MacMulkin ZR1 on the floor
06-03-2018, 06:16 AM
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What percentage of ZR1's do you think are going to be tracked or tracked hard enough to where it's the transmission that's making or breaking their laptime? The same hot shots setting the fastest lap times in the auto could drive the manual and easily beat the vast majority of auto ZR1 owners.
06-03-2018, 06:19 AM
#22
You found it ironic that the autos could be slow sellers since that's the transmission that pros (or near pros) have been setting the fastest lap times in. My point is that those lap times probably don't mean much to the vast majority of buyers. Not only would the pros beat most ZR1 owners while driving a Z06... they could do it with a Z51.
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06-03-2018, 06:29 AM
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You found it ironic that the autos could be slow sellers since that's the transmission that pros (or near pros) have been setting the fastest lap times in. My point is that those lap times probably don't mean much to the vast majority of buyers. Not only would the pros beat most ZR1 owners while driving a Z06... they could do it with a Z51.
06-03-2018, 06:32 AM
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06-03-2018, 06:43 AM
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06-03-2018, 06:47 AM
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06-03-2018, 08:21 AM
#27
Melting Slicks
Until it is known that there was a computer 'glitch' then the "Reliable price' should be considered legit.
Maybe the "original' owner, that the car was ordered for, bailed when it was time to pay up, and that's why it's available.
Until one actually knows the "facts", one shouldn't be calling a business a "bait and switch" operation.
If you are really a "buyer" then you wouldn't be wasting time on this forum, but would have already called Reliable with your credit card to give them a deposit, until you can show up next week with the remainder of the money and drive the car off their lot, just in case they are discounting the car.
Maybe the "original' owner, that the car was ordered for, bailed when it was time to pay up, and that's why it's available.
Until one actually knows the "facts", one shouldn't be calling a business a "bait and switch" operation.
If you are really a "buyer" then you wouldn't be wasting time on this forum, but would have already called Reliable with your credit card to give them a deposit, until you can show up next week with the remainder of the money and drive the car off their lot, just in case they are discounting the car.
So yes Joe, bait and switch. And yes Joe unscrupulous. Any dealer that's willing to sell a ZR1 at $15K off MSRP, please PM me. Not that it matters yet, but I am GMS eligible. Lightly used 2016 Callaway Z06 3LZ for trade purchased from MacMulkin 9/16.
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06-03-2018, 09:59 AM
#28
Team Owner
^^^ So, the car they showed on their website, #412, was actually priced at close to $14,000 off MSRP and was sold for $130,XXX. Is that what you were told by Reliable?
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06-03-2018, 10:47 AM
#29
Melting Slicks
Joe, how about you carry on with another pissing contest elsewhere, I believe we've answered all your questions and sliding off your high horse, although painful, is long overdue. I accept your apology for being wrong about Reliable and wrong about me being a 'real buyer'. Feel free to carry-on if you wish as I now have you as the sole member on my ignore list.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
06-03-2018, 10:52 AM
#30
Team Owner
Joe, how about you carry on with another pissing contest elsewhere, I believe we've answered all your questions and sliding off your high horse, although painful, is long overdue. I accept your apology for being wrong about Reliable and wrong about me being a 'real buyer'. Feel free to carry-on if you wish as I now have you as the sole member on my ignore list.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
I asked a simple question. Why don't you answer it without getting personal.
Did Reliable sell #412 for the price they advertised?
06-03-2018, 11:12 AM
#31
Joe, how about you carry on with another pissing contest elsewhere, I believe we've answered all your questions and sliding off your high horse, although painful, is long overdue. I accept your apology for being wrong about Reliable and wrong about me being a 'real buyer'. Feel free to carry-on if you wish as I now have you as the sole member on my ignore list.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
Now back on topic. I'm a buyer, especially at $15K off MSRP. Reliable of Springfield, MO will never get my business and especially not with the way they handled this. Matt and John know better than to handle their internet listings this way. It's the quickest, most efficient way to **** off potential buyers. Suggest that others stick with known, honest, legitimate dealers like MacMulkin or Criswell that don't engage in these tactics.
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06-03-2018, 11:24 AM
#32
Melting Slicks
Yup MacMulkin was great to work with including shipping my car to Callaway. Tommy and TEAM handled everything professionally. Always appreciate dealers that do that and no surprise "documentation fees" or "market adjustments".
06-03-2018, 11:48 AM
#33
Le Mans Master
06-03-2018, 12:16 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
You found it ironic that the autos could be slow sellers since that's the transmission that pros (or near pros) have been setting the fastest lap times in. My point is that those lap times probably don't mean much to the vast majority of buyers. Not only would the pros beat most ZR1 owners while driving a Z06... they could do it with a Z51.
06-03-2018, 01:15 PM
#36
Team Owner
I saw it when the first C5's came out. I saw it when the first C6's came out. I saw it when the first C7's came out. Some people just can't accept the fact that some people are able to buy a new release car for less than MSRP. At this point in time, you do have to look for that deal, just as those of us that wanted a new C5 and a new C6 when the dealers were asking over MSRP for them, and we were able to get ours for under MSRP.
06-03-2018, 01:17 PM
#37
Team Owner
06-03-2018, 01:22 PM
#38
Team Owner
Can you tell me the actual "selling" price of each and every 2019 ZR1 that has been sold so far. By your post, you seem to claim you know that.
Otherwise, how would you know what #412 sold far? Maybe you and Warren Buffet are close buddies and he told you what his dealership sold #412 for when you and he had dinner together last night?
06-03-2018, 04:20 PM
#39
Melting Slicks
Why would anyone trust anything Reliable says? Answers beyond - "is there a car available for the advertised price you have on your internet site or not?" - are irrelevant. We've already established that Reliable is not....
Last edited by cvp33; 06-03-2018 at 06:33 PM.
06-03-2018, 08:59 PM
#40
Melting Slicks
I know is not the same but I bought my 2009 z 3lz from Reliable at 22k under MSRP