First track days
02-07-2019, 05:27 PM
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First track days
I'm registered for my first track weekend at Porsche St. Louis High Performance Driver Education event at Gateway, first weekend of April. Was happy to confirm that my convertible has acceptable factory rollover protection and won't need to add anything. Still need a race seat, not for safety, but for head/helmet clearance.
02-07-2019, 11:10 PM
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Interesting, NCCC does not allow convertibles without rollbars for high speed events.
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02-09-2019, 10:01 PM
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I'm registered for my first track weekend at Porsche St. Louis High Performance Driver Education event at Gateway, first weekend of April. Was happy to confirm that my convertible has acceptable factory rollover protection and won't need to add anything. Still need a race seat, not for safety, but for head/helmet clearance.
02-11-2019, 12:21 PM
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Drifting
I'm registered for my first track weekend at Porsche St. Louis High Performance Driver Education event at Gateway, first weekend of April. Was happy to confirm that my convertible has acceptable factory rollover protection and won't need to add anything. Still need a race seat, not for safety, but for head/helmet clearance.
02-11-2019, 08:45 PM
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Ron Fellows ZR1 owners school at Spring Mtn Jan 25 &26. I just had the pics emailed to me today and noticed that in corner 9 I have pulled the left front off the pavement. Sunlight under it. The cars grip level absolutely amazed me. If you haven’t signed up yet, please do. You won’t regret it. Find out where the cars limits are safely.
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02-12-2019, 12:55 AM
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Cool picture, GREAT SCHOOL! 
02-12-2019, 05:39 PM
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That's a great pic but, the tire isn't off the pavement. The break in the shadow is the light going between the trailing edge of the splitter and the front of the tire, shining down. The shadow of the tire, attached to the ground can be seen as sun goes beneath the forward outer edge of the tire. The ZR1 won't lift a tire, there is plenty of chassis compliance and droop. When you see cars lifting front tire, it's a combination of a lot of roll stiffness and a twisting chassis...i.e. usually on older race cars. ZR1's aren't lifting inside tires, nor would you want it to.
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02-12-2019, 06:19 PM
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That's a great pic but, the tire isn't off the pavement. The break in the shadow is the light going between the trailing edge of the splitter and the front of the tire, shining down. The shadow of the tire, attached to the ground can be seen as sun goes beneath the forward outer edge of the tire. The ZR1 won't lift a tire, there is plenty of chassis compliance and droop. When you see cars lifting front tire, it's a combination of a lot of roll stiffness and a twisting chassis...i.e. usually on older race cars. ZR1's aren't lifting inside tires, nor would you want it to.
02-12-2019, 07:58 PM
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That's a great pic but, the tire isn't off the pavement. The break in the shadow is the light going between the trailing edge of the splitter and the front of the tire, shining down. The shadow of the tire, attached to the ground can be seen as sun goes beneath the forward outer edge of the tire. The ZR1 won't lift a tire, there is plenty of chassis compliance and droop. When you see cars lifting front tire, it's a combination of a lot of roll stiffness and a twisting chassis...i.e. usually on older race cars. ZR1's aren't lifting inside tires, nor would you want it to.
02-12-2019, 08:52 PM
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That's a great pic but, the tire isn't off the pavement. The break in the shadow is the light going between the trailing edge of the splitter and the front of the tire, shining down. The shadow of the tire, attached to the ground can be seen as sun goes beneath the forward outer edge of the tire. The ZR1 won't lift a tire, there is plenty of chassis compliance and droop. When you see cars lifting front tire, it's a combination of a lot of roll stiffness and a twisting chassis...i.e. usually on older race cars. ZR1's aren't lifting inside tires, nor would you want it to.
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02-12-2019, 09:49 PM
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02-12-2019, 09:55 PM
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I'm registered for my first track weekend at Porsche St. Louis High Performance Driver Education event at Gateway, first weekend of April. Was happy to confirm that my convertible has acceptable factory rollover protection and won't need to add anything. Still need a race seat, not for safety, but for head/helmet clearance.
02-14-2019, 01:07 AM
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Open Cars: Any make of car delivered with factory installed roll over protection meets the minimum standards for Porsche Club of America Driver Education events. In these cars the soft-top must be in the up position or the hard top installed. If the top is in the down position, an SFI and/or FIA approved arm restraint system* must be used. If a car DOES NOT have factory installed roll over protection, a roll bar or roll cage must be installed, which meets the "broomstick" rule (the driver's helmeted head is below a bar placed on top of the roll bar and windshield). Design, installation and materials of roll bars or cages and their installation must meet PCA Club Racing specifications, contained in Appendix A-Roll Cage Specifications of the PCA Club Racing Rules.
The person you talked to must not have realized you are not bringing a coupe. Even if they did let you participate you more than likely wouldn't get any instructors that will ride with you.
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02-14-2019, 09:49 AM
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02-14-2019, 10:05 AM
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OP I also agree you better have a good Plan B. I don't think they will let you track your Z as it sits now. Whatever you were told must have just been a mistake. I go to many of these events and that's safety rule #1 for Vert's. I've never seen them deviate from that at all.
02-14-2019, 09:39 PM
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Laps Inc let me track my C6 Callaway Grand Sport Vert a few years back at RA (to my surprise). No roll protection of any kind. Now I notice on Road America’s site for their own sponsored HPDE days, roll cages are required in drop tops. I think there may be different rules by different event sponsors. I must admit I felt a little foolish going a buck and a half with nothing but an umbrella over my head. 
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