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Old May 14, 2022 | 06:06 PM
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I was at Road America today and my carbon ceramic brakes wouldn’t last longer than 10 minutes. After the first episode I found a quiet road and did the 50-60 hard stops from 60 (made me ill in the process). Next session same issue. All 4 sessions I didn’t make it 10 minutes. The pads look white so thought they were burnished.
Has this happened to others? Solutions?
Car is a 2017 with 10,000 miles. Car is new to me and this was my first track outing.

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Describe the problem you experienced. Saying they didn't last 10 minutes doesn't mean much. My CCM brakes and the CCM brakes in many cars I have ridden in as an instructor do very well for 20 minutes on track with no indication of a fall off in performance. The only issue I have seen with the brakes is the cost of replacement parts due to the rotors not lasting any longer than aftermarket iron racing rotors. At Quadruple the replacement cost of iron aftermarket rotors the CCMs just aren't cost-effective.

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Old May 14, 2022 | 06:18 PM
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I pushed the brakes to the floor and it barely made a difference. Brake fluid was just changed to motul 600
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I pushed the brakes to the floor and it barely made a difference. Brake fluid was just changed to motul 600
That sounds like there is air in the lines and that isn't the fault of the brakes. Just because the fluid was changed doesn't mean it was changed correctly. Bleed the system again and make sure the ABS Automated Bleed is performed to make sure air that might be captured in the ABS module is able to get by the module's valves.

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What Bill says.
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Bleed the calipers again and make sure someone who knows what they are doing is present. You got air in the calipers.
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Thanks. Dealer did the brake fluid changed. I’ll bring it back and have them correct it.
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Thanks. Dealer did the brake fluid changed. I’ll bring it back and have them correct it.
Flushed the brakes this morning at the track and all good. Unfortunately last session went into low power mode.
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Originally Posted by MWade
Flushed the brakes this morning at the track and all good. Unfortunately last session went into low power mode.
glad we could help. To the next problem !
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