Morning! This side of the forum seems to be a bit quiet. I take it not many people are going with the options available for F/I at the moment? What are everyone's plans? I'm personally waiting for an option that costs between 15-20k at the most (installed) and runs 9's at 140-145. The Cicio kit seems great, but for the price point I might just get a Z06 or Plaid... I haven't seen any numbers or videos for the Procharger other than it traps 128. The Lingenfelter kit is constantly delayed. C8's with bolt on's seem to be running low 10's and trapping in the high 120's. Are the crazy prices due to the lack of tuning options?

 

I am with you

the good old days of ECS and A&A 8k installed and tuned 7-8psi Blower is missed !!! only option I see right now is Lingenfelter for 13k plus say 1500 install.

I also like the resale value of the brand LPE on any Vette. Buyers will pay up for that resale name

 

everything costs more money now days.. and they don't sell as many c8 f/i kits now days as they did back in the day.. that also adds to price.. these kits are also way more complex.. that also adds more to cost...

i kinda went the opposite way and built my own kit.. way cheeper

 

The ECS C8 TT kit is coming, we are just working out some corks before it is released!

 

I went through the options on the Cicio kit at it appears the majority of the cost is the tuning... Will prices come down if and when tuning becomes available? I'm not so much worried about the prices as I am the results.... I just can't see putting in 15k to run low 10's at 130 when bolt on's have already been as effective in ET and trap speed. If a 15-30k kit doesn't trap at least 135 how is the price justified?

 

What are you doing for the tune?

 

Just some custom stuff, nothing out of box...

Might post a DIY after few months of running it but i find people around here don't care about DIYs....

 

Any of your Votech supercharger kits in the works?

 

I had planned all along to boost my C8 like I did with the C7. But until, if ever, the tune puzzle is solved, the $ just isn't reasonable.

 

I’m sure several would be interested in this DIY for sure…

 

Yeah.... I'm totally interested in following his progress!

 

The whole problem is lack of tuning, period.
We get good tuning, anything is possible.

 

Nice work. Wait for the DIY write-up.
Add a FI setup to an ERay with its awd setup would be fantastic.

 

When it comes to the C8 and Turbo Kits, It will probably always be more expensive than previous generations with superchargers for the following reasons:

- Turbo Kit is a higher cost point since it requires more items (2 turbos vs 1 supercharger unit for Example)
- Cost of the vehicle is higher which means companies are spending more in R&D to make the kits
- Tuning isn't available by standard means (flashing stock ecu) but that being said even if the factory ecu gets cracked their will be no way to control boost (factory ecu doesn't have boost control at all) and the factory ecu doesn't have a way to control port injection for extra fueling since that isn't a factory option either

Going the Turbo Route does have its advantages though such as the ability to increase boost by flashing into the Motec Piggyback, no swapping pulleys or any of that nonsense, and its the same turbo kit on our C600 package as our C1200 package so customers don't have to upgrade the kit as they increase the power in the car. The 64mm turbos spool up very quick on this size engine so there is no noticeable "Turbo Lag" either.

Also its worth mentioning that a twin turbo V8 is about as mean sounding as it gets haha.

We do have cheaper packages that don't require the Motec tuning and utilize the factory fuel system and those cars are consistently running low 10's in any condition, not just when the conditions are absolutely perfect to make one 10.5 pass. We are more interested in repeatable results since that's what customers want.

Of course if anyone has any questions don't hesitate to ask!

Thanks
Andrew

 

Being a C6 owner I don't usually browse the C8 discussions. But the idea of "C8 forced induction" got me curious. I own and fly a Rutan VariEze airplane, which has an ancient MA-3 carb but a neat, albeit primitive Electronic Ignition for the bottom plugs as well as an antique Magneto for the top plugs, to spin a Wooden Prop. It tops out at 205 MPH at sea level turning 3,500 RPM (Yikes!!), and gets 25+ MPG at 175 MPH at 10,000 ft MSL at the Redline of 2,700 RPM. Friends of mine with similar airplanes are always changing out their Fuel Injection and Advanced Electronic Ignitions, and installing the latest (expensive) Composite Propellers to get higher speeds and/or better fuel economy. I once heard of a saying that describes this sort of thing:

"People complain about the dog's Diction. Isn't it enough that the dog talks?"

 

 

Any word on Lingenfelter? We haven't seen much out of their kit yet. Also, I'm kind of stumped as to why Procharger puts out a video of it running the quarter mile but never revealing any numbers.

 

Because it wasn't a favorable number. I thought it was ridiculous and click bait. There 600 hp package is similar to a maxed out bolt-on.