Ifweonlyknew

Idk I'm not really feeling it, I was expecting at least 800 hp, lighter weight, DOHC NA, new interior, active aero wing or the smaller more subtle one we saw testing on the Nurburgring. I'm fairly disappointed that we got another Supercharged engine. But I do hope it's not "quiet" as other stock Vettes. Listening to other V8s like AMG they sound mean right out the factory even with the optional performance exhaust Vettes lack that certain something. Not saying it doesn't sound good but ever since the LS engines came out (now LT) they just lack that earthquake sound the Gen 2 L98/LT1/4/5 were capable of. The ZR1 on the Nurburgring sounded nasty and I hope its even louder than that when it hits the road. If it's only as loud as the Z06 despite having 100+ hp than that's an issue. I'm excited to see how it will fair against the GT2 RS and even other exotics. I'd love for the Zr1 to be a worldwide seller.

JerryU

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Hmm, was not expecting much else! I'm sure they are working on the "new engine" for the mid engine car. Won't make many happy if my prediction for it comes true! My guess it will be a small cid V6, with double overhead cams and dual turbo's, big ones for the high hp version. If Ford can get 647 hp for the GT from 3.5 Liters, squeezing a bit more out with a few more years of development should be possible! Hopefully it will be a lot lighter car with less drag than the ZR1!

I believe GM is working on more efficient engines as that small cid V6 would be, (at least at the EPA test drive specs that produce the corporate mpg number!) No one cares about mileage at WOT, including the EPA!

Even at $125,000 it's no several million dollar exotic like the 1000 hp Bulgotti!

I was also thinking it might have computer adjustable aero like their recent patent. Perhaps that will be on the mid engine car as well. Hopefully the mid engine Vette at least wouldn't look like "Boy Racer!" Wider front fenders, more weight-and the drag from the front and rear aero- it needs more hp! Reminds me of the kids around here with big wings and tires sticking outside the car! Frankly the Lamborghini Countach looked less ridiculous and the name Countach is a slang word meaning "Oh My Gosh," or probably more like "Holly S**t!"

elegant

I am always glad that there is another option for Corvette lovers with differentbudget and choices than mine. I hope GM sells a fair amount, from the small wing through the ZTX version.

I personally am excited for all who are getting one, whether theirs is on one end of the spectrum (a DD with the small wing) to the track beast. You are lucky folks!!!

MSG C5

The extended length 2019 model year appears to be the close out year for the C7 generation. I'm glad that GM threw a bone to the core track guys with the ZR1 to help close what may be the last generation of front-engine Corvettes. However with the exceptions of a few paint and electronics updates I'm not surprised that the Stingray, Grand Sport, and Z06 effectively remain unchanged as the R&D for the C7 generation is over.

As to the ZR1, I hope the people who choose to buy it drive it for the purpose it was designed for. I know there will be owners who will buy it for HP bragging rights, shine it up and drive it to cars and coffee and local car shows only. That's fine, it's their money and they can do what they want. However, I'm not excited about the ZR1 since 99.999% of my driving is on the street so I can live with the occasional track-day humiliation of not driving a ZR1 vs. a Z06.

In comparison, I like the streamlined look of the Z06 vs. the bulging components of the ZR1. Sort of like when I saw a Viper ACR on streets a few years ago. The car had raw race car aggressive lines, but really looked out of place in rush hour traffic.

I think most drivers can really feel the street performance jump from a 460HP Stingray/Grand Sport LT1 to a 650 HP Z06 LT4, however, it will be interesting to find out how many current Z06 owners feel about the jump to the 750 HP LT5 while carrying the extra 140 pounds driving on the street. The rear wing downforce and other aggressive aero will certainly help on the track, but probably just get in the way on the street.

If they want the ultimate cool Corvette race car with a lot of finger pointing and admiring glances, get the ZR1.

LT1 Z51

Why did you expect these things?

It was never getting DOHC, that's for the mid engine. Too much packaging to change, bigger blower and new internals is easier.

The interior, that was never even on the table. Your interior might get freshened at an MCE for most cars, but Corvettes since the C5 pretty much lock down the interior. The sole exception was the 2008 C6 which got a nip and a tuck on some materials. If you know the industry this was an unrealistic hope.

Active aero just might not have been feasible timing wise.

Corvettes are quiet mostly because of the exhaust routing. The stock header design and packaging makes it very hard to get a good sound out. Further European standards make it nearly impossible to make it louder. A lot of those exotic European cars which are loud have waivers, or tricks to make it quiet to pass the test and louder other times. They could actually be illegal.

There will be a 2020 C7, and more than likely a 2021.

The ONLY reason the 2019 model year is extended was to bring the ZR1 production date to January from July. GM could have sold the ZR1 as a 2018, but with it going on sale in January they can call it a 2019 if they moved the whole model range to the next model year.

The extended 2019 model year is nothing but a marketing ploy, and has nothing to do with the generation ending early. It also makes it easier to delineate which cars use the new paint shop and assembly line (one by making 2018 shorter, and two by nearly eliminating 2018 production after the changeover). There are what 8 or 10 weeks of 2018 production between the plant reopening to the changeover?

MSG C5

I still think 2019 is going to be the final model year of the C7. My reasoning isn't based so much on the extended model year, rather the GM executives confirming when the C7 made it's debut in 2013, that the C7 will have a planned shorter generational production run than the C5 and C6. Since the C6 had a 9-year run and the C5 had an 8-year run, I would think the C7 would run a maximum of 7 years (2014-2020) for that forecast to be true. So I guess 2020 will be the wild card year.

Ifweonlyknew

If the C7 ends its run without a single update in power...

Steve_R

Huh?

Ifweonlyknew

The HP rating has remained the same for 4 years. All of it's competetion has updated but for some reason the C7 has remained at 465 and 650. The Grand Sport should have gotten at least 525 but it has the same HP rating as a Stingray there is no excuse for that.

Stingray23

If we didnt get the HP bump till now, its most likely not gonna happen this late. They shouldve bumped the power to 500hp with the 2017 release of the Grand Sport.

10KillerVette

I too am a little disappointed, was hoping for something more radical but guess that will happen with the ME. So glad I bought a '17 ACR, it puts a grin on my face, think I'll skip my place in line (1) on my dealers list for a ZR1 and wait in line for a AMG GTR. Love Corvettes have 3 of them, just a little let down unless the reveal at Dubai offers new news to sway me back.

Ifweonlyknew

I'm starting to think GM either gives **** all or they think the consumer is stupid

davidtcpa

Why? The competition in the price point of the Vette does not even come close in HP & performance.

MSG C5

I thought the Grand Sport should have received a bump in HP. It appears the only HP bump for 2019 will be to 750, but it will cost $130K+ for the increase.

Supersonic 427

To me the ZR1 is a Z06 with the Z07 pkg. standard, a larger supercharger and a new front clip with extra coolers, different wheels and rear spoiler. Power wise we already had this in the Callaway 757 Z06. It seems the factory wanted to build it's own hopped up version of the Z06.

CloudLS9

Let's be real. Just like the last ZR1, most will sit in a garage getting waxed and shined with great care taken to perfectly preserve for the 2nd owners. In 4 years when they've depreciated by 50%, there will be a bunch on the market with less than 5k miles. The first owner will take a huge financial hit and never really get to experience the cars potential. The 2nd owners will be more likely to actually drive these cars both on the road and the track and they will loose much less in depreciation as it slows a great deal at this point.

Let's think about this for a second. If someone buys a $130k car and only drives it 5k miles, then sells it for$65k in 4 years, they essentially paid $13 per mile driven or $1,354 per month in just depreciation alone. This doesn't even factor in monthly payments on a 6 figure car, gas and insurance.


This is why I'm always the 2nd owner of low mileage high performance cars. You just have to wait about 4 years until everyone is excited over the next new hot car.

Steve_R

I'm starting to think you're a troll and you don't even own a C7.

I wonder which of us is right?

dvilin

I think if anyone from GM reads some of these post they will definitely think some of their customers are stupid....

witch hunt

agree wholeheartedly!!

rb185afm

It's kinda like if you bought a Z06, add a LG front cooler package, a tune, pulley, and a wing. I would have preferred a lower weight hard core NA track monster.