Automobile Magazine and it's Comparison Test
10-24-2018, 12:47 PM
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Automobile Magazine and it's Comparison Test
This is for all those ZR1 aficinados who feel depressed over Car and Drivers Best Drivers Car results. Automobile Magazine tested the Porsche 911 GT2RS, McLaren 720, and ZR1 against each other on the road and also the NCM track. Andy Pilgrim was driving. He was fastest in the Porsche (no surprise there), slowest in the McLaren, and about 2 seconds slower than the Porsche with the ZR1.
But, several weeks before he had lapped a manual transmission ZR1 on what at the time was the track record which was only 0.3 seconds slower than what he ultimately turned with the Porsche. While you could argue that the difference on the calender nullifies the results, track conditions can change literally by the minute (watch Indy Car qualifying if you don't believe that), so that argument can be made even if the tests were on the same day.
So, on a given track with a professional driver, the ZR1 on at least one occasion was very close to the Porsche, which I think shows its' potential. And they liked the Corvette better on the street.
But, several weeks before he had lapped a manual transmission ZR1 on what at the time was the track record which was only 0.3 seconds slower than what he ultimately turned with the Porsche. While you could argue that the difference on the calender nullifies the results, track conditions can change literally by the minute (watch Indy Car qualifying if you don't believe that), so that argument can be made even if the tests were on the same day.
So, on a given track with a professional driver, the ZR1 on at least one occasion was very close to the Porsche, which I think shows its' potential. And they liked the Corvette better on the street.
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10-31-2018, 12:21 PM
I only read magazine articles for entertainment. They do not and have never influenced my car buying decisions!.....and never will.
10-24-2018, 01:33 PM
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10-24-2018, 02:31 PM
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This is for all those ZR1 aficinados who feel depressed over Car and Drivers Best Drivers Car results. Automobile Magazine tested the Porsche 911 GT2RS, McLaren 720, and ZR1 against each other on the road and also the NCM track. Andy Pilgrim was driving. He was fastest in the Porsche (no surprise there), slowest in the McLaren, and about 2 seconds slower than the Porsche with the ZR1.
But, several weeks before he had lapped a manual transmission ZR1 on what at the time was the track record which was only 0.3 seconds slower than what he ultimately turned with the Porsche. While you could argue that the difference on the calender nullifies the results, track conditions can change literally by the minute (watch Indy Car qualifying if you don't believe that), so that argument can be made even if the tests were on the same day.
So, on a given track with a professional driver, the ZR1 on at least one occasion was very close to the Porsche, which I think shows its' potential. And they liked the Corvette better on the street.
But, several weeks before he had lapped a manual transmission ZR1 on what at the time was the track record which was only 0.3 seconds slower than what he ultimately turned with the Porsche. While you could argue that the difference on the calender nullifies the results, track conditions can change literally by the minute (watch Indy Car qualifying if you don't believe that), so that argument can be made even if the tests were on the same day.
So, on a given track with a professional driver, the ZR1 on at least one occasion was very close to the Porsche, which I think shows its' potential. And they liked the Corvette better on the street.
10-24-2018, 03:11 PM
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Great article. The only error I see in it is the reference to the Cup 2R tires on the GT2RS being essentially the same as the ZR1's ZP Cup 2's. They are vastly superior. To quote Michelin: "The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R delivers 30% more power than the previous generation, saving an average of 0.5 seconds every kilometre around the track (Nardo Circuit in Italy)."
10-25-2018, 12:59 PM
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It would be interesting to see the times if all three wore Sport Cup 2's. I'm sure in the McLaren forums they are going crazy over the lesser Pirelli's used resulting in poorer track times all over the place.
10-25-2018, 02:12 PM
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I dont think think mclaren guys give a **** about magazine articles. If all it takes is switching tires for the Mclaren, I'm sure those guys will have several sets whenever they hit the road course.
Street encounters it will not be close tho.
Street encounters it will not be close tho.
10-27-2018, 09:16 AM
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Race Director
It's Motor Trend "Best Drivers Car", not Car and Driver.
10-28-2018, 12:56 PM
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Porsche needed a track test win...plain and simple...
the car magazines allowed them with the tire differential..
besides at the end of every generation of corvettes another brand has to take the crown..
then when the new generation corvettereveals next year..
the magazine can pile on the accolades on the magazine covers for the latest and greatest corvette
the car magazines allowed them with the tire differential..
besides at the end of every generation of corvettes another brand has to take the crown..
then when the new generation corvettereveals next year..
the magazine can pile on the accolades on the magazine covers for the latest and greatest corvette
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10-28-2018, 01:56 PM
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10-30-2018, 07:35 PM
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Mc Laren 720s is on another level.And way more expensive.Same goes for the GT 2 Rs.Drive them and there is a reason they cost so much more than a Zr1.
10-30-2018, 07:54 PM
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10-30-2018, 10:36 PM
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Idk how anyone could argue that the ZR1 isn't the best bang for the buck performance bargain when comparing cars at THAT level.
the Z06 had that honor but is not as quick on the street or track and nothing comes close to the ZR1 until you get to McLaren 570s territory or 911 Turbo. And neither of those are track cars (extreme like the ZR)
having said that nothing compares to the bargain 67k you could buy a new Z06 for which is by far the performance bargain probably of our lifetime given the ZR1 is holding at msrp and beyond..
But in that scenario of supercars - the ZR1 is the bargain supreme for performance imo.
the Z06 had that honor but is not as quick on the street or track and nothing comes close to the ZR1 until you get to McLaren 570s territory or 911 Turbo. And neither of those are track cars (extreme like the ZR)
having said that nothing compares to the bargain 67k you could buy a new Z06 for which is by far the performance bargain probably of our lifetime given the ZR1 is holding at msrp and beyond..
But in that scenario of supercars - the ZR1 is the bargain supreme for performance imo.
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10-31-2018, 12:21 PM
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I only read magazine articles for entertainment. They do not and have never influenced my car buying decisions!.....and never will.
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