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Old 11-29-2017, 11:33 AM
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Press release states wheels are spun forged. I'm damn near speechless.

A $120,000 car with significant power and they're not equipping it with forged wheels. Insanity, especially with them knowing the current C7Z wheels are not up to the task and easily bent.

They put real forged wheels on the ZL1 1LE and CTS-V but not on the ZR1. I'm really just sitting here shaking my head. Surely they can't be this incompetent!?!?!? World class chassis and power unit and then they pull **** like this.

I can't adequately verbalize the stupidity and lack of market awareness demonstrated by this decision. I seriously won't/wouldn't buy one out of principle......

Rick

P.S. Bad enough the wheels look like they're left over from a 1980ish Ferrari. Shame, shame, shame....

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The obsession with forged wheels on this board baffles me. The arrogance that goes with it is hysterical to me considering you’re buying an economy sports car. Crazy tall gearing, skip shift, dod, not to mention Chevy quality.

Spin forged are just as strong as forged. They pass the same strength tests as forged. HRE Jullian confirmed this. They are light weight out on the barrel, where the rotating mass is most important.
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Perhaps they have testing indicating they're up to the task.
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Perhaps they have testing indicating they're up to the task.
Ridiculous. You don't put cheap *** rotary forged wheels on a $120k car. PERIOD.
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Luckily for any of you potential C7 ZR1 owners WEAPON-X sells wheels.

Maybe the ZL1 and V3 only got forged wheels because of the their vehicle weight?
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I just called my broker and made a sizable investment in straight jackets.
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Originally Posted by rikhek
Ridiculous. You don't put cheap *** rotary forged wheels on a $120k car. PERIOD.
I completely agree with you.

I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt. Which given the performance of the Z wheels, doesn't seem as readily deserved.

I think I've changed wheels on every vette I've owned. What surprised me the most about the wheels on the ZR is that they aren't 19s on all four corners to help facilitate running Hoosiers and the like.

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The obsession with forged wheels on this board baffles me. The arrogance that goes with it is hysterical to me considering you’re buying an economy sports car. Crazy tall gearing, skip shift, dod, not to mention Chevy quality.

Spin forged are just as strong as forged. They pass the same strength tests as forged. HRE Jullian confirmed this. They are light weight out on the barrel, where the rotating mass is most important.
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Originally Posted by rikhek
Press release states wheels are spun forged. I'm damn near speechless.

A $120,000 car with significant power and they're not equipping it with forged wheels. Insanity, especially with them knowing the current C7Z wheels are not up to the task and easily bent.

They put real forged wheels on the ZL1 1LE and CTS-V but not on the ZR1. I'm really just sitting here shaking my head. Surely they can't be this incompetent!?!?!? World class chassis and power unit and then they pull **** like this.

I can't adequately verbalize the stupidity and lack of market awareness demonstrated by this decision. I seriously won't/wouldn't buy one out of principle......

Rick

P.S. Bad enough the wheels look like they're left over from a 1980ish Ferrari. Shame, shame, shame....
You sure the 1LE wheels are full forged? They certainly don't look it. Usually fully forged wheels have some really intricate details and the 1LE wheels look pretty standard. I assumed they were Flow forged from the get go. Which is fine by the way. Almost all the benefit without the stupid costs.
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Originally Posted by fatsport
The arrogance that goes with it is hysterical to me considering you’re buying an economy sports car. Crazy tall gearing, skip shift, dod, not to mention Chevy quality.
This is the pot calling the kettle black! So much arrogance with the exotic
whatever is in the AVATAR calling the Corvette ZR1 an economy sports car? What will say when one drives away from your Exotic? You maybe used to that already you if have ran acrossed any modified Z06's !
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Originally Posted by vetteLT193
You sure the 1LE wheels are full forged? They certainly don't look it. Usually fully forged wheels have some really intricate details and the 1LE wheels look pretty standard. I assumed they were Flow forged from the get go. Which is fine by the way. Almost all the benefit without the stupid costs.
Not sure of the basis for your statement that forged wheels have intricate detail or how you can tell if a wheel is forged by the way it "looks". This is not accurate.

GM website specifies forged:

ZL1 front: 20-in. x 10-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 rear: 20-in. x 11-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 1LE front: 19-in. x 11-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 1LE rear: 19-in. x 12-in. forged aluminum

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Camaro ZL1 1LE wheels are forged aluminum mfg by SuperAlloy Industrial Company Ltd. (SAI) in Taiwan. 5th Gen Camaro Z28 wheels are forged aluminum mfg by Alcoa.
I own both version of the wheels.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
I completely agree with you.

I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt. Which given the performance of the Z wheels, doesn't seem as readily deserved.

I think I've changed wheels on every vette I've owned. What surprised me the most about the wheels on the ZR is that they aren't 19s on all four corners to help facilitate running Hoosiers and the like.
I think I have changed every stock wheel as well!
Corvettes have been 1 inch larger in the back as far As I can remember.
I added the cups as well . They are for sure are my favorite stock wheel.
For 1400.00 delivered They work. Don't remember issues with them when they were sold on the ZR1.

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Originally Posted by rob62
I just called my broker and made a sizable investment in straight jackets.
Lmfao
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
What will say when one drives away from your Exotic? You maybe used to that already you if have ran acrossed any modified Z06's !
To be fair do you think any exotic car owner would care if they lost a race to a vette? They are still driving the car they want and wouldn't trade it for the vette. Hell they probably have or could easily buy a vette and mod it if they really cared lol

It would be like you, out in your nice C7Z and get dusted by an old crappy looking foxbody Mustang that is highly modded. Would you care? Would you be looking to sell your Z06 for an old Mustang? lol No

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Originally Posted by rikhek
Not sure of the basis for your statement that forged wheels have intricate detail or how you can tell if a wheel is forged by the way it "looks". This is not accurate.

GM website specifies forged:

ZL1 front: 20-in. x 10-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 rear: 20-in. x 11-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 1LE front: 19-in. x 11-in. forged aluminum
ZL1 1LE rear: 19-in. x 12-in. forged aluminum
They don't necessarily have to have more detail but they tend to because a) they can and if you are already paying more for the wheel you may as well use the process to your advantage and b)it's actually a bit easier to have tighter and cleaner lines.

Look at the C5 Z06 wheels as a reference. GM used both full forged and spun forged. The full forged wheels are crisper and you can literally tell which one is which by looking at them even though they are the same design.

Also I'll adjust my initial statement... I had the Z28 wheels in my head which don't look forged to me. I just looked at pics of the ZL1 wheels and they do look forged. Apparently they were to offer them in silver too and the silver wheel is obviously forged.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Corvettes have been 1 inch larger in the back as far As I can remember.
Yeah, and currently that is a bit of a pain in the azz for track guys given the available track tire sizes in slicks/hoosiers.

It's one of the thing the Camaro team did right with the ZL1 ILE - they gave it a stock wheel set-up you can readily track from the get-go with track tires.

Given the ZR1 is intended to be the top track dog, it would have been nice if they would have done that for it.
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Originally Posted by thegame
To be fair do you think any exotic car owner would care if they lost a race to a vette? They are still driving the car they want and wouldn't trade it for the vette. Hell they probably have or could easily buy a vette and mod it if they really cared lol

It would be like you, out in your nice C7Z and get dusted by an old crappy looking foxbody Mustang that is highly modded. Would you care? Would you be looking to sell your Z06 for an old Mustang? lol No
Your just plain full of beans! What does owning a so called Exotic get you NOTHING but a smaller bank account.

Most people lease their so called Exotic's and don't even own them.
They worry about driving them they don't want any mile's on them.
Then you try to name a poor example about an old mustang? . A new C7 Z06 is not in any way lacking to the turd he his in his avatar.
His car is older than mine.


Then here is you preaching to me then driving your Z51 with an old centri kit?
What's it like? Your feel down in your car next to a Z06? All the while writing love letter's to P cars in your wishbook.
I thought your Z51 is/ was for sale??? Maybe lower the price.

I am proud I own 2 Z06's 1 A8 And 1 M7! Bought the cars I want not some lesser 3-8 year old slower so called EXOTIC !

I was pointing out to him being the pot calling the kettle black the guy whines about some ones arrogance while he is in full display showing his own arrogance. When some people laugh.

Too funny!

I have it made and very happy with my choices instead.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Your just plain full of beans! What does owning a so called Exotic get you NOTHING but a smaller bank account.

Most people lease their so called Exotic's and don't even own them.
They worry about driving them they don't want any mile's on them.
Then you try to name a poor example about an old mustang? . A new C7 Z06 is not in any way lacking to the turd he his in his avatar.
His car is older than mine.


Then here is you preaching to me then driving your Z51 with an old centri kit?
What's it like? Your feel down in your car next to a Z06? All the while writing love letter's to P cars in your wishbook.
I thought your Z51 is/ was for sale??? Maybe lower the price.

I am proud I own 2 Z06's 1 A8 And 1 M7! Bought the cars I want not some lesser 3-8 year old slower so called EXOTIC !

I was pointing out to him being the pot calling the kettle black the guy whines about some ones arrogance while he is in full display showing his own arrogance. When some people laugh.

Too funny!

I have it made and very happy with my choices instead.

LOL you're a weird dude. Never understood why you can't address a point without getting extremely defensive.

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Is that just a personal opinion or an expert one based upon real engineering? Have you tested the wheels?

Originally Posted by rikhek
Ridiculous. You don't put cheap *** rotary forged wheels on a $120k car. PERIOD.
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Maybe they're locked into a contract with a specific supplier for the whole C7 line?

Personally I love th wheel design. Looks ripped off a Ferrari but still love them.

Raced many years on '02-'04 Z06 wheels which are spuncast and I know my car generates forces much higher than this new street car. We run 315 Hoosier A7s.


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