ERay gas mileage?
#21
The 45e will NOT charge in one hour. That is pure BS.
#22
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However, I must stand corrected. Apparently the BMW will only charge at a maximum of 3.7 kWh. So it could take 5 hours with a L2 home charger. https://evocharge.com/resources/vehi...-x5-xdrive45e/
But remember that is also going from 0 -100% charge. In real world that is rarely what anyone actually does.
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Exactly. Most PHEVs are just stupid. A guy where we live just bought an X5 45e which gets him a whopping 20 miles after a 10 hour charge which is absolutley ridiculous. A full charge that might get near 30 miles takes 17 hours! The 100HP electric motor takes his 6,000 lb BMW PHEV from 0-60 in 17 seconds which is totally unacceptable. He is obviously very dissatisfied with the vehicle but really had no idea what he was buying. Nothing more than a damn gimmick that comes with a nightmare of confounding complexity.
Todays PHEVs will be as laughable as "bag phones" in the near future.
Todays PHEVs will be as laughable as "bag phones" in the near future.
Funny my California Family; daughter, two granddaughters, grandson and their spouses are dedicated greenies! Respect their opinion but they don't my 8.2 Liter Street Rod and gas wasting Vette. Just thought, I'll put this pic of what I am going to buy (from the Build an E-Ray GM Website) on Facebook and tell them I've turned green. At least true when I use ~650 hp compared to a Z06!
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The driver has 100% control over his 0-60. He can go anywhere from 5.3 - 17 seconds - his choice. Not sure where you got the "stat" that "many" owners are attempting the 0-60 in 17 seconds? As to charging I said the owner needs to install a "L2" - Level 2 charger in his garage. No big deal. I have one for my Tesla X it adds over 30 miles per hour when charging.
However, I must stand corrected. Apparently the BMW will only charge at a maximum of 3.7 kWh. So it could take 5 hours with a L2 home charger. https://evocharge.com/resources/vehi...-x5-xdrive45e/
But remember that is also going from 0 -100% charge. In real world that is rarely what anyone actually does.
However, I must stand corrected. Apparently the BMW will only charge at a maximum of 3.7 kWh. So it could take 5 hours with a L2 home charger. https://evocharge.com/resources/vehi...-x5-xdrive45e/
But remember that is also going from 0 -100% charge. In real world that is rarely what anyone actually does.
I may try a non plug in hybrid at some point in the near future but will wait a while before going to a pure EV and skip the plug in hybrid which to me is just a bridge to a far better product. Lots of different ways to go here. Hopefully the damn government gets their nose out of it.
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But folks can tell their neighbors they are "green!"
Funny my California Family; daughter, two granddaughters, grandson and their spouses are dedicated greenies! Respect their opinion but they don't my 8.2 Liter Street Rod and gas wasting Vette. Just thought, I'll put this pic of what I am going to buy (from the Build an E-Ray GM Website) on Facebook and tell them I've turned green. At least true when I use ~650 hp compared to a Z06! ........
Funny my California Family; daughter, two granddaughters, grandson and their spouses are dedicated greenies! Respect their opinion but they don't my 8.2 Liter Street Rod and gas wasting Vette. Just thought, I'll put this pic of what I am going to buy (from the Build an E-Ray GM Website) on Facebook and tell them I've turned green. At least true when I use ~650 hp compared to a Z06! ........
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Well actually you are correct, compared to the Z06 you are "green" I suspect the city mileage might be 50% better and the highway/combined @ 33% better. You can let them know you are doing your part to reduce the worlds dependency on oil - not contributing to the demand for Russian oil who produces 12% of the world's oil.
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Originally Posted by wiso
I was replying to the persons desire for more MPG, then thinking about just getting a z car.
I was hoping for maybe like 10mpg better with the ERAY . I honestly didn't really look into it that much, heard the word battery, and figured that meant mpg magic. I'm still somewhere between 15-20 on my dealers list, so guess I still have a couple years to decide.
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I really do like what I've read so far on the new eRay and I was hoping to get an answer to one of my questions from this eRay Forum, but I couldn't see where anyone asked my question. I understand that the battery for the front wheels is small and only lasts for a short period of time. My question is how do you engage the front wheels only or how do you engage the full 650+ HP? In other words, if you were traveling down a highway or good 2 lane road at 50 MPH and ran into a horrendous rain storm and wanted to engage 4 wheel drive, how is this done? Or is the AWD feature always active and the battery continuously charges itself as you drive the car or just how does it work? Not necessarily the mechanical end, but how does it function or engage that 4 wheel drive system for the user? If you can only drive 2-3 miles in stealth (quiet) EV mode with no power from the V8 engine, how does one engage just that feature? Or, am I completely fowled up on understanding this feature...could be that! Thanks!
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QUOTE: Unlike most hybrids, it’s not really made for efficiency, although will get a little better city mileage than a standard Stingray at 16 mpg. But because of higher mass and air drag, it will do worse than the standard Corvette’s 24 mpg on the highway."
I posted in another Thread the drag number of the C7 wide body:
Base C7 = 0.30
Grand Sport = 0.35
Grand Sport Stage 2 Aero = 0.40 (which I had)
Grand Sport Stage 3 Aero = 0.50 (How could the Stage 3 Aero be that bad? Easy, both Stage 2 and 3 had height extensions on the real spoiler ends. Stage 3 added a clear plastic piece between the two that GM called a wickerbill. At 50 mph it would be like sticking a 6-inch wide 4-foot-long board out the window. Lots of drag force!)
So I'll predict 17/23/19! The same as the C8 in EPA Tests. 
Note your actual milage may vary. In some situations, much better City!
#34
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I am just quoting the AP reporter Tom Krisher who was talking with GM folks at the Reveal.
QUOTE: Unlike most hybrids, it’s not really made for efficiency, although will get a little better city mileage than a standard Stingray at 16 mpg. But because of higher mass and air drag, it will do worse than the standard Corvette’s 24 mpg on the highway."
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So I'll predict 17/23/19! The same as the C8 in EPA Tests. 
Note your actual milage may vary. In some situations, much better City!
QUOTE: Unlike most hybrids, it’s not really made for efficiency, although will get a little better city mileage than a standard Stingray at 16 mpg. But because of higher mass and air drag, it will do worse than the standard Corvette’s 24 mpg on the highway."
............
So I'll predict 17/23/19! The same as the C8 in EPA Tests. 
Note your actual milage may vary. In some situations, much better City!
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^^^
You could be right. Lets see what software GM has and their final mpg numbers.
You could be right. Lets see what software GM has and their final mpg numbers.
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/u...crude-oil-2023
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^^^^^Hopefully we can replenish our strategic reserves which were recently raped for political gain.
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No I was hoping for a modern sports car coming out in the year 2023, not something based on a 9 year old F1 technology or 10+ year old NSX technology. Modern sport cars are coming out with performance PLUS economy. Ferrari SF90, 296, Mclaren Arturo, and what you will see from every manufacture on a new sports car coming out here on out. Focusing 99% on performance seems misplaced - especially considering they have the Z06 for that mission.
I expected you to be disappointed after it was revealed the direction they went with. Listening to Aaron Link in this Speed Phenom video, he touches on why they most likely chose this direction. Sounds like they instead wanted to ease traditional Corvette enthusiasts into electrification as they likely assumed their traditional base would be opposed if they made too many drastic changes like adding a plug in option. These decisions were most likely made way in advance of the C8’s great success with obtaining customers outside of the traditional demographic.
Check out Aaron’s explanation starting around the 10 minute mark of this video.
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I expected you to be disappointed after it was revealed the direction they went with. Listening to Aaron Link in this Speed Phenom video, he touches on why they most likely chose this direction. Sounds like they instead wanted to ease traditional Corvette enthusiasts into electrification as they likely assumed their traditional base would be opposed if they made too many drastic changes like adding a plug in option. These decisions were most likely made way in advance of the C8’s great success with obtaining customers outside of the traditional demographic.
Check out Aaron’s explanation starting around the 10 minute mark of this video.
https://youtu.be/0WPq9eZhEBc
Check out Aaron’s explanation starting around the 10 minute mark of this video.
https://youtu.be/0WPq9eZhEBc
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