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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 09:54 AM
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Greetings, I recently had a track incident and am having some body work done to my 2015 Z06. It has about 6000 miles on it. A couple of years ago, my diff went out at Road Atlanta and was replaced under warranty. I know the 2019 models have an improved differential / gearing. Does anyone know if a 2019 differential would be able to be plugged into a 2015? I was wondering if it would be possible to "upgrade" the differential in my 2015 with the newer differential. Thanks
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Greetings, I recently had a track incident and am having some body work done to my 2015 Z06. It has about 6000 miles on it. A couple of years ago, my diff went out at Road Atlanta and was replaced under warranty. I know the 2019 models have an improved differential / gearing. Does anyone know if a 2019 differential would be able to be plugged into a 2015? I was wondering if it would be possible to "upgrade" the differential in my 2015 with the newer differential. Thanks
You may or may not have to change the housing as well, but if your going to change rears your probably going to try and find a junk yard rear anyway and that would have a housing with it. The difference with the newer rear is tougher spider gears and that may mean it was just shot peened or uses a tougher grade of steel or it could be bigger or thicker which could mean a modified housing. Hope this helps.
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When mine went out I replaced it with a Wavetrac from RPM and went ahead and installed GForces axles while there. That almost bullet proofs it.
BTW I have it from a good source that there have been more than a few "track incidents" attributed to a failing Ediff.

I broke mine at the drag strip. I guess I got lucky.

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When mine went out I replaced it with a Wavetrac from RPM and went ahead and installed GForces axles while there. That almost bullet proofs it.
BTW I have it from a good source that there have been more than a few "track incidents" attributed to a failing Ediff.

I broke mine at the drag strip. I guess I got lucky.

A couple of weeks ago at the drag strip, I saw a C7Z make a HARD right turn from the left lane, about 400’ out. He crossed the center line and BARELY missed the right wall. As he came back to the pits, I heard the rear end popping and clanking. So the diff broke and caused the car to go hard right.... He had to call a wrecker to get it home.

At that point, I decided I’m done drag racing on the stock rear end. I’ll be doing an RPM diff next year.

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A couple of weeks ago at the drag strip, I saw a C7Z make a HARD right turn from the left lane, about 400’ out. He crossed the center line and BARELY missed the right wall. As he came back to the pits, I heard the rear end popping and clanking. So the diff broke and caused the car to go hard right.... He had to call a wrecker to get it home.

At that point, I decided I’m done drag racing on the stock rear end. I’ll be doing an RPM diff next year.
Copy that. At least next year isn't that far away.
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Originally Posted by bdscott
Greetings, I recently had a track incident and am having some body work done to my 2015 Z06. It has about 6000 miles on it. A couple of years ago, my diff went out at Road Atlanta and was replaced under warranty. I know the 2019 models have an improved differential / gearing. Does anyone know if a 2019 differential would be able to be plugged into a 2015? I was wondering if it would be possible to "upgrade" the differential in my 2015 with the newer differential. Thanks
I don't think a heavier diff will do you much good. It might help if you are drag racing but your big problem with diff durability isn't sudden gear changes dumping lots of torque into the diff it is heat from running long sessions at high speeds. The diff needs to be serviced so the lube is in good shape and the diff cooler in the right rear quarter is actually cooling the diff. For track usage GM recommends changing the diff fluid after the first track even and then after each 24 hours of track usage. Doing that should ensure your diff lasts as long as you want it to.

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After I broke my Diff, I called a dealer and gave them my vin (2016), a vin off a 2018 and one from a 2019 and the part #'s were all the same. So, I assuming that all GM diffs that are out there are the later ones..?? Don't see why GM would install an older unit, especially if tons of them were being blown up.
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After I broke my Diff, I called a dealer and gave them my vin (2016), a vin off a 2018 and one from a 2019 and the part #'s were all the same. So, I assuming that all GM diffs that are out there are the later ones..?? Don't see why GM would install an older unit, especially if tons of them were being blown up.
Thanks for posting that. I was going to do the same thing.
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Yeah, I did the same thing and got the same answer. Part numbers seemed to be the same. But he also said that there were like six different numbers, so I wasn't sure if part of it could be replaced or if potentially the whole thing needed to be swapped.
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I've definitely done the maintenance as recommended. I'm kind of particular for things like that. So it definitely wasn't because that was being ignored. We'll see once the body shop is able to get the car moving, then they can diagnose if there is also a current diff issue. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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I've recently switched to Amsoil 75W-110 fluid for better high temp protection. 110 weight standart is compatible with (satisfies) 90 weight specs, but promise much better high temp lubrication/protection. It might be worth considering..
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Fast forward to 20:50 if you wanna see what happens when your C7 diff breaks while you are rolling... 😨
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Here is the carnage of my failed diff. I don't have the power to have done this, so I am thinking something failed within the ELSD hydraulic system. The GM Tech thinks the part was defective. It was replaced but the Tech followed a different fill procedure instead of the one in Document ID# 3415940. Next week, I might send it back to ensure the ELSD bleed and scan tools were used to properly fill that side of the lines.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f16gctbhuvNxcqQt7

It's nice to have the car back home though. Damn UAW strike set me back over a month due to parts orders.

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Here is the carnage of my failed diff. I don't have the power to have done this, so I am thinking something failed within the ELSD hydraulic system. The GM Tech thinks the part was defective. It was replaced but the Tech followed a different fill procedure instead of the one in Document ID# 3415940. Next week, I might send it back to ensure the ELSD bleed and scan tools were used to properly fill that side of the lines.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f16gctbhuvNxcqQt7

It's nice to have the car back home though. Damn UAW strike set me back over a month due to parts orders.
Mine looked just like that. There have been some E diff failures for sure.
I know how you feel about the time down, last year when I broke mine it took 3 months to get everything needed for it.
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Originally Posted by Thomasmoto
Mine looked just like that. There have been some E diff failures for sure.
I know how you feel about the time down, last year when I broke mine it took 3 months to get everything needed for it.
The good thing is, the new diff is what comes in the 2019 cars, so hopefully it'll be a lot better. The transmission feels better too because it got a fresh flush while it was out.
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