Track records will fall with the ZR1
12-29-2017, 09:49 PM
#81
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12-29-2017, 10:10 PM
#82
Le Mans Master
There's Waay more! ;)
BUT
"Anyone else dump their I phone?"
The truth is I did think I was pushing it when I put that GT500 stuff in here, but, it ending up fitting in really well. I learned stuff and showed youse!
Some of the ZO6 babies...You have an ediff!
You shouldn't have to suffer That indignity.
"Anyone else dump their I phone?"
The truth is I did think I was pushing it when I put that GT500 stuff in here, but, it ending up fitting in really well. I learned stuff and showed youse!
Some of the ZO6 babies...You have an ediff!
You shouldn't have to suffer That indignity.
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12-30-2017, 12:58 AM
#83
I don't always understand his posts
Give yourself a belated Christmas present.......go to "User CP" and then click on "Edit Ignore List" and type in his user name.
Poof....away go his posts that derail any sense of logical communication.
Companies that run forums wonder why people are moving in droves to facebook and other social media outlets.....it's actually their own doing for not paying attention and moderating threads correctly. Break up the flow, make it hard to follow, make it irritating to read and people move on....especially with so many other options out there. Eventually enough people leave that it doesn't pay for the forum sponsors to advertise and the forum dies.
Here is a question to the moderators, would you allow somebody to post in Chinese?....because right now there's not much difference.
Poof....away go his posts that derail any sense of logical communication.
Companies that run forums wonder why people are moving in droves to facebook and other social media outlets.....it's actually their own doing for not paying attention and moderating threads correctly. Break up the flow, make it hard to follow, make it irritating to read and people move on....especially with so many other options out there. Eventually enough people leave that it doesn't pay for the forum sponsors to advertise and the forum dies.
Here is a question to the moderators, would you allow somebody to post in Chinese?....because right now there's not much difference.
12-30-2017, 10:15 AM
#84
Drifting
I am coming from the mustang world, I am aware of the GT500. The Z06 will still be a better car and the ZR1 will be way better. The positives for the GT500 will be if it has the DCT and if it makes 800+ horsepower. I think it will be around ZR1 power with a manual and possible A10. It will be cool to have a mustang in Z/ZR1 territory.
12-30-2017, 10:54 AM
#85
Banned Scam/Spammer
The GT500 has nothing to do with ZR1 track records or what was being discussed. When has a GT500 ever competed with a track focused vette? You are completely disconnected from reality this is why your posts are gibberish. This is also proven by your comment that you get "thousands of views." What does that even mean? Since someone opens a thread you started it somehow validates your incoherent thoughts and incomplete sentences? You are quite delusional.
12-30-2017, 12:13 PM
#86
Le Mans Master
Thanks! ;)
The GT500 has nothing to do with ZR1 track records or what was being discussed. When has a GT500 ever competed with a track focused vette? You are completely disconnected from reality this is why your posts are gibberish. This is also proven by your comment that you get "thousands of views." What does that even mean? Since someone opens a thread you started it somehow validates your incoherent thoughts and incomplete sentences? You are quite delusional.
Due to its size and aero, again, I was thinking the ZO6's numbers to be more in jeopardy, never mind the more logical ZL1.
Why!? Again - aero, GT350 fiber wheels, and the thrashing the ZL1 put on the GT350.
I think that's it for now.
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12-30-2017, 04:10 PM
#87
Race Director
I had pancakes this morning....
01-16-2018, 11:35 AM
#88
Le Mans Master
These guys think it does! ;)
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/15/...-gt500-teaser/
Laguna Seca
37. Corvette Grand Sport Randy Pobst
1:35.62
38. Ford Shelby Mustang GT350R unknown
1:36.11
The only question I Still have is, "Where's the eLSD!?"
The McLaren same - same!
RWD - Ring - eLSD!!!!!
The 458 Italia set a benchmark for chassis dynamics. The 488 GTB sets the bar even higher. The latest generation of Ferrari’s E-Diff and F1-Trac systems are seamlessly integrated with its second-generation side slip control system, SSC2. But here’s the really clever bit: SSC2 now also controls the damping rates for the MagneRide shocks, stiffening or soften their damping rates in response the car’s slip angle.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...-drive-review/
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01-16-2018, 09:41 PM
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Do you guys realize just how impressive that 1:55.95 is that he turned on VIR Full? Just look at the Z06 fast list and see what us mere mortal "advanced" drivers turn. None of us are even close. Jim may not be a "pro" but I bet he's got an understanding and confidence level with that chassis that nobody else does.
I agree and wouldn't you say the line is being blurred between driver skill levels (i.e. Mero vs Milner) with technology as Milner shows below?
https://youtu.be/e9RVZkjZkek
https://youtu.be/e9RVZkjZkek
01-31-2018, 09:17 PM
#90
The part where you LOL about it getting the time back with a simple update sounds kinda funny now that it did exactly that running a 2:39.77, just saying. ...and ZR1 running a 2:37.25
October issue
Chevy’s team uses a different track configuration than we do for Lightning Lap but says the ZR1 laps VIR 2.5 seconds quicker than a Z06. If we can replicate that performance on the longer Grand West Course, the ZR1 should set a new Lightning Lap record.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-hp-vette-news
SEMA October 31 (2:29.77!?)
https://youtu.be/A-hKgeEy9xw
4.2 Grand Course 1.50s faster than 2:41.32. So 2:39.77 - 2.5 = 2:37.27; the C6 ZO6 was 4.25s faster than the C5 ZO6 at Willow; but, the ZO6 is getting most of this back with a simple software upgrade (ZR1 Level!?) in a month - LOL
2:37.27(157.27s)/X = 2:40.02(160.02s)/7:01.3(421.3s)
X=6:54.06(414.06s); beats the 918
Chevy’s team uses a different track configuration than we do for Lightning Lap but says the ZR1 laps VIR 2.5 seconds quicker than a Z06. If we can replicate that performance on the longer Grand West Course, the ZR1 should set a new Lightning Lap record.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-hp-vette-news
SEMA October 31 (2:29.77!?)
https://youtu.be/A-hKgeEy9xw
4.2 Grand Course 1.50s faster than 2:41.32. So 2:39.77 - 2.5 = 2:37.27; the C6 ZO6 was 4.25s faster than the C5 ZO6 at Willow; but, the ZO6 is getting most of this back with a simple software upgrade (ZR1 Level!?
) in a month - LOL2:37.27(157.27s)/X = 2:40.02(160.02s)/7:01.3(421.3s)
X=6:54.06(414.06s); beats the 918
01-31-2018, 10:22 PM
#91
Le Mans Master
Funny! ;)
The GM team is backing up their numbers, like it or not!2:37.25(157.25s)/6:54.01(414.01s) = X/6:47.3(407.3s)
X=2:34.7; Next GT2 RS!? 'DO THE MATH!'
Most importantly will be if the test drivers can get anything close to this 2.55s gap out of a 911 at this track!
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/hockenheim-short
That said, the GT2 RS still requires your full attention when you let loose that mighty engine.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...t-test-review/
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/6kdkb0dfz8on
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02-01-2018, 12:39 PM
#92
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The 1LE 7:16 too! The GM team is backing up their numbers, like it or not!
2:37.25(157.25s)/6:54.01(414.01s) = X/6:47.3(407.3s)
X=2:34.7; Next GT2 RS!? 'DO THE MATH!'
Most importantly will be if the test drivers can get anything close to this 2.55s gap out of a 911 at this track!
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/hockenheim-short
That said, the GT2 RS still requires your full attention when you let loose that mighty engine.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...t-test-review/
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/6kdkb0dfz8on
The GM team is backing up their numbers, like it or not!2:37.25(157.25s)/6:54.01(414.01s) = X/6:47.3(407.3s)
X=2:34.7; Next GT2 RS!? 'DO THE MATH!'
Most importantly will be if the test drivers can get anything close to this 2.55s gap out of a 911 at this track!
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/hockenheim-short
That said, the GT2 RS still requires your full attention when you let loose that mighty engine.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...t-test-review/
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/6kdkb0dfz8on
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02-01-2018, 07:52 PM
#93
I agree and wouldn't you say the line is being blurred between driver skill levels (i.e. Mero vs Milner) with technology as Milner shows below?
https://youtu.be/e9RVZkjZkek
https://youtu.be/e9RVZkjZkek
02-02-2018, 04:20 AM
#94
Melting Slicks
I don't think comparing the lap times of two cars on one track by using basic algebra is a great estimate of a car's lap time on a different track. Far more factors at play.
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02-03-2018, 12:21 AM
#96
02-03-2018, 04:43 AM
#97
Speculation is 772. Ford only said, 700+. Supercharged 5.2 In comparison, my '14 GT500 had 748rwhp (850ish crank)from the 5.8 with a pulley, off-road X and tune. 772 at crank from a 5.2 is going to be pushing it longevity wise. The 32v DOHC engines make so much more power for the size. If our 6.2was 32v DOHC, probably be 600 crank NA, 850 crank supercharged. That's only thing Ford does better than Chevy still. Ditch the pushrods already.
02-03-2018, 12:03 PM
#98
No need to convince me of DOHC, I've been a fan for 20+ years.
I have always felt the GM 6.2L, considering its displacement, is a little light in terms of power.
IIRC, before the MB big-time switch to turbos recently, AMG had a 6.2L DOHC NA that made 622 HP.
I have always felt the GM 6.2L, considering its displacement, is a little light in terms of power.
IIRC, before the MB big-time switch to turbos recently, AMG had a 6.2L DOHC NA that made 622 HP.
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02-05-2018, 09:25 PM
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Speculation is 772. Ford only said, 700+. Supercharged 5.2 In comparison, my '14 GT500 had 748rwhp (850ish crank)from the 5.8 with a pulley, off-road X and tune. 772 at crank from a 5.2 is going to be pushing it longevity wise. The 32v DOHC engines make so much more power for the size. If our 6.2was 32v DOHC, probably be 600 crank NA, 850 crank supercharged. That's only thing Ford does better than Chevy still. Ditch the pushrods already.
Bill