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this would an interesting option for the c8, no hot side eliminates the need for inter coolers, PLC programs boost.. small package size.
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There is a rather large battery that powers each unit, if using more than one, would start to eat up a lot of space and add a lot of weight.
The presence of the hot side isn't what necessitates intercooling; the compressing of air naturally heats it, whether it's an exhaust-driven turbo, a belt-driven supercharger, or an electricity-driven torqamp.
Still, it is interesting tech. Garrett is promising some of their 2021 products to be partially electric. I wonder if the EV haters will hate electric turbos too?
The presence of the hot side isn't what necessitates intercooling; the compressing of air naturally heats it, whether it's an exhaust-driven turbo, a belt-driven supercharger, or an electricity-driven torqamp.
Still, it is interesting tech. Garrett is promising some of their 2021 products to be partially electric. I wonder if the EV haters will hate electric turbos too?
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thank god this wasnt another leaf blower add 
implementing 5k worth of turbos is ok, but too much weight rides along with
I like the electric turbo center sections that retain exh drive turbine as a much better approach. but unless you are hooked up with an AMG, might have to wait
they are coming and when integrated with an existing 48v system, lag is non existant
good stuff
implementing 5k worth of turbos is ok, but too much weight rides along withI like the electric turbo center sections that retain exh drive turbine as a much better approach. but unless you are hooked up with an AMG, might have to wait
they are coming and when integrated with an existing 48v system, lag is non existant
good stuff
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As I see this as:
a) an upgrade kit
a.1) if you just want a few seconds of boost--go for it
a.2) if you want continuous boost--something in the electrical system will let you down
a.2.a) probably the alternator or battery.
b) a new kind of integrated supercharger
b.1) where the factory has worked out how to feed it electrical power continuously and in every imaginable environmental condition,
b.1) where the factory has sized (and cooled) the motors to properly drive the turbine continuously,
b.3) where the factory has upped the cooling systems for the power level attained,
Its great.
a) an upgrade kit
a.1) if you just want a few seconds of boost--go for it
a.2) if you want continuous boost--something in the electrical system will let you down
a.2.a) probably the alternator or battery.
b) a new kind of integrated supercharger
b.1) where the factory has worked out how to feed it electrical power continuously and in every imaginable environmental condition,
b.1) where the factory has sized (and cooled) the motors to properly drive the turbine continuously,
b.3) where the factory has upped the cooling systems for the power level attained,
Its great.
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the amg style electric center section turbos are a much better design. they use a small motor in the center section to spin up and then the normal exh driven turbine kicks in
they are way too expensive but now that the design has been proven, they will indeed improve low end boost response and even provide some regen power
not a fan at all of this approach
they are way too expensive but now that the design has been proven, they will indeed improve low end boost response and even provide some regen power
not a fan at all of this approach
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There is a rather large battery that powers each unit, if using more than one, would start to eat up a lot of space and add a lot of weight.
The presence of the hot side isn't what necessitates intercooling; the compressing of air naturally heats it, whether it's an exhaust-driven turbo, a belt-driven supercharger, or an electricity-driven torqamp.
Still, it is interesting tech. Garrett is promising some of their 2021 products to be partially electric. I wonder if the EV haters will hate electric turbos too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yrxbcB4CwA
The presence of the hot side isn't what necessitates intercooling; the compressing of air naturally heats it, whether it's an exhaust-driven turbo, a belt-driven supercharger, or an electricity-driven torqamp.
Still, it is interesting tech. Garrett is promising some of their 2021 products to be partially electric. I wonder if the EV haters will hate electric turbos too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yrxbcB4CwA
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Good points but as a previous EV owner that just put down another deposit on an EV coming out next year. I think the FRUNK on the C8 could be used for battery storage, similar to what I suspect GM will be doing with the C8 hybrid. With a couple of lighter weight batteries up front that are recharged by the alternator, this could be an interesting development as a kit.
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[QUOTE=jrhoades;1601451162]The presence of the hot side isn't what necessitates intercooling; the compressing of air naturally heats it, /QUOTE]
Not quite::
A volume of air at atmospheric pressure contains a certain amount of heat.
When you adiabatically compress the air it has less volume but has the same amount of 'heat' in it,
thus its temperature rises.
Not quite::
A volume of air at atmospheric pressure contains a certain amount of heat.
When you adiabatically compress the air it has less volume but has the same amount of 'heat' in it,
thus its temperature rises.