GT500 vs C7 Z06
#41
Le Mans Master
Kinda ironic since your moniker basically means Mr. Gimmicky Doo Dads...
To OP, I would upgrade from a Mustang GT500 to a Z06 in a heartbeat. GT500 may have a lot of hp, but it is the very definition of not being able to put the power down.
If you want to stay in the Ford family, get a GT350 for an upgraded experience, but knowing that the FPC engine will eventually vibrate the car to pieces over time.
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To OP, I would upgrade from a Mustang GT500 to a Z06 in a heartbeat. GT500 may have a lot of hp, but it is the very definition of not being able to put the power down.
If you want to stay in the Ford family, get a GT350 for an upgraded experience, but knowing that the FPC engine will eventually vibrate the car to pieces over time.
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#42
Safety Car
To the OP: Keep your Shelby if you like tire smoke and going slow. This vid is of a 720 rwhp Shelby Super Snake Vs. my C6 Z. My C7 Z is MUCH FASTER than my C6 Z was. This roll race was at 50 mph because that was as slow as he could go without massive wheel spin.
#43
Burning Brakes
I looked long hard look at the 2018 Mustang GT auto trans before buying my 2016 Z07. Watching these cars at the 1/4 mile in Bowling green and talking to the owners last spring confirmed the car was very impressive for the money spent. Like the C7 Z06 auto the Gt with the 10 speed auto trans was faster and more consistent than the stick equivalent. It was the great price I got on a low miles Z07 that kept me in a newer Corvette. If Ford had put that great 10 speed trans in the GT-350 it may have been another story.
#44
Drifting
To the OP: Keep your Shelby if you like tire smoke and going slow. This vid is of a 720 rwhp Shelby Super Snake Vs. my C6 Z. My C7 Z is MUCH FASTER than my C6 Z was. This roll race was at 50 mph because that was as slow as he could go without massive wheel spin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDq6ZfTuUYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDq6ZfTuUYo
Last edited by Toddiesel; 12-16-2018 at 07:58 AM.
#45
I have nothing against manuals and if you want one by all means do it; Hell when I first started 'bracket racing' which I did for many years it was with a 4 speed manual trans that I rowed for years in the "Bracket Wars". I actually 'slowed' down in the 1/4 when I first switched from the stick to a builted auto with a high stall converter.
'You' could always use the A8 paddles to get that in control feeling but it's not the fastest way down the quarter for me. The A8's advantage of "KICKING A$$" are not limited to a few times a year but 'anytime' you go for a drive i.e. someone may want to try you from a light, etc. and you may be in a bad mood and want to vent your frustration.
'You' could always use the A8 paddles to get that in control feeling but it's not the fastest way down the quarter for me. The A8's advantage of "KICKING A$$" are not limited to a few times a year but 'anytime' you go for a drive i.e. someone may want to try you from a light, etc. and you may be in a bad mood and want to vent your frustration.
trust me I love auto, if it's a proper auto. The a8 is absolutely garbage compared to other cars within its price range. Even the zl1 got a better trans and I know if the a10 could fit in the vette it would be there. But it cant so you auto guys got stuck with an inferior trans.
the zf is an 8 speed but somehow much better than the gm 8 speed.
that's why I said if I get that 18+gt, I'm getting the 10 speed. Not the manual.
I dont mind auto at all, if it's good. That's why I got my z in manual.
you can keep your .3 of a second faster in the 1/4 because my car wont ever see that type of racing lol
#46
Drifting
I looked long hard look at the 2018 Mustang GT auto trans before buying my 2016 Z07. Watching these cars at the 1/4 mile in Bowling green and talking to the owners last spring confirmed the car was very impressive for the money spent. Like the C7 Z06 auto the Gt with the 10 speed auto trans was faster and more consistent than the stick equivalent. It was the great price I got on a low miles Z07 that kept me in a newer Corvette. If Ford had put that great 10 speed trans in the GT-350 it may have been another story.
Last edited by Toddiesel; 12-13-2018 at 09:23 AM.
#47
Safety Car
Dude, that's an old *** S197 (a 2007, probably). The Shelbys from that era had 500hp (if it was actually a super snake, 550). Don't get me wrong, I still like the C7Z better than the 13/14, but the difference between the 1st years of the S197 and the last years is like the difference between the C5 and the C7 vettes. It's night and day. I know you said it was 720 wheel hp, but it would have to be HIGHLY modified to pull that off. I think the guy was blowing smoke.
#48
Oh, i missed that part of the half mile.
But i've driven manual mustangs before, they have REALLY stiff clutches. Even my friends stock clutch terminator. It was like stepping on a rock. So i kinda get why the OP would want an auto for the next toy. But the clutches in our cars are so light and easy to use.
Although i still think the fun factor should outweigh him doing half mile events. I mean how many events can you really do per year? 2-3? Maybe 5? You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
But i've driven manual mustangs before, they have REALLY stiff clutches. Even my friends stock clutch terminator. It was like stepping on a rock. So i kinda get why the OP would want an auto for the next toy. But the clutches in our cars are so light and easy to use.
Although i still think the fun factor should outweigh him doing half mile events. I mean how many events can you really do per year? 2-3? Maybe 5? You're going to get an auto because you wanna do 5 events a year? lol
Last edited by Svtracer14; 12-13-2018 at 09:34 AM.
#49
Drifting
If what you want is an auto, don't worry about what people are saying about how much better the manual trans is and that it's dumb to buy an auto. I HATE automatics myself, but this is 'Merka and you get what makes you happy. Regardless of whether the 8 speed Chevy put in these cars is better or worse than another manufacturer, that's what comes in it. And it's going to do a better job of going down the strip for you than the manual. Whether it's better on a road course or not is irrelevant since you won't be doing those kinds of events anyway, so just ignore people that are trying to knock you for wanting to switch to automatic trans.
#50
Instructor
I'll never understand why these two cars are compared. Other than the HP output, they're for entirely different classes in every other way. If you want an excellent in basically every regard to sports car standards ride, get the Vette, If you want to go fast in a straight line and carry more than 1 small friend with you, keep the GT500. Other than than occupancy capability, the Vette is a better car from top to bottom, regardless of trim level and transmission.
Last edited by DavidC83; 12-13-2018 at 10:48 AM.
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#51
Drifting
I'll never understand why these two cars are compared. Other than the HP output they're for entirely different classes in every other way. If you want an excellent in basically every regard to sports car standards ride, get the Vette, If you want to go fast in a straight line and carry more than 1 small friend with you, keep the GT500. Other than than occupancy capability, the Vette is a better car from top to bottom, regardless of trim level and transmission.
Last edited by Toddiesel; 12-13-2018 at 10:54 AM.
#52
Traded in my 13 gt500 for my 15 zo6 m7 about a year and a half back. The gt500 had the basic mods intake, pulley and tune. It's best stock run was 11.2 and modded was a 10.4. Also ran it at pocono where it did well against some diverse cars. I found it to be reliable except for the issue you mentioned which was the clutch. But I'm a bit rough on clutches at the track. I also had the gear whine issue when I put in 3.73's. The zo6 hasn't had any issues in the 10k miles I've put on it except for a brake worn warning thats a glitch with the carbon brakes. As far as the comparison between them , the differences are obvious to all on this board in regards to the handling and braking. I think the gt500 was more practical and rode better then the vette. I would probably in retrospect keep the gt500 caused the thing scared me when I drove it and I like that in a car.