Design Duke Out--What the HELL?
09-06-2018, 10:42 PM
#101
Melting Slicks
From this point on I’ll only show compassion towards you.
I’m sorry to inform you ,that the car you own ,could never be duplicated,
No design ever came close,since 1967,
You can’t ever experience a bigger high.
Nice car.
09-07-2018, 12:11 AM
#102
Burning Brakes
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Factory sides. Tank like moves
As far as handling etc.
I have limited track time but enough to know what good handling is across 4 generations of cars--mostly Porsches, Vettes and Ponies. The handling on mine (stock F-41) is amazing for its generation. And even more amazing is the braking. Mine is non-power steering and power brakes combo. Factory transistor ignition. Lead pipe reliable and oozes fun. Two tops. Factory radio delete. Power windows and leather seats. Very weird combo, but you could order it any way you wanted back then.
Oh. And nothing. NOTHING shifts as sweet and smooth as a Muncie 20 series. NOTHING.
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09-07-2018, 07:31 AM
#103
Melting Slicks
The best thing about the sides is they set off car alarms like you can't believe. Always good for a chuckle.
As far as handling etc.
I have limited track time but enough to know what good handling is across 4 generations of cars--mostly Porsches, Vettes and Ponies. The handling on mine (stock F-41) is amazing for its generation. And even more amazing is the braking. Mine is non-power steering and power brakes combo. Factory transistor ignition. Lead pipe reliable and oozes fun. Two tops. Factory radio delete. Power windows and leather seats. Very weird combo, but you could order it any way you wanted back then.
Oh. And nothing. NOTHING shifts as sweet and smooth as a Muncie 20 series. NOTHING.
As far as handling etc.
I have limited track time but enough to know what good handling is across 4 generations of cars--mostly Porsches, Vettes and Ponies. The handling on mine (stock F-41) is amazing for its generation. And even more amazing is the braking. Mine is non-power steering and power brakes combo. Factory transistor ignition. Lead pipe reliable and oozes fun. Two tops. Factory radio delete. Power windows and leather seats. Very weird combo, but you could order it any way you wanted back then.
Oh. And nothing. NOTHING shifts as sweet and smooth as a Muncie 20 series. NOTHING.
09-07-2018, 11:12 AM
#104
Burning Brakes
Man it seems like some people just want to be negative. Who gives 2 f%$ what the auto world is saying. The auto world has always found a reason to bash corvettes and i don't see that changing anytime soon. Forgot who originally said this on this forum, but i remember one member saying the corvette is in a weird spot where nothing in its price range competes with it yet it competes with cars costing x amount more. Because of this it will never be judged fairly/correctly. (ok i know that wasn't the exact quote but that was a close as i could remember).
Not seeing how something this trivial could scare you but just sit back and relax. Over the past 20 years vettes have been getting better and better. I don't see that changing...
Not seeing how something this trivial could scare you but just sit back and relax. Over the past 20 years vettes have been getting better and better. I don't see that changing...
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CorvettoBrando (09-07-2018)
09-07-2018, 11:18 AM
#105
Cross your fingers and toes. I'm not talking about the "little" design elements. I'm talking about MAJOR elements: Proportion, style lines, curves etc.
The C7 is many ways the diametric opposite of what we're seeing thus far in the C8. And it ain't gonna change. There ARE NO upward sweeping design elements that break up the high belt line as we see in the C7. The doors and sides are slab-like in the C8 but have a voluptuous profile in the C7. The *** is high as an elephant's eye. Yes. Even higher and narrower than the stock C7. And that's saying something. The mouth is a huge, gaping, vertical hole. The shark like sleekness of the C7 is replaced by a chunky monkey profile in the C8.
Those things are not going to change. They can't change. I wish that taking off the camo wrap could.
The C7 is many ways the diametric opposite of what we're seeing thus far in the C8. And it ain't gonna change. There ARE NO upward sweeping design elements that break up the high belt line as we see in the C7. The doors and sides are slab-like in the C8 but have a voluptuous profile in the C7. The *** is high as an elephant's eye. Yes. Even higher and narrower than the stock C7. And that's saying something. The mouth is a huge, gaping, vertical hole. The shark like sleekness of the C7 is replaced by a chunky monkey profile in the C8.
Those things are not going to change. They can't change. I wish that taking off the camo wrap could.
i could be wrong and the car car could be as you describe. After 10 years of work, the very same design team that brought you your beautiful C7, completely dropped the ball and put out a blocky chunky future Corvette.
If if you look at the overlay line drawings, the nose and butt of the C8 are exactly the same height as the 488 and lower than the C7. The general shape and proportions are similar to the 488/McLaren. Point being, that you can relax “ a bit” about the design an trust that the basics are well thought out.
We we may see a car that is hard edged and angular rather than rounded and soft. More Lambo?
we will see soon enough and I am ready to be surprised.! ... in a good way! ; )
09-07-2018, 11:36 AM
#106
Gentleman... stop feeding the troll.
09-07-2018, 12:04 PM
#107
But he houngry! ; )
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09-07-2018, 12:19 PM
#108
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09-07-2018, 01:03 PM
#109
The styling of the C8 has not been in progress for "10 years". Simcoe recently took over as the head of GM design and the C8 will be his design. If you google his past efforts at GM, you will not find any outstanding designs. You certainly will not find anything in the same league as the C7.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
09-07-2018, 01:04 PM
#110
The styling of the C8 has not been in progress for "10 years". Simcoe recently took over as the head of GM design and the C8 will be his design. If you google his past efforts at GM, you will not find any outstanding designs. You certainly will not find anything in the same league as the C7.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
09-07-2018, 01:17 PM
#111
Yes, the design was probably finalized before he took over, but that does not mean that it was not redone. Hence the change in the unveiling date from 2018 to 2019, etc.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
09-07-2018, 01:18 PM
#112
From the overlays, the height of the hood looks to be "about" the same as the 488 Pista. I think that should be low enough...
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09-07-2018, 01:21 PM
#113
Yes, the design was probably finalized before he took over, but that does not mean that it was not redone. Hence the change in the unveiling date from 2018 to 2019, etc.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
Well, my point was that GM and the design team has been working toward and on a MID engine Corvette for a long-long time. Much consideration for styling and performance has been done and redone many many times. They are not just winging it. The other point was that since the same team...in general, that designed the c7-has designed the c8, we can rest assured it won't be a step backwards.
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09-07-2018, 01:39 PM
#114
The styling of the C8 has not been in progress for "10 years". Simcoe recently took over as the head of GM design and the C8 will be his design. If you google his past efforts at GM, you will not find any outstanding designs. You certainly will not find anything in the same league as the C7.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
I think that our only hope is that the camo is hiding a street version of C8R. Regardless, I do not think that the removal of the camo will lower the beltline or reduce the height of the hood.
Higher belt line, or lower roof?
Bring the roof down an inch along with the seating position to keep headroom the same while maintaining the height of the belt line from the ground would make for a killer look up close and personal. Might looked higher in pics, when it's actually a lower roof, not a higher waist. Let's hope that's the case. If it's not, it still looks great to me either way.
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09-07-2018, 02:30 PM
#115
Yes, the design was probably finalized before he took over, but that does not mean that it was not redone. Hence the change in the unveiling date from 2018 to 2019, etc.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
Simcoe has made statements about the significance of the C8 design.
Higher belt line, or lower roof?
Bring the roof down an inch along with the seating position to keep headroom the same while maintaining the height of the belt line from the ground would make for a killer look up close and personal. Might looked higher in pics, when it's actually a lower roof, not a higher waist. Let's hope that's the case. If it's not, it still looks great to me either way.
Bring the roof down an inch along with the seating position to keep headroom the same while maintaining the height of the belt line from the ground would make for a killer look up close and personal. Might looked higher in pics, when it's actually a lower roof, not a higher waist. Let's hope that's the case. If it's not, it still looks great to me either way.
09-07-2018, 03:09 PM
#116
I'm not sure I understand...all that is true.
09-07-2018, 03:10 PM
#117
Well, my point was that GM and the design team has been working toward and on a MID engine Corvette for a long-long time. Much consideration for styling and performance has been done and redone many many times. They are not just winging it. The other point was that since the same team...in general, that designed the c7-has designed the c8, we can rest assured it won't be a step backwards.
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09-07-2018, 03:19 PM
#119
people said the SAME thing about the C7... didn’t like and it was a huge sales and design success, take a breath, the sky is not falling, watch how many they sell, it WILL be a boat load, no it won’t look like a 300 k car BECAUSE it’s NOT a 300 k car, it Will Be a helluva car for the money, just like it’s always been
09-07-2018, 03:57 PM
#120
You can **** on the C7 all you like, but they sold a ton of them and they were a success for GM so much so that they had nearly quadruple the funds to develop the C8.
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