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I traded my C8 in because of this... I've seen so many people spend upwards of 50k to barely run 10's. I bought an M4, tuned it for around 2k and ran low 10's... I'd jump back to the C8 if there were any great options....
I traded my C8 in because of this... I've seen so many people spend upwards of 50k to barely run 10's. I bought an M4, tuned it for around 2k and ran low 10's... I'd jump back to the C8 if there were any great options....
I almost bought the m4… but I just bought the new xm suv and the interiors are the same. I’m going to just do nitrous and wait.
From: Providing the most proven supercharger kits for your C5/6/7 609-752-0321
Originally Posted by RiptideHTC
Centrfugal or PD supercharger system?
I'd like to see a 6th Gen 3.0L Whipple kit for the C8, that Callaway was supposed to be working on.
Who's gray C8 that you just installed your green ECS TT system on?
I'd like to see it in person. Facebook
That car is here until tomorrow or Friday, but it is somewhat local to us. We have a few other TT C8's here at the moment also so if you wanted a "taste" of what they feel like you're welcome to stop in.
From: Providing the most proven supercharger kits for your C5/6/7 609-752-0321
Originally Posted by tmiller7460
while as a small business owner x3… I get that startup and development costs are high. I can appreciate the funding and time that goes into this… there still is no way this justifies a 20k price tag! At this point, just like the dealer price gouging, they are capitalizing on early adapters! And as time goes on… units will just sit and prices will come down! Go nitrous or wait it out… or do both!
We are running double shifts now to keep up with demand and we pretty much do not advertise them other than here and some FB posts now and then. So at least at the moment units are not going to "just sit". I'm also six figures away from breaking even yet, so I really don't see how we are price gauging. I also assure you every manufacture making them did not call each other and decide to have a price point that's almost identical. It will come down in time.
Originally Posted by jasinedward
I traded my C8 in because of this... I've seen so many people spend upwards of 50k to barely run 10's. I bought an M4, tuned it for around 2k and ran low 10's... I'd jump back to the C8 if there were any great options....
Pop in here now and then, we are working on it. It's not going to be C5 prices, but much more reasonable then what is currently available, and certainly not 50k since it's no where near that now. The emissions friendly set up is 9 second capable btw, we have ran 10.2 in the heat and there have been significant improvements to the tuning since then. We'll head back out to the track in the spring and post results.
Originally Posted by RiptideHTC
Centrfugal or PD supercharger system?
There will not be a centri offering from ECS for the C8 even though that is what we are known best for, I drove a C8 centrifugal and that was more than enough for me to say that we will never make or install one at ECS. Just my opinion, but I would sell the car the next day before keeping that titanites buzz in my ear non stop. Way too overwhelming when it's right behind your head.
We are running double shifts now to keep up with demand and we pretty much do not advertise them other than here and some FB posts now and then. So at least at the moment units are not going to "just sit". I'm also six figures away from breaking even yet, so I really don't see how we are price gauging. I also assure you every manufacture making them did not call each other and decide to have a price point that's almost identical. It will come down in time.
Pop in here now and then, we are working on it. It's not going to be C5 prices, but much more reasonable then what is currently available, and certainly not 50k since it's no where near that now. The emissions friendly set up is 9 second capable btw, we have ran 10.2 in the heat and there have been significant improvements to the tuning since then. We'll head back out to the track in the spring and post results.
There will not be a centri offering from ECS for the C8 even though that is what we are known best for, I drove a C8 centrifugal and that was more than enough for me to say that we will never make or install one at ECS. Just my opinion, but I would sell the car the next day before keeping that titanites buzz in my ear non stop. Way too overwhelming when it's right behind your head.
And after having your C7 centri kit and now your C8 TT kit (with a C7 Zo6 in between), I can say the TT's give you the best of both worlds - the responsiveness and torque of a PD supercharger (blower) and the smooth delivery and high-end power of a centrifugal supercharger. While PDs will likely always be tough to beat for off idle and part throttle response/torque, your TT kit really makes a matter of preference vs any performance or drivability trade off - be that street or track. I am super excited to see what you folks do in the PD supercharger space. And having just gone through a TT build, it is clear there isn't a bunch of margin you folks are holding back to extract profit. if you could turn these around faster/cheaper, you would probably make more money via volume. I am now intimately aware how long all the machining takes for intake manifolds and turbo headers; the tunning alone can be a 1-2 week project. And this isn't considering all the R&D that went into the design. Folks should look at the replacement/crate engine costs of an LT1/LT2 vs an LT4, and then consider this is at the scale of GM (amortize across multiple chevy/caddy models) and without yet the need to recoup R&D for a mid rear engine reverse orientation application.
Too much engineering and parts to make FI work on a C8. reason there will never be a cheap new kit. I've built a few. A ton more time than a C5,C6,C7.
We shall see! If you take a look at the kits that are out there's nothing special about how they're made or what's done to them minus the water to air manifolds.. and procharger has had them for the lt1 for some time now. I think they'll be coming down over time. Right now, especially with the tcm tuning incoming... nitrous looks more and more appealing. Can put about 500 bottles through the car and still be cheaper then these fi kits!
Sounds like trans tuning is the bottle neck. 25k+ to not be much faster is Ludacris. Better to wait a bit longer and get a z06.
As someone mentioned the answer is dont buy.
To me setup the car for nitrous. Run small shot for now. When trans tunes come out flash it spray 200 and see if all the turbo blower junk can keep up. For less work far less money and stock drive ability and virtually zero biild time. Yes i have owned all motor, blower and tt c6z06s. And other cars. Currently have tt 08z. This auto c8 on a 200 shot shifting properly should run hard.
@DOUG @ ECS I do appreciate your response and as a business owner myself, I can certainly appreciate your feedback and perspective. Nonetheless, it still makes this platform a non-starter for me considering how many better options there are for the money. When TCU options come out, I'll give it another look but as of right now, the pricing is still tricky. It's certainly a balance between volume sold vs ROI and I don't envy anyone who is in this C8 game trying to make a buck.
From: Providing the most proven supercharger kits for your C5/6/7 609-752-0321
Originally Posted by LT1Power
Sounds like trans tuning is the bottle neck. 25k+ to not be much faster is Ludacris. Better to wait a bit longer and get a z06.
As someone mentioned the answer is dont buy.
To me setup the car for nitrous. Run small shot for now. When trans tunes come out flash it spray 200 and see if all the turbo blower junk can keep up. For less work far less money and stock drive ability and virtually zero biild time. Yes i have owned all motor, blower and tt c6z06s. And other cars. Currently have tt 08z. This auto c8 on a 200 shot shifting properly should run hard.
Very few C8 owners are going to want to deal with the PITA of nitrous with it's part time HP output, bottle filling-bottle temps etc, and to install nitrous properly it's far from "virtually zero build time". Our base turbo kit can make 1500 rwhp if you have done the surrounding mods. I did actually "laugh out loud" with the "turbo blower junk can keep up" comment though, thank you for that.
Originally Posted by -ZEEOHSIX-
@DOUG @ ECS I do appreciate your response and as a business owner myself, I can certainly appreciate your feedback and perspective. Nonetheless, it still makes this platform a non-starter for me considering how many better options there are for the money. When TCU options come out, I'll give it another look but as of right now, the pricing is still tricky. It's certainly a balance between volume sold vs ROI and I don't envy anyone who is in this C8 game trying to make a buck.
It has not been easy, but it's such a great platform, just like when the C5 came out, it took a while to get it to where HP was easily purchased. I remember when there were only a handful of 9 second cars on here, now it's easy to do with a stock engine. Keep checking in, it will turn around soon enough, it's just such a change in platform design that it's taking a bit.
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