C7 Z06 Discussion General Z06 Corvette Discussion, LT4 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: GEM Motorsports

Oil Change in stored car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-15-2024, 08:33 PM
  #1  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Oil Change in stored car

Looking at buying a c7 z06.
Current owner put about 250 miles on car in last 2.5 years, however.
He also went 2.5 years between oil change.
It was stored in climate controlled garage on concrete floor.
Am I at risk of buying a motor with issues due to length of time between oil change?
Mobil1 5w30 synthetic.

Popular Reply

05-15-2024, 08:49 PM
Kel15
Intermediate
 
Kel15's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2023
Location: Niagara, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 25
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

No, If you purchase, just do the oil change.
Old 05-15-2024, 08:49 PM
  #2  
Kel15
Intermediate
 
Kel15's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2023
Location: Niagara, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 25
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

No, If you purchase, just do the oil change.
The following 7 users liked this post by Kel15:
42ZED (05-17-2024), BLU JET 07 (05-19-2024), Cornfed24 (05-16-2024), Dads2kconvertible (05-17-2024), Devereaux (05-16-2024), Shokwav (05-16-2024), speedjuno (05-15-2024) and 2 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 05-16-2024, 01:24 AM
  #3  
Shokwav
Pro
 
Shokwav's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2023
Posts: 560
Received 245 Likes on 135 Posts
Default

Should be fine. I wouldn’t take it straight to the track without changing the oil but sitting like that isn’t going to hurt anything.
The following 3 users liked this post by Shokwav:
Cornfed24 (05-16-2024), Devereaux (05-16-2024), Y2KFirehawk (05-28-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 05:18 AM
  #4  
Devereaux
Racer
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Devereaux's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2009
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 385
Received 57 Likes on 44 Posts

Default

Modern synthetic oil does not break down like the old petroleum based oils did. Change of oil is primarily because of dirt. IF you could keep your oil clean, you could use it forever. You can't, though, so you change it out. The bigger motors have dry-sump lubrication, so they have positive lube under any conditions - except lack of oil. That is your only risk. Check there really IS oil, and you're good to go.
The following 2 users liked this post by Devereaux:
BLU JET 07 (05-19-2024), Cornfed24 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 08:36 AM
  #5  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Thank you for the input.
Oil/Filter was changed late fall 21 then stored.
Put on 85 miles in 22 and 145 in 23.
Then he changed oil/filter in April 24.

I can’t say for certain, but I believe those few miles were Sunday driving miles as well.

Last edited by Cornfed24; 05-16-2024 at 08:44 AM.
Old 05-16-2024, 10:07 AM
  #6  
shopteacher
Instructor

Pro Mechanic
 
shopteacher's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2008
Location: Bozeman/Livingston MT
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 28 Posts

Default

The primary reasons to change oil regularly are chemical and atmospherical contamination and the breakdown of the chemical additive package added to the "oil" (petroleum or synthetic) base used to lubricate. These additives add to lubricity, chemically treat the oil to improve pour point performance, maintain SAE viscosity under operating conditions, clean, provide cold startup protection and more. With the advent of current ignition and fuel injection processes, much more accurate machining procedures, cleaner burning fuels and improved oil manufacturing, oils are far superior those used in your father's Oldsmobile. Oil alone unless burned will not wear out. It can be retreated and reused indefinitely. The hardest thing you can do to your oil is starting the engine and not getting it warmed up to operating temperatures. I consider that to be open road speed for at least fifteen minutes.
You can not change your oil too often. Your engine likes it but it is expensive and wasteful. The short answer is to follow the manufacturer's recommendations. They spend a lot of money to insure low warranty payouts. Very few engine failures can be attributed to oil failure alone.
The following 2 users liked this post by shopteacher:
Cornfed24 (05-16-2024), Widgeon5 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 12:05 PM
  #7  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by shopteacher
The primary reasons to change oil regularly are chemical and atmospherical contamination and the breakdown of the chemical additive package added to the "oil" (petroleum or synthetic) base used to lubricate. These additives add to lubricity, chemically treat the oil to improve pour point performance, maintain SAE viscosity under operating conditions, clean, provide cold startup protection and more. With the advent of current ignition and fuel injection processes, much more accurate machining procedures, cleaner burning fuels and improved oil manufacturing, oils are far superior those used in your father's Oldsmobile. Oil alone unless burned will not wear out. It can be retreated and reused indefinitely. The hardest thing you can do to your oil is starting the engine and not getting it warmed up to operating temperatures. I consider that to be open road speed for at least fifteen minutes.
You can not change your oil too often. Your engine likes it but it is expensive and wasteful. The short answer is to follow the manufacturer's recommendations. They spend a lot of money to insure low warranty payouts. Very few engine failures can be attributed to oil failure alone.
Thank you for response. Sounds like best to follow recommendations of at least changing every 12 months, but in this case with minimal use, minimal mileage, climate controlled storage, it’s pry ok it went without an oil change for 2.5 years, so don’t let it deter me from buying but make sure to get on a routine on doing it annually regardless of mileage?
Old 05-16-2024, 12:37 PM
  #8  
Shokwav
Pro
 
Shokwav's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2023
Posts: 560
Received 245 Likes on 135 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Cornfed24
Thank you for response. Sounds like best to follow recommendations of at least changing every 12 months, but in this case with minimal use, minimal mileage, climate controlled storage, it’s pry ok it went without an oil change for 2.5 years, so don’t let it deter me from buying but make sure to get on a routine on doing it annually regardless of mileage?
if everything else checks out with the car I’d buy it. Would much rather a car stored in this manner than something beat on with higher miles
The following users liked this post:
Cornfed24 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 12:46 PM
  #9  
C7.R 004
Instructor
 
C7.R 004's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2021
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 68 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Cornfed,

Lake Speed Jr, The Motor Oil Geek, has tons of videos on YouTube.
He convinced me that he is an expert with knowledge and experience.
YMMV
The following users liked this post:
Cornfed24 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 12:54 PM
  #10  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C7.R 004
Cornfed,

Lake Speed Jr, The Motor Oil Geek, has tons of videos on YouTube.
He convinced me that he is an expert with knowledge and experience.
YMMV
Do you know what his take is on this or should I reach out directly to him?
Old 05-16-2024, 02:16 PM
  #11  
ZMC2001
Racer
 
ZMC2001's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2021
Location: Illinois
Posts: 320
Received 99 Likes on 75 Posts
Default

This wouldn't cause me too much concern as was mentioned. The car should be fine and I would buy it. The only thing that would concern me is that if the car indeed has THAT low of miles, the quirks may not be worked out yet and there could be problems with parts down the road as you put more miles on it. This has nothing to do with the oil, but generally when I buy a used car, I like one with around 10K miles so that I know anything faulty from the factory has a better chance of already failing and being replaced under warranty as I highly doubt there will still be warranty on the car. This is not full proof, but makes me feel a bit better. If you plan on modifying a car though, this is a moot point. All in all, I would buy the car, nothing you said would scare me away.
The following 2 users liked this post by ZMC2001:
BLU JET 07 (05-19-2024), Cornfed24 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 02:23 PM
  #12  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ZMC2001
This wouldn't cause me too much concern as was mentioned. The car should be fine and I would buy it. The only thing that would concern me is that if the car indeed has THAT low of miles, the quirks may not be worked out yet and there could be problems with parts down the road as you put more miles on it. This has nothing to do with the oil, but generally when I buy a used car, I like one with around 10K miles so that I know anything faulty from the factory has a better chance of already failing and being replaced under warranty as I highly doubt there will still be warranty on the car. This is not full proof, but makes me feel a bit better. If you plan on modifying a car though, this is a moot point. All in all, I would buy the car, nothing you said would scare me away.
perfect, the car has just over 10k miles. The current owner only put 1,200 miles on last 4 years.
Old 05-16-2024, 04:12 PM
  #13  
C7.R 004
Instructor
 
C7.R 004's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2021
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 68 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Corn,
I'm sure Lake has a video addressing your concerns.
As mentioned, change the oil/filter and have fun!!
The following users liked this post:
Cornfed24 (05-16-2024)
Old 05-16-2024, 06:02 PM
  #14  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C7.R 004
Corn,
I'm sure Lake has a video addressing your concerns.
As mentioned, change the oil/filter and have fun!!

Doesn’t sound like he would approve
Old 05-17-2024, 09:38 AM
  #15  
rtv900
Drifting
 
rtv900's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2019
Location: near philly
Posts: 1,386
Likes: 0
Received 559 Likes on 374 Posts
Default

what year and how many miles on the car?

do you mean the 2nd owner basically never drove it?
or this is one of those cars that somebody bought and stored?
Old 05-17-2024, 09:41 AM
  #16  
Thomasmoto
Race Director
 
Thomasmoto's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2011
Location: GREER SC
Posts: 19,877
Received 1,523 Likes on 1,037 Posts

Default

That car will be fine. I would just change the oil when you buy it.
Old 05-17-2024, 10:11 AM
  #17  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rtv900
what year and how many miles on the car?

do you mean the 2nd owner basically never drove it?
or this is one of those cars that somebody bought and stored?
2016
10,300 miles
it was consistently changed by 1st owner
2nd owner was dealer for short time
3rd owner was older guy, put 200 miles on then passed
4th owner was first owners neighbor
he’s out 1,200 miles on it in last 4 years
does own oil changes, keeps his records written down
changed it 3 times over 4 years and 1200 miles
but there was so few miles in a 2.5 year window that he didn’t change it
so 1st was when he bought, second was nov 21, third was April 24

Get notified of new replies

To Oil Change in stored car

Old 05-17-2024, 10:12 AM
  #18  
Cornfed24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Cornfed24's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2024
Posts: 36
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Thomasmoto
That car will be fine. I would just change the oil when you buy it.
he just changed it last month
Old 05-17-2024, 10:19 AM
  #19  
acroy
Le Mans Master
 
acroy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Location: DFW TX
Posts: 9,783
Received 1,505 Likes on 908 Posts

Default

Don't worry about it. If it's a good deal, buy it and enjoy it. It's basically a new car.
The following users liked this post:
Cornfed24 (05-17-2024)
Old 05-17-2024, 10:49 AM
  #20  
rtv900
Drifting
 
rtv900's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2019
Location: near philly
Posts: 1,386
Likes: 0
Received 559 Likes on 374 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Cornfed24
2016
10,300 miles
it was consistently changed by 1st owner
2nd owner was dealer for short time
3rd owner was older guy, put 200 miles on then passed
4th owner was first owners neighbor
he’s out 1,200 miles on it in last 4 years
does own oil changes, keeps his records written down
changed it 3 times over 4 years and 1200 miles
but there was so few miles in a 2.5 year window that he didn’t change it
so 1st was when he bought, second was nov 21, third was April 24
gotcha

either way I wouldn't worry about it.
If you are really concerned you could just get the oil nice and hot (since it was just changed last month) and then do another change
that would loosen up and dissolve any potential sludge that built up that may not have been flushed out on the last change (or if some of the past owners did oil changed cold)
You'll be able to tell immediately by the appearance of the oil
The following users liked this post:
Cornfed24 (05-17-2024)


Quick Reply: Oil Change in stored car



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:52 PM.