter (much like the competition).
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTane
No it does not. If anything it is going to extend the life of the fuel filter (in comparison to other fuel additives). By having the carrier, we are able to keep all active ingredients suspends in solution indefinitely, therefore increasing and maintaining fuel delivery efficiency and preventing large coagulated clumps from being pulled through or blocking the filter (much like the competition).
Thanks for the quick reply also the money math is a no brainer to achieve additional octane vs mixing race gas with pump gas.
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 09:38 AM
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They also send you specials from time to time if they have your email on file. I just got a free shipping order.
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I just wanted to say thank you for the responses and transparency from the Boostane rep. I'm a user and big fan of your product. My car runs amazing with your Boostane Professional when I go to the track.
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 03:14 PM
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What is Lamba1 value off approx 17.5 gal of 93 octane E10 mixed with one quart of Boostane Professional ?
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Originally Posted by MacRoadie
By my calculations, I had arrived at 4 oz per tankful to get from 91 to 95 on Professional. Guess I was pretty darned close., Good to know. 1/8 of a can versus 1/2 of a can is a no-brainer.

Having said all that, did he say half a can, or 8 oz? Boostane comes in 32 oz cans, so half a can would be 16 oz. .

At 5 oz per tank, you'll get 6.4 tankfuls on Professional.
My calculations are wrong because the Premium is 16 oz. can and Professional is a 32 oz. can so basically a half can of professional will yield a higher octane, than a 1/2 can of Premium.
I.e.. 91 octane with 1/2 can Premium yields about 94-95 octane and 1/2 can Professional yields 100 octane. Mine is mainly street, so I went with the Premium just to boost to 94-95.
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Originally Posted by SLEEKVET
My calculations are wrong because the Premium is 16 oz. can and Professional is a 32 oz. can so basically a half can of professional will yield a higher octane, than a 1/2 can of Premium.
I.e.. 91 octane with 1/2 can Premium yields about 94-95 octane and 1/2 can Professional yields 100 octane. Mine is mainly street, so I went with the Premium just to boost to 94-95.
Ok good. So 100 octane for both my cars currently lol. Not to shabby.
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What about Klotz? No residue fowling up plugs
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Originally Posted by TopSpeedNeed
Using the "Boostane" app, for 18 gals of fuel @ 93 octane, to get to 105 octane, it says I need 2 quarts of boostane, or 64 oz. It does not mention anything about using Boostane "Premium" or "Professional" Hopefully you can clear this up..
Use the mixing chart and assuming a 32 ounce can. It has the three grades at the top. 3.8 gallons requires one can or 32 ounces so for 18 gallons of 93 to become 105 octane you need 151.6 ounces. (4.7 cans)

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Originally Posted by 8850
Use the mixing chart and assuming a 32 ounce can. It has the three grades at the top. 3.8 gallons requires one can or 32 ounces so for 18 gallons of 93 to become 105 octane you need 151.6 ounces. (4.7 cans)
That's crazy. Cant be correct. Race fuel would be allot cheaper..
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Originally Posted by TopSpeedNeed
That's crazy. Cant be correct. Race fuel would be allot cheaper..
It's not correct lol.

Look at the 7th row.

87, 91, 93 starting octane

94, 98, 100 desired octane

Professional # gallons treated 34.7

# of can = 1

Using that formula which is what i used, 34.7 is roughly 2 FULL tank capacity in our cars, give or take for this argument.

Which means if i started with 93, i'll have 100 octane if i used 2 BOTTLES of professional to treat = 2 full tank capacities in our cars

Or for me to start with 93, and end with 100 octane, all i need is HALF bottle of professional 32oz (16oz putting in), to get ONE FULL tank of 100 octane in our cars.

16oz profession to a full tank in our cars filled with 93, nets 100 octane for the entire tank.


lol right????

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