Only1cannoli

May I refer y’all back to the myriad of prognosticators who opined that the Z just HAD TO HAVE twin turbo’s?

GM made a much bigger splash w/o them.

Not making a splash with the eRay is not happening and a single 83 would garner only negative attention from the automotive press … not gonna happen!

Full Disclosure: I’m on Stingray’s Future Variant List for one. The Z may be the last of a breed, but the new E will be the first of a new breed.

Lord willin’ and the crik don’t rise, I’ll live long enough to get one …. still waitin’ for my C8.

Z0HS1CK

I think regular eco-hybrids like a ford escape uses a very small battery pack.

For instance that ford escape can only do 37 miles of EV driving before it needs a recharge. So i can only imagine how small the battery is. Although i believe the on-board system (gas engine) can recharge the battery on the go in case you don't want to plug it in a power source whether on a 110v or a level 2.

msm859

The Ford Escape that can go 37 miles electric only is a PHEV and has an 118 hp electric motor and a 14.4 kWh battery. More evidence that a single 83 hp electric motor in a Corvette would be pathetic.

Z0HS1CK

Oh, i was trying to find specs on that i couldn't find it lol. Damn that does suck then if it is indeed a 118hp because i was watching topher on youtube accelerate the escape in EV only and it barely got to 50mph.

Ragtop 99

Having seen the splash GM made with the Z06, I agree that a single 83 HP isn't going to cut it. IDK if they would use twin 83 HP motors, but the car would would fly with that power.

The Z06 has 670 HP and I don't see them letting the E-ray overshadow the LT6. Can the electric motors be detuned (e.g., voltage or amperage reduced)? Twin 65 HP motors would put the car at or over 600 combined HP, which I think GM will want to hit, and not on paper challenge the z06's dominance.

Michael A

And it's possible that will be the last Corvette generation produced. Almost all Corvette buyers have said they are not interested in full BEV Corvette. If it doesn't sell, GM will cancel it, and that will be the end of an era. GM doesn't keep cars around that don't sell anymore.

msm859

The "good" news is that GM could use the twin 83 hp motors and it would still have a total "less" hp than the Z06 because the peak hp arrives at different rpm's. However, it would be quicker 0-60.

msm859

I hope that you are not coming up with that stat from this micro bubble forum. If the C9 comes out: 0-60 under 2 seconds, 350+ miles range, top speed 200 mph, best handling Corvette ever - GM will have zero problem selling all they can make.

Kodiak Bear

From GM's briefing last year

GM’s 62-kW induction EV motor will be used in all-wheel drive applications.

GM’s 180-kW, permanent magnet EV motor will be used for front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive

GM’s 255-kW, permanent magnet EV motor will be used for performance all-wheel drive and rear-wheel

If you look at post #30, you'll see that the assist all wheel drive is a much lower profile package and the 62-kW motor appears lighter because it doesn't use permeant magnets. Unless GM is hiding a packaging, which is more than possible, the 62-kW is the one. Now if the can mount two of them in the same type of low profile configuration, we've got a winner. The packaging of the others just doesn't seem to do the trick.

Or GM has another motor up its sleeve which is also possible but questionable.
"All are expected to offer excellent torque and power density, enabling a wide spectrum of vehicle types, from performance cars to work trucks."

Only1cannoli

Appreciate your response but I’m not seeing why the Z06 is King. It’s a complete departure and solidly in its own lane. To say that another C8 variant needs to walk 3 paces behind is self limiting and won’t create the splash GM will need to garner the interest it’s hoping to generate.
At least that’s what Is holding my interest for now. Time will tell.

Michael A

Very few Corvette owners want a two seater version of a heavy pig Tesla Plaid that is absolutely useless on back roads, the track, long trips, and eats tires for lunch. After a few hard acceleration runs, it's "yawn". They also don't want a car that gets slower and goes shorter distances every day you own the car whether it's used or not. Maybe the Tesla fanboys do, but most Corvette owners don't.

Let's hope the C9 is some sort of hybrid version that you can actually go places in, and has a reasonably priced battery that can be replaced easily when it takes a dump.

Savoy2001

Ya the fastest heaviest tank corvette you mean. Fast or not it will weigh a ridiculous amount and handle line all the other heavy *** ev’s. Ugh.

CDNZR

That's why they have the Stingray and Z06 for your traditional Corvette owners? Maybe they try to attract the Tesla fanboys and those don't want to pay $170K for NSX but like that platform? If GM is so concern about keeping the tradition, the C8 may still be a front engine configuration? I don't drive a Tesla or planning on buying one.

msm859

The Tesla Plaid is the Model S - a full size 4 door sedan. I trust GM will be able to build C9 BEV that weighs substantially less. The Tesla Model 3 Performance - a smaller 4 door sedan weighs @ 300 lbs more than the current C8 and can pull @ 1g. Again GM should be able to shave that weight difference pretty easily and have the C9 weigh no more than the current C8 while being a full BEV. Batteries are proving to last a whole lot longer than originally expected. Not sure what you are talking about with a car that gets slower and goes shorter distance every day you own the car?

Z0HS1CK

I think he means when the batteries overheat/losing charge in the process thus shortening the range overall.

My friends M3P, we did 4 pulls back to back to back to back. Well not necessarily but we got caught at 4 lights and we accelerated very hard from each light. We did not experience any warning from the screen saying about anything. I don't remember how much battery life we lost after those pulls but i'm suspecting maybe 5% total?

0-60 in M3P's are like 3.1-3.3. Consistently. That is VERY tough to beat in an ICE car.

CAlexio

Yes I agree. Just like high revving Porsche Gt3 can be slower than the 911 turbo, but still more agile lighter and better for the track, the eray c8 can be faster than z06... z06 lives in its own lane of track weapon.

Warp Ten

Well right now the the congress attached the electric refund to the BBB bill, which was defeated last month. I suspect this will be corrected in 2022..

JillyBean

[QUOTE=Michael A;1604529707]Very few Corvette owners want a two seater version of a heavy pig Tesla Plaid that is absolutely useless on back roads, the track, long trips, and eats tires for lunch. After a few hard acceleration runs, it's "yawn". They also don't want a car that gets slower and goes shorter distances every day you own the car whether it's used or not. Maybe the Tesla fanboys do, but most Corvette owners don't.

Let's hope the C9 is some sort of hybrid version that you can actually go places in, and has a reasonably priced battery that can be replaced easily when it takes a dump.[/QUOTE

Z06 is track weapon
eray will be the 0-60 winner. Perfect for majority who don’t track their vehicles. A lot of misinformation posted above as well. One of my 5 vehicles happens to be a 5000 lb model x P100D
a suv than will run sub 3 sec
tires never an issue- getting places never an issue- in 5 years of ownership maybe have lost 3% of range-
batteries taking a dump aren’t any concern. Have had zero problems. Had a 2017 NSX for a fun toy a few years back. Great car that didn’t sell. Mine had msrp 199K sitting on showroom floor and I walked out paying 127k.
Overall one of the better sports cars I’ve owned.

smoove7410

Interesting. This implies that it is a series hybrid rather than a parallel hybrid which most have been anticipating. This also implies electric drive units front and rear. Would this be wrapped in the widebody as well? This will sell very well, but I just hope that the range extender is kept quiet and doesn't make weird noises like the Fisker.

RapidC84B

Very interesting discussion.

The “GM” way to do it is the AWD assist motor up front with the LT2 in the back. Parts bin and KISS.

GS2017 brings up a far more radical option. Given his knowledge on the Z06, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s worked on this 2-cyl range extender already