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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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A supercar is a combination of exclusivity (not corvette), exotic materials/construction/design/technology (not corvette), and performance (yes corvette). The corvette is a great sportscar that punches well above its weight class but it is not at supercar status. If a corvette was a supercar then the Demon, Hellcat, and Mustang would also have to get included and I doubt many would agree with that.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by speed4tu
Agree, the C8Z will be sweet, no way I would buy a base model, in 4-5 years Z06 will be out and discounted for as cheap as you can get a base c8 now. And I wouldn't take my c7Z up to and exotics meet. Not unless I parked in another lot and walked over to look. lol
I hope GM puts out the C8Z 1 year later, similar to what they did with the C7. Stingray debuted in 2014, the z06 was offered in 2015.

So i hope GM does that again, i think they will. I know their bread and butter for the C8 WON'T be the C8 stingray lol. It's the models after it.

So i hope if the stingray hits the streets in 2020, then the C8Z debuts in 2021, and in 2022 when the bugs are worked out, THAT'S the year to get it.

See, how can anyone not be excited to move up to a corvette we can now call a supercar?? Well in 2022 you can
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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of foreign origin or character; not native; introduced from abroad, but not fully naturalized or acclimatized

strikingly unusual or strange in effect or appearance

of a uniquely new or experimental nature

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Originally Posted by speed4tu
There is nothing remotely exotic about any Corvette ever made. Despite what anyone thinks its a high volume Chevy. Also the low production "special ones" are nothing more than different colors, vinyl graphics that some grandpa was dumb enough to pay for. I also wouldn't call the C7Z or Zr1 a supercar, supercar perfromance yes, but its not a supercar. Just take things for what they are, and don't show up to an exotic meet in your new C8!
Unless of course you are there to kick some ***...I get it.
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of foreign origin or character; not native; introduced from abroad, but not fully naturalized or acclimatized

strikingly unusual or strange in effect or appearance

of a uniquely new or experimental nature
So by your definition when I lived in Germany and had one of the first C5's in Europe, I had an exotic.
I would never claim that. But hey its your definition.

I will say for the first year or so at every stop folks would crowd around and swamp me with questions....especially so when I was in Italy.

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Ive lived and travelled quite a bit, exclusivity plays huge role in being an exotic. But because its hard to get doesnt make it an exotic. It being a true supercar, non assembly line, machine assembled, mass-produced, gets busy sitting in factory form pushes the envelope towards supercar which is a prerequisite for being exotic.
The Corvette is not a supercar nor exotic, while it can hang and beat supercars, hence why its one of the best bang for buck performance cars, and has been for a long time.
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
A supercar is a combination of exclusivity (not corvette), exotic materials/construction/design/technology (not corvette), and performance (yes corvette). The corvette is a great sportscar that punches well above its weight class but it is not at supercar status. If a corvette was a supercar then the Demon, Hellcat, and Mustang would also have to get included and I doubt many would agree with that.
I can dig it.
However that definition is your personal definition (which is fine) but its not the published definition of the word.

"Exotic materials"
You mean like carbon fiber and aluminum and poly-carbonate?

"Construction Design and technology."
You mean like a configurable color heads up display, an ELsd, configurable PDR, 2 huge LCD displays, 12 driving modes, electronic steering, electromagnetic dampers, driver selectable exhaust settings, forward and rear parking cameras and dent-less body panels? And that's Just the C7...C8 ups the ante even more LOL.

I leave it at this.
One can find a reason here or there to exclude the Corvette and Viper from the world of exotics and super cars.
But one can also find many more to justify their inclusion in those categories.

Believe me I get, it I know a super car or an Exotic is something exclusive.
And mass produced Corvette's are not exclusive.

However when you look at all the attributes of an exotic car, point for point objectively the Corvette has them covered weather anyone here wants to admit it or not, its a simple fact.

So an exotic car or a super car these days simply means a car that is exclusively expensive or prohibitively low production.
It has absolutely nothing to do with its objective superiority.

Because by no other measurable metric are they exotic or super when compared to a Vette or Viper or even a Porsche RS.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Ive lived and travelled quite a bit, exclusivity plays huge role in being an exotic. But because its hard to get doesnt make it an exotic. It being a true supercar, non assembly line, machine assembled, mass-produced, gets busy sitting in factory form pushes the envelope towards supercar which is a prerequisite for being exotic.
The Corvette is not a supercar nor exotic, while it can hang and beat supercars, hence why its one of the best bang for buck performance cars, and has been for a long time.
Yep I hear you. But other than being hard to get (exclusive) and expensive what makes a super car "super or an exotic "exotic"?

You wont find any logical answer to the question. There isn't one.

Some things are thought to be super or exotic simply because folks say its so.
Its a feeling, an emotional conclusion based on price and limited availability if you will. And that's just fine as long as they admit it.

Empirical data has absolutely nothing to do with it...and we all know it ......if that were the case you would have to include a host of other vehicles in the genre.
And we know that aint gonna happen....it is what it is.

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By the way Folks.......I know the Vette isn't exotic.....I am just having fun.

That being said, I don't believe modern exotic cars are truly exotic anymore.
They are simply just more exclusive examples of the state of the art.
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But hey its your definition.
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 01:55 PM
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In my opinion an Exotic or a Supercar is one that is simply unaffordable by 99 percent of the public. Very low production. Extremely hard to get your hands on one even if you have the money. Usually go up in value. Just like watches. Anyone can buy a Rolex if they really wanted to. Not everyone can buy a Richard Mille unless they took out a second mortgage on their house. A 60k car will NEVER be nor should it be considered a super car or exotic. It is a great bang for the budget and I cant wait to see the c8 z06.

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