GT500 vs C7 Z06
#21
All that sounds pretty reasonable. I actually didn't know the 13/14 Shelby had a CF driveshaft. That's pretty cool. I'm curious as to why you have to slip your clutch to back into your garage, but I won't derail the thread with that. Pick up a 17/18 A8 and call it a day!
Due to the angle of my garage and how it is situated, the clutch requires a minimal amount of slip to slowly navigate the car (back and forth) into the garage. I have a three car garage with the third single car placed at an odd angle for parking.
Prior to the Shelby I owned a 900hp built mustang with a stage 3 Spec clutch that was very off/on. I did majority of the work on the car myself with the exception of the lower end motor build. Each time I would attempt to back the car into the garage, I could smell the clutch getting hot and feel the pedal effort changing. Due to the on/off nature of the clutch and the chatter when attempting to minimally slip, backing up would cause premature wear and tear on the clutch assembly and made it far too difficult just to back up. So, long story kinda short, I started pulling the car in the two car garage next to my wife's car until our son was born and I purchased the 14 Shelby.
#22
OP the a8 in the z is NOT THE SAME as the 8 speed in the hellcat.
the zf trans in the hellcat is far superior. If you get a c7z get a manual in my opinion. Especially if it's a weekend toy. You wont get overheating issues and since it's a weekend toy you dont have to worry about shifting all the time. The manual in the z is very smooth and easy to learn.
Either way the gt500 is a monster. I'm actually in the market for a 18 gt but I want the 10 speed auto as it's amazing. Its gonna be my daily.
the zf trans in the hellcat is far superior. If you get a c7z get a manual in my opinion. Especially if it's a weekend toy. You wont get overheating issues and since it's a weekend toy you dont have to worry about shifting all the time. The manual in the z is very smooth and easy to learn.
Either way the gt500 is a monster. I'm actually in the market for a 18 gt but I want the 10 speed auto as it's amazing. Its gonna be my daily.
#23
Safety Car
Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 12-12-2018 at 01:36 PM.
#24
Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.
#25
Drifting
Get a new 19. 'All' 19 Corvettes from what I have read have stronger redesigned spider gears which from what I know is usually the first thing that breaks; even on stockers if serious wheel hop happens. Below is what an A8 is capable of with just an aftermarket CAI & sticky tires. PS: I have gone 1.53 60 ft. on the OEM tires in the past with a lower ET, same track in the same lane.
#26
Safety Car
#27
Drifting
Hahaha. Touche, salesman. Anyway, very impressive time on factory tires. Just shows what the A8 can do. I couldn't pull a 1.6 in my M7 to save my life. My best time at the track was a 12.1 with a 2.3 60ft. Mostly I was running 12.3s with a 2.6 60ft. That A8 is just annoyingly quick (annoying from someone who thinks manuals should be faster)
#28
Safety Car
This is the track & lane that the above time slip is from.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 12-12-2018 at 03:58 PM.
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#31
Le Mans Master
i don’t think the op wants a manual. He is tired of shifting his rustang. And he just wants to do half mile events. The automatic is probably the ticket for him
#33
But i've driven manual mustangs before, they have REALLY stiff clutches. Even my friends stock clutch terminator. It was like stepping on a rock. So i kinda get why the OP would want an auto for the next toy. But the clutches in our cars are so light and easy to use.
Although i still think the fun factor should outweigh him doing half mile events. I mean how many events can you really do per year? 2-3? Maybe 5? You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
#34
Yeah, I'd like to know what this means as well. The Mustang driveline is one tough mother to hook up with lots of horsepower. It's similar to the Hellcats having trouble getting all that HP to the ground, from what I've seen. Maybe Crushinator can expand on his.
#35
Race Director
It will only overheat on 90+degree days on a road course if driven by a skilled driver on a good track. Otherwise, no worries.
#36
Race Director
As far as the GT 500's I can't get one to race me at the track. They all say that they would never hear the end of it losing to a Corvette. They look like nice cars, but not many with skilled drivers ever show up. The 2-3 gear shift seems to be the biggest problem.
#37
Drifting
To OP, I would upgrade from a Mustang GT500 to a Z06 in a heartbeat. GT500 may have a lot of hp, but it is the very definition of not being able to put the power down.
If you want to stay in the Ford family, get a GT350 for an upgraded experience, but knowing that the FPC engine will eventually vibrate the car to pieces over time.
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Last edited by Parcival; 12-12-2018 at 08:22 PM.
#38
I went from a 2013 GT500 with 725rwhp to my 2018 Z07. The Z is nicer in all respects.
#39
Safety Car
$.02
'You' could always use the A8 paddles to get that in control feeling but it's not the fastest way down the quarter for me. The A8's advantage of "KICKING A$$" are not limited to a few times a year but 'anytime' you go for a drive i.e. someone may want to try you from a light, etc. and you may be in a bad mood and want to vent your frustration.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 12-12-2018 at 09:30 PM.
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