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Old 07-25-2018, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jam421
A dyno tuner who worked on more than a few Corvettes in our area told me the 650HP C7 Z06 was not so formidable in stock form but with some bolt ons, headers and a good tune made some really big power, some in the 750FWHP range. I imagine the same may someday be said about the new ZR1....which is already very fast...but with some bolt ons, headers and a good tune ??? Wow.
The main difference here is the dual fuel injection system. To get to 1000rwhp on a Z06 you have to add port injection... The ZR1 already has it! When the ECU is cracked you will see 1000rwhp ZR1s in a couple days at FAR LESS cost than making the same with a Z06. Time will tell. That is 100% NOT the reason I bought a ZR1 but for those out there that want to go crazy the ZR1 is the car to work with and every credible tuning shop will agree.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Just a little off base! The Zr1 is 125k in 1lz and the 2019 Z06 1lz sits at 82,500 but can be purchased at several dealers for 73k So the price is more like 40-50 k less, not counting more tax on the ZR1
Most Z06 owners prefer the Z06 look by a wide margin. I have only seen a couple threads of TALK and seriously is a joke to add a ZR1 front on a Z06. Sought after HAHA! More Z06 owners dislike the ZR1 front end and wing than do.
Have you seen this thread? Looks like a fair amount of interest in less than 24hrs... I get it though, some Z06 owners are a little upset cuz theres a new, bigger, badder kid on the block. I probably would be too, thats why I cancelled my Z06 order after the ZR1 unveiling. Glad I did

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Old 07-25-2018, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver
Have you seen this thread? Looks like a fair amount of interest in less than 24hrs... I get it though, some Z06 owners are a little upset cuz theres a new, bigger, badder kid on the block. I probably would be too, thats why I cancelled my Z06 order after the ZR1 unveiling. Glad I did

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A buyer is spending 30k for the presence, the design, the sound, the aero and the track capability. If all you care about it roll racing or the drag strip, then buy a base Stingray and put a supercharger on it and save yourself even more money. Jalopnik writers are just that...writers, blabber mouths...saying you pay 30k for a foot of breaking distance just pours ignorance.
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Originally Posted by charles7970
Something is wrong with that ZR1. There is no way it should be walked by a AMG GTR. Sorry. Those cars trap like 127. ZR1 is a 131-133 car.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo


1st world problems. Maybe the z06 owner thinking about trading up to a zr1 is better off investing that money in a bathroom remodel with tall toilets and walk in tubs in preparation fo their old age.

not quite, i personally have absolutely 0 interest in buying or trading up to a ZR1. I did it from the C7 Stingray to the Z06 and it was worth it. Next trade would be the C8 if it's as revolutionary as I think it could be.
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At this point after watching all these videos, that guy definitely doesn't know how to drive. He's paddle shifting for one lol when he should leave it in Drive and hes using launch control which sucks on Vettes. Not to mention that it seems like he ran the car all day..with back to back races.

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Have you seen this thread? Looks like a fair amount of interest in less than 24hrs... I get it though, some Z06 owners are a little upset cuz theres a new, bigger, badder kid on the block. I probably would be too, thats why I cancelled my Z06 order after the ZR1 unveiling. Glad I did

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Originally Posted by Ted P
and you likely won't as people are reticent to say the extra $30,000 wasn't worth it. The ZR1 is a better car than the Z06 but just not $30,000 better from what I've seen
My C6 ZR1 had a sticker of $130K with the engine build experience (about $5K). My C7 ZR1 with ZTK had a sticker of $139K. These cars couldn't be more different. It's astounding that the delta is only $15K in 7 years.

Both of my C7 Z06's had sticker's in the $110K range and I can definitely see why the ZR is $30K more. I guess if you don't own one, you couldn't possibly understand.
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The ZR1 is a beast. BUT, it is TOO DAMN HEAVY. Dual clutch, and less weight, and the competition has NO chance.
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it's weight, trans delays, doesn't plant the power to ground and aero are its biggest challenges. Facts.
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I'll take that bet... the Huracan is stock. the 720S is stock as well, it came with the regular exhaust, the optional OEM sport version of the exhaust was swapped from another 720S...





Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
I would bet the Huracan is not stock. The ame guy has the Mac 720 and it is not stock it has the sport exhaust which is like a full header on our cars..

The ZR1 needs the DCS controller to get some traction off the line and the roll was close but the ZR1 driver also has marginal shifting.. My Z06 would have no problem with either on the roll.

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Originally Posted by UnhandledException

We will come back to this forum 1 year from today and revisit where zr1 is in terms of feedback of the owners as well as how much its going for.
You promise not to come back for a year?
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Originally Posted by charles7970
it's weight, trans delays, doesn't plant the power to ground and aero are its biggest challenges. Facts.
And some heat soak.
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Ok, so when the Lambo gets on a twisty track with a ZR1 and the Z blows it away then many of the Hurican fans will say the Lambo's a POS, can't even beat a mass production GM product that's half (or at least a great deal less expensive) the price of the Lambo. If there are excuses to be made they should be directed at the Lambo. For the price of the friggin thing, it should be able to beat the Corvette in all parameters, race track, quarter mile, etc. not just a straight line, which the ZR1 is not made exclusively for, it's a track car. These videos are interesting because they show two super powerful cars going head to head, albeit in one dimension, in a straight line race, and the Lambo is undoubtedly impressive in that regard, but please, it's only one facet of a cars overall performance. The Vette is clearly the more impressive car in it's good, old fashioned American ingenuity and superb engineering. The technological achievement is much more impressive with the Vette when you narrow it down: GM has produced a mass production car, without the stratospheric price tag, that can beat many supercars in the arena for which it, and many other supercars, where designed for, the Race Track! Moreover, the Vette is easier and less costly to service and maintain, meaning, more wheel time on the track, cruising the boulevards or just plain driving for fun. To put it simply, GM has built a better product for far less money. I'm not here to beat on the Lambo, it's a really neat car and impressive, but please, let's look at the whole picture when judging a car's performance.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jam421
heavychevy.....based strictly on that video....are we saying the manual Z06 stayed better vs the Lambo vs the ZR1?
Maybe a tad better. But pretty close. Which is still unacceptable. The ZR1 as presented in the track videos is Far faster than a Z06, from any speed.
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Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver
Have you seen this thread? Looks like a fair amount of interest in less than 24hrs... I get it though, some Z06 owners are a little upset cuz theres a new, bigger, badder kid on the block. I probably would be too, thats why I cancelled my Z06 order after the ZR1 unveiling. Glad I did

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Not wanting to get in pissing contest. But most Z06 are very happy in there own cars. The only one you have to justify spending on a ZR1 is you. I will say my M7 Z06 1lz made 673 rwhp on the exact same Mustang dyno as Weapon X has and there bone stock ZR1 made 640rwhp I have about 8800 in mods plus I weight about 200 pounds lighter at 3450. Plus I will have the M7 and both with the A8 version as well both with 800 hp!

My A8 I weighed at 3500 full of fuel. I canceled my order before I made it!
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What I would like to see is a race between a Z and ZR1

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