M7 or A8?
#41
I got an M7 and would do it all over again. I like rowing my own gears and have multiple other vehicles with three pedals. Adding a MGW was icing on the cake. clutch is super easy and with rev matching the car is very easy to drive. My car is FBO and with 345/35/18 Mickey’s out back the car dead hooks out of first. So much fun.
#42
Like many have said it depends on driving conditions and preference. The M7 is an absolute pleasure for me, really love the experience every time I drive
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#43
I got an M7 and would do it all over again. I like rowing my own gears and have multiple other vehicles with three pedals. Adding a MGW was icing on the cake. clutch is super easy and with rev matching the car is very easy to drive. My car is FBO and with 345/35/18 Mickey’s out back the car dead hooks out of first. So much fun.
I have 2 cars that are manual and 1 car that's auto. My true daily is my wrx which is a manual. It's a pretty terrible manual to be honest (because of insanely short gearing) and the clutch pedal feel/travel is very odd but i still prefer to drive that over my auto. I only use my auto car if i know i have to stay at work late, meaning when i get out, i know for sure there's going to be heavy traffic on the way home. Other than that, i always hop in the car where i can use 2 feet to drive lol. ANd i'm not talking about the flinstones lol
Plus the auto in our cars are terrible, so it didn't make sense to me. If they offered the ZF or a DCT in the C7's, i would have been getting that instead.
#44
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M7 is fun!
M7 - requires you to think ahead (nothing worse then 650 HP under foot and you let your mind drift away because the car is doing all the work for you. I see many people in all types of cars forgetting that they are on the highway and need to pay attention.
M7 vs A8 lap times at the Ron Fellows Z-06 school are dependent on the driver and have very little to do with transmission. If you are a professional drive you're not on this blog. However you are manually shifting the automatic similar to F-1 drivers.
Bottom line. You say you are a 3 peddle guy. Then order the M7 in your Z06
M7 - requires you to think ahead (nothing worse then 650 HP under foot and you let your mind drift away because the car is doing all the work for you. I see many people in all types of cars forgetting that they are on the highway and need to pay attention.
M7 vs A8 lap times at the Ron Fellows Z-06 school are dependent on the driver and have very little to do with transmission. If you are a professional drive you're not on this blog. However you are manually shifting the automatic similar to F-1 drivers.
Bottom line. You say you are a 3 peddle guy. Then order the M7 in your Z06
#45
I had an M7 Stingray and I currently have an A8 Z06. I think you have to decide how you will be driving the car and which configuration makes you smile more. There is no right answer.
When I got my Stingray I was driving about half an hour each way to work. The majority of my trip was on the highway and I chose the M7. I generally like manual transmissions but I was not happy with the shifter in the Stingray. I found it very easy to put in the wrong gear. I had my husband change out the stock shifter for an MGW and it was GREATLY improved.
I recently traded in my Stingray for a Z06. The reason I traded it in was that I really wanted the memory seats in the 2LT package. I wound up with the Z06 because the price was great and I got a good price for my trade. I opted for the A8 because we moved our office so that I am only commuting 10 minutes across town to work. It is much easier to deal with the A8 in city traffic, although I sometimes miss having a manual transmission.
I bought the Range AFM disabler and so far have not had any issues with the transmission. The car is only a few months old and I don't have many miles on it because I recently had surgery and have been driving my Buick Enclave since I have been cleared to drive. I sent my Z06 to get ceramic coated, and to have carbon fiber side skirts put on so I don't have it home now. I am dying to get my Z06 back!
When I got my Stingray I was driving about half an hour each way to work. The majority of my trip was on the highway and I chose the M7. I generally like manual transmissions but I was not happy with the shifter in the Stingray. I found it very easy to put in the wrong gear. I had my husband change out the stock shifter for an MGW and it was GREATLY improved.
I recently traded in my Stingray for a Z06. The reason I traded it in was that I really wanted the memory seats in the 2LT package. I wound up with the Z06 because the price was great and I got a good price for my trade. I opted for the A8 because we moved our office so that I am only commuting 10 minutes across town to work. It is much easier to deal with the A8 in city traffic, although I sometimes miss having a manual transmission.
I bought the Range AFM disabler and so far have not had any issues with the transmission. The car is only a few months old and I don't have many miles on it because I recently had surgery and have been driving my Buick Enclave since I have been cleared to drive. I sent my Z06 to get ceramic coated, and to have carbon fiber side skirts put on so I don't have it home now. I am dying to get my Z06 back!
#47
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This —- and rev match is way cool in the m7. You can pretend your Mario Andretti back In the mid 1960’s on a road course - going 25 mph downshifting to first in your neighborhood.
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#48
As much as it disturbs me to agree with RobGZ06, he spelled out the exact observation that I am living in his post #43 (maybe there's hope for him, yet). I had a '16 Z06 with the M7 and it was a really good transmission. I switched to the A8 in my 2018 Z06 because most of the Forum comments back in '16 & '17 were beyond positive with the A8 saying it was every bit as good as a twin clutch transmission, which is what I had in my new 2013 GT-R.
Well those comments were completely inaccurate except for maybe wide open acceleration shift speeds, which are basically worthless in every day street driving. The A8 is functional, but it is a slush box compared to the ZF and various twin clutch transmissions available in the market place. I probably would have been happier with the M7 because of the A8's "sloppiness", although this '18 car is a beauty.
Well those comments were completely inaccurate except for maybe wide open acceleration shift speeds, which are basically worthless in every day street driving. The A8 is functional, but it is a slush box compared to the ZF and various twin clutch transmissions available in the market place. I probably would have been happier with the M7 because of the A8's "sloppiness", although this '18 car is a beauty.
#49
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M.A.N.U.A.L.
If you want an manual you will always regret it if you settle for an auto. Trust me, been there done that. I just picked up my ‘19 LBR w/ kalahari competitive seats AND a M7. Life is good!
If you want an manual you will always regret it if you settle for an auto. Trust me, been there done that. I just picked up my ‘19 LBR w/ kalahari competitive seats AND a M7. Life is good!
#50
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Same.
I have 2 cars that are manual and 1 car that's auto. My true daily is my wrx which is a manual. It's a pretty terrible manual to be honest (because of insanely short gearing) and the clutch pedal feel/travel is very odd but i still prefer to drive that over my auto. I only use my auto car if i know i have to stay at work late, meaning when i get out, i know for sure there's going to be heavy traffic on the way home. Other than that, i always hop in the car where i can use 2 feet to drive lol. ANd i'm not talking about the flinstones lol
Plus the auto in our cars are terrible, so it didn't make sense to me. If they offered the ZF or a DCT in the C7's, i would have been getting that instead.
I have 2 cars that are manual and 1 car that's auto. My true daily is my wrx which is a manual. It's a pretty terrible manual to be honest (because of insanely short gearing) and the clutch pedal feel/travel is very odd but i still prefer to drive that over my auto. I only use my auto car if i know i have to stay at work late, meaning when i get out, i know for sure there's going to be heavy traffic on the way home. Other than that, i always hop in the car where i can use 2 feet to drive lol. ANd i'm not talking about the flinstones lol
Plus the auto in our cars are terrible, so it didn't make sense to me. If they offered the ZF or a DCT in the C7's, i would have been getting that instead.
I would be very sad if i didn't have the option to drive manual... that s my thoughts.
#51
I have a very hard time going from my STi to my vette.... The clutch engages in the first 10% of travel in the Subaru.... and the vette is like the last 10% it engages lol.... To COMPLETELY diff transmissions... Crazy!
I would be very sad if i didn't have the option to drive manual... that s my thoughts.
I would be very sad if i didn't have the option to drive manual... that s my thoughts.
I can't wait until lease is over, i'm going to ghost ride the car into the dealership!! LOL
Probably going to get a charger scatpack next.
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The C7 transmission sets the shifter in the middle of the 3/4 gate just like the C5 and C6 6 speed transmissions did. Put the transmission into neutral and it sits right in the middle of the 3/4 gate. Shifting from 2 to 3 without missing a shift are easy as long as you use the heel of the hand to push the shifter forward. As soon as it gets to the opening it will move sideways into the 3/4 gate and into 3rd. Now if you grip the shifter like a pistol grip or try to aim the shifter you will have a higher probability of missing the shift. It isn't about the sloppiness or tightness of any of those shifters it is all about poor shifting practice. Hold the shifter correctly and make proper use of the fingers and heel of the hand and you can make quick reliable shifts without purchasing an aftermarket shifter to make up for the driver's lack of ability.
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If you want to feel fast go M7 If you want to be fast go A8
#56
You really said it way better than I could have thought to say it.
I've had manual transmissions all my life and always got my toys with this transmission if available. The higher horsepower cars (600+) are now more difficult for me to control well, since I got into my 70's. I can still drive them well, but when you slam that go peddle down, I just don't feel quick and/or coordinated enough to handle the car as it should be handled. The A8 makes it a lot easier to go fast and drive the car better, but I still do love the M7 more, but cooler heads prevailed. My new Z06 is an A8.
I've had manual transmissions all my life and always got my toys with this transmission if available. The higher horsepower cars (600+) are now more difficult for me to control well, since I got into my 70's. I can still drive them well, but when you slam that go peddle down, I just don't feel quick and/or coordinated enough to handle the car as it should be handled. The A8 makes it a lot easier to go fast and drive the car better, but I still do love the M7 more, but cooler heads prevailed. My new Z06 is an A8.
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