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Old 11-02-2018, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Watched the video and he never races an M7 that was weak all A8 hype. Plus all his shifts were like 6100-6200.
But the stock car is dead at that point. Nothing like my car!
We know, your car is the bestest.

Old 11-02-2018, 06:34 AM
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Very well produced video.
Old 11-02-2018, 07:43 AM
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You also have to factor in the driver, the M7 driver has to nail it perfectly every time to win.

The A8 result is highly repeatable, foot to the floor, point the car straight.
Old 11-02-2018, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by C7X46
You also have to factor in the driver, the M7 driver has to nail it perfectly every time to win.

The A8 result is highly repeatable, foot to the floor, point the car straight.
from a 60-130 run, It could be done in 1 gear. Our cars have a lot of low end torque to start 60 in 3rd. Not sure how that would affect the run. But when I ran my friends hellcat I started in 3rd because I didnt want to possibly mess up the 2-3 shift.

that's the beauty of the longer gears. Less shifting. More acceleration.
Old 11-02-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by xkilo16x
Verified by VBOX, the A8 is a tenth of a second faster from 60-130 than the M7 Z06.

My belief is that the M7 will pull on the A8 after 130MPH, but the automatic is brutally fast down low.

I'm not sure why you linked that quasi film noir. Just promoting your buddy's film school project or what? As most people here have mentioned, the auto and manual both have 2 shifts between 60 and 130, so yeah, the auto is gonna be faster. I don't see how that video confirmed anything except that I'm a sucker who will waste 4 and a half minutes of my life watching a ridiculous video as long as it has a Z06 in it. Sorry, not trying to be a hater, just a little thunderstruck that I watched that whole thing. I finished and thought "... what just happened??"
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
... what just happened??"
You've been..You've been..You've been.. THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!!



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Old 11-02-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GTRSOLO
You've been..You've been..You've been.. THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!!

Haha. As soon as I submitted it, I figured an AC/DC reference was coming.
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
I'm not sure why you linked that quasi film noir. Just promoting your buddy's film school project or what? As most people here have mentioned, the auto and manual both have 2 shifts between 60 and 130, so yeah, the auto is gonna be faster. I don't see how that video confirmed anything except that I'm a sucker who will waste 4 and a half minutes of my life watching a ridiculous video as long as it has a Z06 in it. Sorry, not trying to be a hater, just a little thunderstruck that I watched that whole thing. I finished and thought "... what just happened??"
I linked it because (1) it's relevant to the topic and (2) I figure I try and reboot my YouTube channel after I recently retired and no better place to start then sharing on car forums that I'm always on.

I appreciate the comments, but it's just me and wife shooting these little videos in our spare time on the weekends. I know my acting is a bit stiff, I spent my entire career behind the camera, not in front of it so I'll try and improve on that aspect as I continue.

In regards to the topic, I figure since I owned both cars, I can make an objective statement with a common performance metric.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by xkilo16x
I linked it because (1) it's relevant to the topic and (2) I figure I try and reboot my YouTube channel after I recently retired and no better place to start then sharing on car forums that I'm always on.

I appreciate the comments, but it's just me and wife shooting these little videos in our spare time on the weekends. I know my acting is a bit stiff, I spent my entire career behind the camera, not in front of it so I'll try and improve on that aspect as I continue.

In regards to the topic, I figure since I owned both cars, I can make an objective statement with a common performance metric.
Oh I wasn't knocking your acting. It's a well made video, I was just like "why is this so film noir about comparing auto vs manual trans 60-130??". That's all. I'm just impatient and when I'm watching a video for "fact finding" or whatever you want to call it, I don't want to be entertained, I just want to get to the info as fast as possible.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:31 AM
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and now queue the memes for...


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Old 11-02-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GTRSOLO
You've been..You've been..You've been.. THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!!

The new best video in the thread...
Old 11-02-2018, 11:59 AM
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A8 is faster from any speed. It's the gearing. The M7 is at a disadvantage. Proven nunerous times in real world and on here. I've run a bolton M7 with very good driver from 70ish and my A8 pulls the car with just an AFE. Modern autos are amazing. Even slushboxes.

When my car shifts it doesnt miss a beat. When his car shifts he loses a fender plus each time. And that's being PERFECT every time. Good luck with that.

if the M7 had tighter ratios maybe it's a moot point? It doesn't....so it isn't...

and for anyone claiming the M7 has more wheel hp/tq? True. But torque multiplication and shift extension negates that handily. That's why the fastest cars in the world are automatics (now and have been for a long time).
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
Haha. As soon as I submitted it, I figured an AC/DC reference was coming.

Slow work day. This is an interesting thread. Good video BTW.

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It has been a while since a back and forth Manual VS Automatic argument actually kept me engaged. Awesome Post and awesome responses.
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But.......lets not forget the human factor plays in every race....automatic or manual.
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Originally Posted by jabeasley1
But.......lets not forget the human factor plays in every race....automatic or manual.
I guess it depends on what race you're talking about. at the strip (especially with slicks or even drag radials), the auto basically takes the human factor completely out of it.
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
I guess it depends on what race you're talking about. at the strip (especially with slicks or even drag radials), the auto basically takes the human factor completely out of it.
this..

if I wanted a 1/4 mile car I would have gotten a fast auto, not a c7z but more like a gtr.

but I like street fun, highway pulls, off ramp pulls and nothing beats the long gears of the m7. And if I ever wanted to get on a course, m7 also better.

the a8 cant handle the course as well. Downshifts are slow and then the car will eventually overheat lol

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Old 11-02-2018, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
I guess it depends on what race you're talking about. at the strip (especially with slicks or even drag radials), the auto basically takes the human factor completely out of it.
Then why do A8 strip times differ so much between similar cars?
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temperature? too many back to back runs? tires? the strip prepping? slightly different mods? humidity? barometric pressure? altitude?
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
temperature? too many back to back runs? tires? the strip prepping? slightly different mods? humidity? barometric pressure? altitude?
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