sueobannon

All,
There is nothing like the sound of a beautiful engine firing up at the starting line. I was at the Monaco Grand Prix in Nice, france years ago. I had friends who were in the pitts. The engines were all firing up. Michele LeGrand, Paris, and the paris symphony did a 33 recording of the sounds of the grand prix. It is the symphony orchestra playing in the background while the engines are firing up on all pistons. Now, can you tell me, do you get a "charge" out of an electric car firing up?
No,
By the same token, one needs to listen to the different cars and how the door sound when you shut the door... all are different in sound.. if you listen regularly, you can learn to tell the cars by the sound of their doors being shut.

This is the trivia for the day1

Jeff V.

Monaco isn't in France.

Dads2kconvertible

It's a 24 min drive to the racetrack from Nice. She's close enough for me.

Buddhaman

And non-round taillights! Or non-pop-up headlights! Or fuel injection! Or any other changes! How about just not buying one? Might not stir your soul but could brown your pants.

aklim

I don't know. I already sold my soul to the devil so maybe my soul can't be stirred? My thought is that it is something you grew up with and made the association. So I grew up with loud exhaust noise being associated with performance motors because that was they way it WAS. WAS, not IS. Today's car can make more power with less much of the time but the association, like with Pavlov's Dog stays. Ring bell, dog drools.

Avanti

There's a C8 section here devoted to all this. Just sayin'...

cyclelady2016

All the supercars are going Hybrid. see La Ferrari on Top Gear on YouTube, still the great sound and mega torque. Think of it as an electric supercharger? Now full electric will eventually come. Just makes your gasser worth more someday.Food for thought .

aklim

Hybrid I can see but full electric, no. When the fuel stations with charge ports are as plentiful as gas and if they can get the charge time down to 10 minutes, you can have my gasser.

CraigStu

I am not a fan of electric cars either but....take a standard C8 w/ 495 hp and add 100-200hp buy using electric motors to power the front wheels and I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Chevy went to mid engine because at a certain HP level you need more weight on the rear wheels or you just spin them up. So then go to a higher HP level and you need all wheel drive or you just spin them up. I certainly don't know details but I could see that adding electric motors to drive the front wheels could be a simpler and lighter way to do that vs adding another drive shaft, another differential, and 2 axle shafts.

bobeast

This debate will eventually rank up there with automatic vs stick, NA vs Supercharged, or Ginger vs Maryanne. No consensus will be reached, and time will march on.

Meanmyz

The GM of today is not the GM that I grew up with. The same can be said of Disney. So it's change or get left behind? I am okay with the free market taking us where it will go. I am not okay with being pushed in a direction by a politically biased narrative. The fanboys will extol on the virtues of an electric Corvette. That is fine. Me? I don't care if an electric Corvette goes 0-60 in less than 1.1 seconds or will "rollover and wag it's tail. I will NEVER buy one. I feel this way as a Gen-Xer. If that is how bright our future is, I would rather the Corvette die with dignity, that let it become something it is not.

I certainly think more of Lloyd Reuss, than I do of son Mark, or Mary Barra.

aklim

Was that not the same argument made by the horse guy when he car came along?

I think it is easy to talk about death with dignity as long as it isn't your money. I believe the old guys felt that way about HD and the company heard it and took it into consideration too. How is that company doing in comparison to those that said "Screw the old guy. He won't be buying more than the new guy."?

Noblebro175

you can day that again. Owned a 15 and a 17 Silverado. Both suffered afm failure droppong lifter into camshaft. One was usa made, the other Mexican made. 70 yrs agp , technology didnt exist. Like anything in life , either adapt or be left behind. Remember Blockbuster Video when RedBox 1st came out.... In saying that and ehile im only 41 i grew up in muscle cars and at the drag strip... currently driving a 50mpg hybrid and joined here do proper research C5/C6's as I'd rather strive for 30mpg and be happy with what I'm driving. . I average 150-250 miles a day too , but again I'd rather have a 20yr old vette over a gas sipper. EV's are hella expensive to insure once one gets over the 60-100+k sticker price. . I will add that hitting 60 in under 3 seconds ,EVERYTIME without slicks or driver mod would be amazing. 10-11 strip times to boot. I hope GM makes the Eray....awd? Power by the truckload. I'd drive one any day.

aklim

How bad is the AFM failure? If we go by what you said, they should be littering the road every day every mile. It would be a bonanza for tow trucks and repair shops. What I am curious about is, catastrophic as they are when they happen, what is the percentage of failure that has no bearing in the user? Say at 100K, 200K, 300K. 20% failure rate at 100K is unacceptable. 1% is more acceptable. I see a lot of people with the failure but I see more vehicles driving around with them. I understand it is terrible when it happens to the person. What interests me more is the failure rate at some points that cannot be attributed to abuse or lack of maintenance.

Sure, the AWD is fantastic and I would prefer all my cars have that if I had a choice since I live where there is snow. That said, I don't like the "refueling" characteristics so I will pass if it is that or nothing. It simply won't fit my lifestyle in any way whether it is a Vette or a truck or a sedan.

Michael A

The difference some people here are missing with electric cars is electric cars are being forced on us by leftist governments and corporations, not because electric cars are somehow better. If electric cars were better than gasoline cars, the demand would be through the roof. In the first full year of production, Ford sold 559,451 Mustangs. In the first year of Camaro production, GM sold over 220,000 Camaros. There were no tax incentives. There was no free or discounted gasoline for buying them. You didn't get to drive in a special lane for buying one. The public wanted Mustangs and Camaros, and they bought them.

msm859

Specifically what are the names of these "leftist corporations"? GM? Ford? VW????? And the real question for Michael A. - Why do you continue to frequent the C8 ERay/HybridEV Discussion? You are rabidly anti EV and that's your choice. But this section is really for the people who are interested in the hybrid ERay and future EV Corvette. Not because anyone is forcing it on us, but because we want it for many reasons. I put my deposit down a year ago for the ERay - no expectation of any government subsidy. I bought a Tesla X 2 years ago - no one forced me. Once EV's reach price parity with their ICE counterpart, demand will be through the roof - yes they are that much better. The governor of California said you won't be able to buy a new ICE vehicle after 2035, I will predict it will be de facto sooner - by choice.

Meanmyz

No, THIS particular thread is anti EV and Michael "gets it". You on the other hand are in the wrong thread. There are other fanboy posts in this section (not this thread) for you to expound on the soulless joys of driving an elecric golf cart and of "saving the world". Maybe you can even start a new thread...the Corvette "crossover" seems to be creating some discussion lately...

California, huh? ...Makes sense.

CDNZR

Your statement is true if it were still in which ever section originally. But now it has been moved to the ERay/EV Section.
Will you EV guys please stop saving the world!!
Trade in your over size golf carts for an ICE golf carts and make sure you dump your used engine oil and what ever other household chemicals into the drain. We don't need you to save the world!

Sprayy

The Mach E is sold out for the next couple years. I can walk into a dealer and get a mustang or Camaro tomorrow. What's your point?

CDNZR

Just having some fun with the notion that all EV owners are all about saving the planet from the post above. That consensus is not accurate from my personal interaction with EV owners.