SS717 M7 ZR1 went 10’s!
04-20-2018, 01:31 AM
#61
Melting Slicks
All bunk!
The C7 Z06 is near 400lbs with higher gear over the C6 Z06. The ZR1 is lighter as well. Both should out 60ft the heavier C7Z06 car.
The M7 stock 60ft times I discounted due to the honor system of the fast list.
I had 2 C6 z06's and the ZR1 and two C7 z06's I know the cars !
The C7 Z06 is near 400lbs with higher gear over the C6 Z06. The ZR1 is lighter as well. Both should out 60ft the heavier C7Z06 car.
The M7 stock 60ft times I discounted due to the honor system of the fast list.
I had 2 C6 z06's and the ZR1 and two C7 z06's I know the cars !
Power to weight ratio is much more important than just weight for 60' time. So yes a C6 ZR1 should have slightly advantage over a C7 Z06 but the C7 ZR1 has an advantage over both. For getting traction at a launch more weight is an advantage.
It is real convenient for you just to discount times because they don't fit your narrative. First it is the drivers lying, then it is the track prep, or the mind shaft air(funny since none of the traps were that high).
Think more!
Like the fastest tracks with great prep mine shaft air and a one OFF RUN has anything to do with what most all cars are doing
Like the fastest tracks with great prep mine shaft air and a one OFF RUN has anything to do with what most all cars are doing
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04-20-2018, 02:06 AM
#62
Team Owner
Just because you put an ! at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
Power to weight ratio is much more important than just weight for 60' time. So yes a C6 ZR1 should have slightly advantage over a C7 Z06 but the C7 ZR1 has an advantage over both. For getting traction at a launch more weight is an advantage.
It is real convenient for you just to discount times because they don't fit your narrative. First it is the drivers lying, then it is the track prep, or the mind shaft air(funny since none of the traps were that high).
I like how one off, in this case, has three instances. 100% of the M7s on the list have run a 1.7x 60' or better. Yep that is one off. Now I am not trying to say every M7 is going to run 1.7s all the time. It is going to take a skilked driver who has taken the time to figure out the launch and a track with good prep. It is not going to happen all the time but it will happen many more times than the never that you claim.
Power to weight ratio is much more important than just weight for 60' time. So yes a C6 ZR1 should have slightly advantage over a C7 Z06 but the C7 ZR1 has an advantage over both. For getting traction at a launch more weight is an advantage.
It is real convenient for you just to discount times because they don't fit your narrative. First it is the drivers lying, then it is the track prep, or the mind shaft air(funny since none of the traps were that high).
I like how one off, in this case, has three instances. 100% of the M7s on the list have run a 1.7x 60' or better. Yep that is one off. Now I am not trying to say every M7 is going to run 1.7s all the time. It is going to take a skilked driver who has taken the time to figure out the launch and a track with good prep. It is not going to happen all the time but it will happen many more times than the never that you claim.
The 400 pounds less of the C6Z06 is huge advantage that's is why my friends Z06 with 500 rwhp is barely slower than my C7Z06 with 136 RWHP more.
He sixty ft's better too!
The C7 Z06 is not a easy car on stock rubber to do a 1.7
Don't you think?
Since several hundred or more members have run their cars at track over 3 years now and only
the 3 showed on the list! YEP PRETTY MUCH 1 OFF AND all 3 1.7's or better on the list are NOT confirmed.
Make sure you post up when you do it! Stop living in the C6 world and trying to compare
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-20-2018 at 02:11 AM.
04-20-2018, 10:01 AM
#63
This low wing car has Pilot SS tires on it.. anyone have any experience with how those tires hook up vs the Pilot Cup2 tires that come with the ZTK package?
04-20-2018, 10:34 AM
#64
Le Mans Master
That's a great ET. The car is definitely bad-assed. I certainly don't understand all the hate for this guy. The videos might be a tad long but otherwise are pretty entertaining. Keep 'em coming! Love the new ZR1. 
04-20-2018, 12:23 PM
#65
Team Owner
How can you be running down a car when you aren't going as fast!! The A8 is still pulling away until the M7 reaches the MPH the A8 is going, only then does it finally stops the A8s pull. At that point (if it reaches it, and no telling how far back it is, I'd guess 1/8th of a mile) it will start making ground if it is accelerating faster.
That stops the pull!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-20-2018 at 12:35 PM.
04-20-2018, 12:34 PM
#66
Team Owner
It is now a not case if you like the ZR1 or not. It is now turned in to, if you don't drink every bit of this guys KOOLAID a few here take it personal get VERY ANGRY then they jump to call you a hater!
It is HILARIOUS!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-20-2018 at 12:34 PM.
04-20-2018, 12:39 PM
#67
Actually they are two separate mathematical things going on here. Speed is one thing.. rate of acceleration is another. As long as the front car is covering more ground per second (higher speed) than the second car, the front car will still be pulling away from the 2nd car, regardless of the 2nd cars acceleration rate. Only when the 2nd car’s speed exceeds the speed of front car will the gap begin to close.
04-20-2018, 04:54 PM
#68
Team Owner
Actually they are two separate mathematical things going on here. Speed is one thing.. rate of acceleration is another. As long as the front car is covering more ground per second (higher speed) than the second car, the front car will still be pulling away from the 2nd car, regardless of the 2nd cars acceleration rate. Only when the 2nd car’s speed exceeds the speed of front car will the gap begin to close.
04-20-2018, 06:34 PM
#69
Race Director
As long as the front car is covering more ground per second (higher speed) than the second car, the front car will still be pulling away from the 2nd car, regardless of the 2nd cars acceleration rate. Only when the 2nd car’s speed exceeds the speed of front car will the gap begin to close.
That's what I said and you responded with-
Last edited by tail_lights; 04-20-2018 at 06:52 PM.
04-20-2018, 06:47 PM
#70
Race Director
I agree with your point, the A8 still out mph it in the 1/4.
My point is that the M7 really shines on the back half of the track, just look at the difference in mph increase. The M7 is making up a lot of ground on the A8
If both cars were on Drag Radials the M7 would be a lot closer, the M7 is not going to beat a same configured/mods A8 in a 1/4 race.
A roll race from 50mph would be interesting!
My point is that the M7 really shines on the back half of the track, just look at the difference in mph increase. The M7 is making up a lot of ground on the A8
If both cars were on Drag Radials the M7 would be a lot closer, the M7 is not going to beat a same configured/mods A8 in a 1/4 race.
A roll race from 50mph would be interesting!
The A8 disadvantage
Well, let me explain what I mean.... On paper from these two runs it seems that the M7 is really coming alive in the back half of the 1/4 (vs the A8 I am meaning, obviously the M7 does have a great backhalf). I think (know?? LOL) that if the A8 were on street tires it would have trapped less in the 1/8 and probably would have a great 1/4 trap speed but since it did 110 in the 1/8 well, we know it isn't picking up 31 mph and trapping 141 (YET... LOL.. see post above). Had the auto not had a good 60 foot and insane 1/8 I think the overall trap would have still been well into the 130s and thus making it apparent that the A8 is nowhere near running out of steam.
04-20-2018, 09:36 PM
#71
Team Owner
04-21-2018, 07:17 PM
#74
No one here didn't say it wasn't? So what was your point??
Mike knows that. He has a 2017 Z06 Pro charged auto with over 900hp also. Haters, just don't get it? We all drive a Corvette here on the forum.
We should be happy and supportive when someone hits any kind of milestone! So I'll say it Good Job, Mike
Mike knows that. He has a 2017 Z06 Pro charged auto with over 900hp also. Haters, just don't get it? We all drive a Corvette here on the forum.
We should be happy and supportive when someone hits any kind of milestone! So I'll say it Good Job, Mike
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04-21-2018, 07:44 PM
#75
The stock C7 z06 m7 is way off the ZR1's pace. The 60ft here is the difference and not sure what tire he used. Hard to say since the list is on the honor system. He may have had tires and not said.
His 60ft is way better than the normal.
The stock Z06 manual is not that quick. His time is all from the 60ft
The Z06 left a lot on the table you can do. The z06 goes fast with a few mods. The cars are mostly the same. The ZR1 right now is non tunable and till that gets cracked.
The ZR1 is limited
We all drive Corvettes! We should be supportive! Not jealous haters!
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