Question-Why would someone just not buy a Porsche?
01-05-2019, 11:47 PM
#1041
Race Director
Rent this, buy this and understand the allure of the corvette...
available on amazon prime or vimeo..
i bought and enjoyed this 90 minute extravaganza on the corvette that just released.
btw porsches are cool too and in fact Paul owns and is a porsche enthusiast and Todd owns and dailys a lotus elise..
for a wonderful movie check it out.
available on amazon prime or vimeo..
i bought and enjoyed this 90 minute extravaganza on the corvette that just released.
btw porsches are cool too and in fact Paul owns and is a porsche enthusiast and Todd owns and dailys a lotus elise..
for a wonderful movie check it out.
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01-05-2019, 11:50 PM
#1042
Race Director
01-06-2019, 06:28 PM
#1043
Advanced
I stopped at the Porsche dealer yesterday. Sat In a GT3RS. Looked at a couple other 911’s. Looked at a few other cars. Expensive as f*ck. I drove a 3lt Stingray and bought a 1lt Stingray. To me no comparison. Porsche all the way. My wife, she likes the Vette. I guess it’s all about what you want and what turns you on. I can stand back and appreciate both cars for what they are. Some can’t. I guess that’s why racism exists. I just like cars period.
01-06-2019, 07:29 PM
#1047
Melting Slicks
01-06-2019, 07:41 PM
#1049
Melting Slicks
My wife really liked the C7 we had but she much prefers the 911 we bought last Spring. She prefers it due to being a little more “car like”, her words not mine. It has a better ride than the Corvette, has better sound insulation and doesn’t sit quite as low and she likes that. The Corvette was louder inside even after I had installed sound deadner. I liked hearing the exhaust notes, but not so much into tire and highway noise on a longer trip. Have you test drive a 991.2 911? Unless she simply likes the look of a Corvette she might be surprised how a 911 rides and drives. My 911 c2s isn’t z06 quick, but is a fair amount quicker than the C7 z51 I had owned.
Last edited by Dr. ice; 01-06-2019 at 07:45 PM.
01-06-2019, 07:49 PM
#1051
Melting Slicks
Thats way too rich for my blood as well. I find the second step up in the 911 line to be just fine for me. The only other “reasonable” 911 I would consider is the GTS. I don’t track my cars but enjoy spirited black top drives.
01-06-2019, 07:54 PM
#1052
Advanced
I’m happy with my Vette and my Porsche. All these people that are arguing don’t have both. If they did they would love them both. 2 different cars, 2 awesome cars. I’m blessed to have both.
01-06-2019, 07:56 PM
#1053
Melting Slicks
You are correct in that they are both great cars with their own flavor. I am happy you are able to have both!
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01-06-2019, 09:50 PM
#1054
A better question would be why would anyone ever buy a porsche. J/K. All the Porsche fans I'm sure there is something you like about them but I've just never felt it ... to each his own.
Also I think most of the Porsche performance street cars are rear engine, not mid engine. I bet 5 years from now GM will have sold more ME cars in its history than Porsche has.
Also I think most of the Porsche performance street cars are rear engine, not mid engine. I bet 5 years from now GM will have sold more ME cars in its history than Porsche has.
Last edited by auburn2; 01-06-2019 at 09:57 PM.
01-06-2019, 10:07 PM
#1055
Melting Slicks
A better question would be why would anyone ever buy a porsche. J/K. All the Porsche fans I'm sure there is something you like about them but I've just never felt it ... to each his own.
Also I think most of the Porsche performance street cars are rear engine, not mid engine. I bet 5 years from now GM will have sold more ME cars in its history than Porsche has.
Also I think most of the Porsche performance street cars are rear engine, not mid engine. I bet 5 years from now GM will have sold more ME cars in its history than Porsche has.
Last edited by Dr. ice; 01-06-2019 at 10:07 PM.
01-06-2019, 10:19 PM
#1056
Drifting
Me too. Except, I’m the one with the vette and my wife has the boxster. However, we trade all the time.
01-06-2019, 11:01 PM
#1057
01-07-2019, 10:29 AM
#1058
.......of course they will sell more Corvettes as they will be less expensive and more attainable by a larger number of people, providing they don’t substantially increase the cost. No different than now. If GM increases the prices to Porsche prices it will be interesting to see where the current buyers go. Many people buying Corvettes now will move to a Porsche or other marque in my opinion.
What would be interesting to see is how many 100K customers opted for a base 100K 911 instead of a Z06...
Last edited by Telepierre; 01-07-2019 at 10:56 AM.
01-07-2019, 10:55 AM
#1059
Melting Slicks
The price thing again..this has been and it is still a false dichotomy. Corvette has been increasing the price band to Porsche price ranges for quite some time. Although there is plenty of threads pontificating than a 100K Corvette will be the end of it we now know that as long there is content they can sell 100K Z06s and 150K ZR1s like candy.....
What would be interesting to see is how many 100K customers opted for a Z06 rather than a base 100K 911... Probably zero!?
What would be interesting to see is how many 100K customers opted for a Z06 rather than a base 100K 911... Probably zero!?
01-07-2019, 01:38 PM
#1060
gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/corvette/chevrolet-corvette-sales-numbers/
Total C7Z06 + C7ZR1 sales to date(2015-2018):8653+15868+7212+7880=39613 AVG MSRP: $103,289
https://rennlist.com/forums/Total Base 911 sales to date (2015-2018 2nd % best after turbo): 985+890+897+964=3736 AVG MSRP $101,307
Price is a factor. Price/Performance a much more important factor.
The reason I used the Z06 and ZR1 MSRP is to specifically debunk the theory/opinion that Corvette sales more because they are “cheaper”. The numbers above completely debunk that opinion. By your own admission some Z06s car run slightly above or lower than base 911 (may as well call it even) yet completely obliterate in sales base 911s by a factor of 10!! Turning your “more poor people = more corvettes” completely on its head… not even close to even!
Are you willing to entertain the idea that maybe (only maybe) these numbers are a result of real market price/performance competition and a guy with 100K or 1M actually prefers a 100K corvette instead of a 100K 911 by a huge factor!?... Peace.
P.S I actually learned a lot about Porsche pricing from my son. The 29 year “rascal” was going to proverbially rebel from his Dad and surprise/ impress him with a “superior”911 buy (also because he lived in Germany for a while..)
He went in a VA Porsche dealer, sat into a 911 “nice interiors; ten styles of shifter *****..but no real tangible road worthy options; price on crack!” his words… ;-) yes...he did walk out...
Total C7Z06 + C7ZR1 sales to date(2015-2018):8653+15868+7212+7880=39613 AVG MSRP: $103,289
https://rennlist.com/forums/Total Base 911 sales to date (2015-2018 2nd % best after turbo): 985+890+897+964=3736 AVG MSRP $101,307
Price is a factor. Price/Performance a much more important factor.
The reason I used the Z06 and ZR1 MSRP is to specifically debunk the theory/opinion that Corvette sales more because they are “cheaper”. The numbers above completely debunk that opinion. By your own admission some Z06s car run slightly above or lower than base 911 (may as well call it even) yet completely obliterate in sales base 911s by a factor of 10!! Turning your “more poor people = more corvettes” completely on its head… not even close to even!
Are you willing to entertain the idea that maybe (only maybe) these numbers are a result of real market price/performance competition and a guy with 100K or 1M actually prefers a 100K corvette instead of a 100K 911 by a huge factor!?... Peace.
P.S I actually learned a lot about Porsche pricing from my son. The 29 year “rascal” was going to proverbially rebel from his Dad and surprise/ impress him with a “superior”911 buy (also because he lived in Germany for a while..)
He went in a VA Porsche dealer, sat into a 911 “nice interiors; ten styles of shifter *****..but no real tangible road worthy options; price on crack!” his words… ;-) yes...he did walk out...
Last edited by Telepierre; 01-07-2019 at 01:42 PM.