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Old 12-12-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
All that sounds pretty reasonable. I actually didn't know the 13/14 Shelby had a CF driveshaft. That's pretty cool. I'm curious as to why you have to slip your clutch to back into your garage, but I won't derail the thread with that. Pick up a 17/18 A8 and call it a day!
Todd,

Due to the angle of my garage and how it is situated, the clutch requires a minimal amount of slip to slowly navigate the car (back and forth) into the garage. I have a three car garage with the third single car placed at an odd angle for parking.
Prior to the Shelby I owned a 900hp built mustang with a stage 3 Spec clutch that was very off/on. I did majority of the work on the car myself with the exception of the lower end motor build. Each time I would attempt to back the car into the garage, I could smell the clutch getting hot and feel the pedal effort changing. Due to the on/off nature of the clutch and the chatter when attempting to minimally slip, backing up would cause premature wear and tear on the clutch assembly and made it far too difficult just to back up. So, long story kinda short, I started pulling the car in the two car garage next to my wife's car until our son was born and I purchased the 14 Shelby.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
OP the a8 in the z is NOT THE SAME as the 8 speed in the hellcat.

the zf trans in the hellcat is far superior. If you get a c7z get a manual in my opinion. Especially if it's a weekend toy. You wont get overheating issues and since it's a weekend toy you dont have to worry about shifting all the time. The manual in the z is very smooth and easy to learn.

Either way the gt500 is a monster. I'm actually in the market for a 18 gt but I want the 10 speed auto as it's amazing. Its gonna be my daily.
I did not know it was not the same transmission. Thank you for that information.
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Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.



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Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.


Very impressive and I am not opposed to purchasing a 2019 in the spring/summer.
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Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.


Dude what the hell were you racing that ran an 8.8?????
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Default It was a Test & Tune session.

Originally Posted by Toddiesel
Dude what the hell were you racing that ran an 8.8?????
Don't remember, it disappeared before my eyes!

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Originally Posted by C7/Z06 Man
Don't remember, it disappeared before my eyes!
Hahaha. Touche, salesman. Anyway, very impressive time on factory tires. Just shows what the A8 can do. I couldn't pull a 1.6 in my M7 to save my life. My best time at the track was a 12.1 with a 2.3 60ft. Mostly I was running 12.3s with a 2.6 60ft. That A8 is just annoyingly quick (annoying from someone who thinks manuals should be faster)
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Default This is the track & lane that the above time slip is from.

Originally Posted by Svtracer14
Very impressive and I am not opposed to purchasing a 2019 in the spring/summer.
If you do purchase a 19 I would and did follow GM's breakin recommendations. I also followed their breakin for my first Corvette. A 2010 C6 'Darth Vader' Black Grand Sport which I think still holds the C6 'Stock' GS 1/4 mile record 8 years later. It's a beautiful thing.



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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
Well if he gets a 2017+, he shouldn't have overheating issues either way, right?
Doesn't matter what year he gets, getting an auto 2015-2019 will overheat.

He has a better chance of not overheating, at all, if he went manual.
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Not even close. I've owned 2 GT500's. The last one having 700 rwhp. It's seriously not even close.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
Doesn't matter what year he gets, getting an auto 2015-2019 will overheat.

He has a better chance of not overheating, at all, if he went manual.
i don’t think the op wants a manual. He is tired of shifting his rustang. And he just wants to do half mile events. The automatic is probably the ticket for him
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Originally Posted by Crushinator
Not even close. I've owned 2 GT500's. The last one having 700 rwhp. It's seriously not even close.
What isn't even close? Are you saying the experience is different, the mustang is better than the Vette, the Vette is better than the Stang, what?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo


i don’t think the op wants a manual. He is tired of shifting his rustang. And he just wants to do half mile events. The automatic is probably the ticket for him
Oh, i missed that part of the half mile.

But i've driven manual mustangs before, they have REALLY stiff clutches. Even my friends stock clutch terminator. It was like stepping on a rock. So i kinda get why the OP would want an auto for the next toy. But the clutches in our cars are so light and easy to use.

Although i still think the fun factor should outweigh him doing half mile events. I mean how many events can you really do per year? 2-3? Maybe 5? You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
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Originally Posted by Crushinator
Not even close. I've owned 2 GT500's. The last one having 700 rwhp. It's seriously not even close.
Yeah, I'd like to know what this means as well. The Mustang driveline is one tough mother to hook up with lots of horsepower. It's similar to the Hellcats having trouble getting all that HP to the ground, from what I've seen. Maybe Crushinator can expand on his.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
Doesn't matter what year he gets, getting an auto 2015-2019 will overheat.

He has a better chance of not overheating, at all, if he went manual.
It will only overheat on 90+degree days on a road course if driven by a skilled driver on a good track. Otherwise, no worries.
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As far as the GT 500's I can't get one to race me at the track. They all say that they would never hear the end of it losing to a Corvette. They look like nice cars, but not many with skilled drivers ever show up. The 2-3 gear shift seems to be the biggest problem.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo

While we generally like our z06 but there are caveats to that liking. — it’s technology is over the top silly, it has a silly looking dashboard with too many gimmicky doo dads —The e-diff makes for quirky and unpredictable handling.


Kinda ironic since your moniker basically means Mr. Gimmicky Doo Dads...

To OP, I would upgrade from a Mustang GT500 to a Z06 in a heartbeat. GT500 may have a lot of hp, but it is the very definition of not being able to put the power down.

If you want to stay in the Ford family, get a GT350 for an upgraded experience, but knowing that the FPC engine will eventually vibrate the car to pieces over time.

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Old 12-12-2018, 08:19 PM
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I went from a 2013 GT500 with 725rwhp to my 2018 Z07. The Z is nicer in all respects.
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
Oh, You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
I have nothing against manuals and if you want one by all means do it; Hell when I first started 'bracket racing' which I did for many years it was with a 4 speed manual trans that I rowed for years in the "Bracket Wars". I actually 'slowed' down in the 1/4 when I first switched from the stick to a builted auto with a high stall converter.

'You' could always use the A8 paddles to get that in control feeling but it's not the fastest way down the quarter for me. The A8's advantage of "KICKING A$$" are not limited to a few times a year but 'anytime' you go for a drive i.e. someone may want to try you from a light, etc. and you may be in a bad mood and want to vent your frustration.

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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
Although i still think the fun factor should outweigh him doing half mile events. I mean how many events can you really do per year? 2-3? Maybe 5? You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
Maybe the fun factor of a manual is higher, for you. Some of us have been driving manuals for so long that the fascination has worn off, and we're ready to learn something new.



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