ZR1 for $145,000???
11-16-2017, 08:33 PM
#81
+1 on the seats. The comp seats definitely aren't functionally better than the GT seats are on track but they do look nice.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
11-16-2017, 09:20 PM
#82
Burning Brakes
11-16-2017, 09:32 PM
#83
I'd be curious to know just how many were tracking their Z06 with the Comp Seats and harness bar vs. full containment setup. There seems to be constant debate in this area in terms of safety.
How many are planning to order their ZR1 with the base GT seats and then do full replacement with other system?
Last edited by Hit Apex; 11-16-2017 at 09:33 PM.
11-16-2017, 09:46 PM
#84
Pro
Not sure if pricing will be available on the 20th ...
+1 on the seats. The comp seats definitely aren't functionally better than the GT seats are on track but they do look nice.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
And with these new "latest and greatest" models, people and dealers will place orders without knowing the price. So, I'm not saying that pricing won't be known on Monday, but just saying that it isn't a 100% guarantee either. Time will tell ...
11-16-2017, 09:51 PM
#85
Le Mans Master
I'm not too sure that pricing will be available on Monday. My dealer told me that GM has released ordering codes less pricing in the past if they don't have all their numbers quite ready to go.
And with these new "latest and greatest" models, people and dealers will place orders without knowing the price. So, I'm not saying that pricing won't be known on Monday, but just saying that it isn't a 100% guarantee either. Time will tell ...
And with these new "latest and greatest" models, people and dealers will place orders without knowing the price. So, I'm not saying that pricing won't be known on Monday, but just saying that it isn't a 100% guarantee either. Time will tell ...
11-16-2017, 10:14 PM
#86
Burning Brakes
GT seats can't run a harness because there are no pass throughs.
I'd be curious to know just how many were tracking their Z06 with the Comp Seats and harness bar vs. full containment setup. There seems to be constant debate in this area in terms of safety.
How many are planning to order their ZR1 with the base GT seats and then do full replacement with other system?
I'd be curious to know just how many were tracking their Z06 with the Comp Seats and harness bar vs. full containment setup. There seems to be constant debate in this area in terms of safety.
How many are planning to order their ZR1 with the base GT seats and then do full replacement with other system?
11-16-2017, 11:44 PM
#87
11-17-2017, 12:38 AM
#88
Team Owner
FWIW, I take issue with many of the "extras" that come on the ZR1. I'm leaning against buying one due to the "bling". I wish one were available without any exposed carbon fiber, CCBs or other expensive, cosmetic pieces..
First off track excursion and the fancy CF skirts/splitter get ripped off. These are consumable items for track guys and I wish they were offered in just unfinished or plain old satin paint.
The CCBs are another potential deal breaker. As a driver I really dislike the CCBs. The modulation and torque curve leave a lot to be desired for my preference. I'd have to switch to iron rotors right away.
The exposed CF roof and hood components are also just bling I do not want to pay for. I could care less about the cosmetic "enhancements" this stuff adds.
I'm not a fan of the competition seats and prefer the GT for track usage. They work better for me.
I realize my needs/wants are going to be very different than others. However, I'm willing to wager there are a bunch of track guys out there who feel the same as I. There is a significant contingent of potential buyers who would like a stripped down version.
Rick
P.S. I've still not been able to find out if those butt ugly wheels are forged or cast?
First off track excursion and the fancy CF skirts/splitter get ripped off. These are consumable items for track guys and I wish they were offered in just unfinished or plain old satin paint.
The CCBs are another potential deal breaker. As a driver I really dislike the CCBs. The modulation and torque curve leave a lot to be desired for my preference. I'd have to switch to iron rotors right away.
The exposed CF roof and hood components are also just bling I do not want to pay for. I could care less about the cosmetic "enhancements" this stuff adds.
I'm not a fan of the competition seats and prefer the GT for track usage. They work better for me.
I realize my needs/wants are going to be very different than others. However, I'm willing to wager there are a bunch of track guys out there who feel the same as I. There is a significant contingent of potential buyers who would like a stripped down version.
Rick
P.S. I've still not been able to find out if those butt ugly wheels are forged or cast?
One track session and the Carbon fiber show piece can pick up pits and stone marks no touching up buffing out or repainting.Like you said off track and you have costly damage.
One dip you don't handle right and there goes your $2.000.00 front spoiler. Absolutely hated that about the C6ZR1!
This Zr1 will be more likely twice that or more.
Neither of my 2 Z06's have exposed carbon fiber on the exterior.
Nor would I order it. It is a car folks not a show piece.
I have had something happened to every car I bought.
My C6 ZR1 was brand new perfect till the salesman dropped his coffee cup and chipped the paint it was huge. I had it repaired and it was perfect they painted the whole door.
I buy 1 lz for that reason. Plenty fancy to drive. Plus they hold the dollar better options just don't retain value.
11-17-2017, 09:12 AM
#89
Burning Brakes
11-17-2017, 01:26 PM
#90
11-17-2017, 02:00 PM
#92
Race Director
11-17-2017, 03:54 PM
#93
150,000 zr1
I saw one added up on another forum $150,000 I actually saw a Z06 list for $140,000 in 2015. So I'm sure it can be done and wait til, the dealers get thru with it
11-17-2017, 04:38 PM
#94
Team Owner
+1 on the seats. The comp seats definitely aren't functionally better than the GT seats are on track but they do look nice.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
I would expect to see the aero bits (at least the splitter and side skirts) available in painted CF like the Z06 but to be honest I've found that the exposed/clear coated CF holds up better on track than the painted stuff. I did grind the splitter my 2015 without the stiffer FE7 springs but haven't had any issues with my 2017 Z07.
I'm really digging the ZR1 and will probably option it pretty heavily. In the end, it'll all come down to the cost and trade-in value for my 2017. I bet GM will price them very competitively to sell a bunch and recoup the cost of the new parts. We'll all know on Monday.
11-17-2017, 05:42 PM
#95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_dzm4WW68
I thought you were saying the belts wouldn't fit in the holes.
I thought you were saying the belts wouldn't fit in the holes.
11-18-2017, 02:12 PM
#96
Team Owner
Automobile just released an article about the 2019 ZR1.
With a $130,000. estimate price figure listed for the base car.
In line with what I'm thinking in that the price will be higher than expected for some.
With a $130,000. estimate price figure listed for the base car.
In line with what I'm thinking in that the price will be higher than expected for some.
11-18-2017, 02:18 PM
#97
Racer
Since it is proposed to be limited production, does anyone think that there will be any built that are not heavily optioned?
Edit:
I just read elsewhere that production will not be limited by GM, so my comment may not be valid. I do think that most people that spend that kind of money for the car will want it optioned out.....except for the hardcore track-rats.
Edit:
I just read elsewhere that production will not be limited by GM, so my comment may not be valid. I do think that most people that spend that kind of money for the car will want it optioned out.....except for the hardcore track-rats.
Last edited by 1 HOT 07; 11-18-2017 at 02:26 PM.
11-18-2017, 02:27 PM
#98
Instructor
11-18-2017, 02:58 PM
#99
Le Mans Master
I think most are too high in their estimates! My estimate again is a base price of $109,495 1ZR ZR1. That is $30,000 more than a base price of a 1LZ Z06 ($79,495). I am adding about 10-12 grand of standard Carbon Fiber pieces, the standard Carbon Ceramic Brakes $7495 and about 10 grand for the larger supercharger, extra cooling radiators and new front clip. Really how much more is the ZR1 worth than the Z06. I think 30 grand over a Z06 is pretty substantial for a bunch of carbon fiber pieces and 105 extra HP and 65 LB. Ft. of torque! Think about it..how much more is it going to cost GM to produce over the Z06 parts for a larger supercharger, port and direct injection, 4 cooling radiators, a different styled front clip and wheels? I may be wrong, but if this car is priced too high....it ain't going to sell!!
Last edited by Supersonic 427; 11-18-2017 at 03:01 PM.
11-18-2017, 04:36 PM
#100
Team Owner
I think most are too high in their estimates! My estimate again is a base price of $109,495 1ZR ZR1. That is $30,000 more than a base price of a 1LZ Z06 ($79,495). I am adding about 10-12 grand of standard Carbon Fiber pieces, the standard Carbon Ceramic Brakes $7495 and about 10 grand for the larger supercharger, extra cooling radiators and new front clip. Really how much more is the ZR1 worth than the Z06. I think 30 grand over a Z06 is pretty substantial for a bunch of carbon fiber pieces and 105 extra HP and 65 LB. Ft. of torque! Think about it..how much more is it going to cost GM to produce over the Z06 parts for a larger supercharger, port and direct injection, 4 cooling radiators, a different styled front clip and wheels? I may be wrong, but if this car is priced too high....it ain't going to sell!!
After looking at everything you missed and I 'm sure I am missing stuff as well. I'm thinking at least 134k and 159k I don't think there is a 1lz on these.
I don't see how it could be much less!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 11-18-2017 at 04:41 PM.