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Old 04-24-2019, 11:16 AM
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Very hard to believe that Corvette would bet the ranch on a design like this. If this is all we get going forward, the end is near.
Old 04-24-2019, 07:15 PM
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Very hard to believe that Corvette would bet the ranch on a design like this. If this is all we get going forward, the end is near.
Really, they bet the ranch with all of them.

If you have a decent memory, you know the wailing about the C7, based on a very accurate but soulless, 2D render, and a bunch of camo'd beta cars, was as great as this time around. Maybe they are due for a flop, but a wise person would bet this next generation will be a resounding success like all the others (post-1955) once the wrap and tacked-on crap is gone and the actual car is seen and driven...
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Old 04-24-2019, 07:27 PM
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The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.
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Originally Posted by Yarbie
The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.
Others are allowed to have a different opinion right?

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Old 04-24-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbie
The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.

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Old 04-24-2019, 08:26 PM
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Others are allowed to have a different opinion right?

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Yes, after all Aztek actually sold 120 thousand vehicles over 5 years and the Nissan Juke sold over 175 thousand.

I would not be seen driving either one, but go ahead if you want to.
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Originally Posted by Yarbie
The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.
But don't forget, it is also going to be very unreliable.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Yes, after all Aztek actually sold 120 thousand vehicles over 5 years and the Nissan Juke sold over 175 thousand.

I would not be seen driving either one, but go ahead if you want to.
I see the similarities in the C8.

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Old 04-25-2019, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbie
The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.
Do you have pix from when you saw this ugly mess in person? We'd all love to see the un-camo'd Vette on which your strong opinion is based.

If, however, you are basing it on the camo'd cars, well, you probably have just set a new standard for jumping to conclusions...
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Darion
Others are allowed to have a different opinion right?

PC
It's not so much about OPINIONS. I mean, who in this thread have ever actually SEEN the thing. The opinions are based on barely better than nothing!

I particularly find the strong negative opinions hilarious. The only logical conclusion is to look at a history of well-camo'd beta Vettes that many feared would be hideous, and all of which turned out to be very nice. Expecting something different to me is out on a limb (although the recent Camaros do give more credence to those who think ugly is inevitable...)

We'll see. But far more interesting to argue about Vettes we've actually seen...
Old 04-25-2019, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna Fred
It's not so much about OPINIONS. I mean, who in this thread have ever actually SEEN the thing. The opinions are based on barely better than nothing!

I particularly find the strong negative opinions hilarious. The only logical conclusion is to look at a history of well-camo'd beta Vettes that many feared would be hideous, and all of which turned out to be very nice. Expecting something different to me is out on a limb (although the recent Camaros do give more credence to those who think ugly is inevitable...)

We'll see. But far more interesting to argue about Vettes we've actually seen...
Of course, nobody's seen the car. But there's little possibility the actual car will differ significantly in basic proportions or the shape of major features, e.g. nose and ***. The car that seems to be emerging is blocky and has little shape. The fender peaks barely exist. The *** is huge and chaotic in detail. The mouth is so big that the top of the beak is nearly as high as the base of the windshield.

Does anyone dispute this? Is this controversial?

Again. Maybe you look at that description and say "Wow. No shape. Bulky as all hell. I love it!!!"

More power to you. But the basic shape, features and proportions are unlikely to change when the wrap comes off.
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Originally Posted by Laguna Fred
It's not so much about OPINIONS. I mean, who in this thread have ever actually SEEN the thing. The opinions are based on barely better than nothing!

I particularly find the strong negative opinions hilarious. The only logical conclusion is to look at a history of well-camo'd beta Vettes that many feared would be hideous, and all of which turned out to be very nice. Expecting something different to me is out on a limb (although the recent Camaros do give more credence to those who think ugly is inevitable...)

We'll see. But far more interesting to argue about Vettes we've actually seen...
I see what you are saying but in all fairness, without opinions we wouldn't have a c8 section, lol. This whole section has been mostly folks reading what they believe the tea leaves mean.

As far as opinions go, yeah the strongly negative ones are the most fun considering it's all guess work. For me it's all good, the foundation, even in camo form, is fine with me. I do think the real thing will be more refined when some padding comes off.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by IronV
Of course, nobody's seen the car. But there's little possibility the actual car will differ significantly in basic proportions or the shape of major features, e.g. nose and ***. The car that seems to be emerging is blocky and has little shape. The fender peaks barely exist. The *** is huge and chaotic in detail. The mouth is so big that the top of the beak is nearly as high as the base of the windshield.

Does anyone dispute this? Is this controversial?

Again. Maybe you look at that description and say "Wow. No shape. Bulky as all hell. I love it!!!"

More power to you. But the basic shape, features and proportions are unlikely to change when the wrap comes off.
Actually, I pretty much dispute everything you say. And have from the beginning. I see purposeful. But, to be fair, I think the huge peaks on the C3 are kinda silly so when you see "no" peaks I am inclined to think a smooth and refined, wind-cheating shape.

It's all in the details, about which you and I know pretty much nothing...

But, I do like your avatar...
Old 04-25-2019, 01:20 PM
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Default No. It's not in the details. It's in the proportions and the shape

Originally Posted by Laguna Fred
Actually, I pretty much dispute everything you say. And have from the beginning. I see purposeful. But, to be fair, I think the huge peaks on the C3 are kinda silly so when you see "no" peaks I am inclined to think a smooth and refined, wind-cheating shape.

It's all in the details, about which you and I know pretty much nothing...

But, I do like your avatar...
You dispute that this thing appears to be thick and have little shape? You dispute it has no fender peaks (i.e. "shape?") You dispute the rear end is enormous and appears to be complex? You dispute the mouth is gigantic?

What are you disputing?

Again. If you like what you see, that's fine. But there's no point in disputing physical reality. And in my opinion, the "details" (such as the ridges on the hood and the chaos on the rear end) will only make it worse.

As for my avatar... "Zis is KAOS! Vee don't do round tail lights here!"
Old 04-25-2019, 11:34 PM
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Well, after much thought and pushing parts around, I came to the conclusion that the top most likely needs lie flat over the engine like the Ferrari. So I spent tonight reworking the engine cover and removing the window. :-(
Here's a grey game render of the progress, but it doesn't look like much.

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Good work. I think that's more like it.
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Originally Posted by IronV
You dispute that this thing appears to be thick and have little shape? You dispute it has no fender peaks (i.e. "shape?") You dispute the rear end is enormous and appears to be complex? You dispute the mouth is gigantic?

What are you disputing?

Again. If you like what you see, that's fine. But there's no point in disputing physical reality. And in my opinion, the "details" (such as the ridges on the hood and the chaos on the rear end) will only make it worse.

As for my avatar... "Zis is KAOS! Vee don't do round tail lights here!"
It is not a matter of "like." Those betas are repulsive -- on purpose. It is a matter of you seeing things that aint..

I see purposeful shaping and plenty of it; just not exaggerated and dated silliness. I see an ugly butt that is hiding who knows what (though the bumper leaked probably over a year ago is promising.) The mouth will be what it is. If it is well integrated for its purpose, I'll like it. Right now, who knows?

So, I'm disputing a panicky response based on insufficient data. Nothing more...

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Old 04-26-2019, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna Fred
It is not a matter of "like." Those betas are repulsive -- on purpose. It is a matter of you seeing things that aint..

I see purposeful shaping and plenty of it; just not exaggerated and dated silliness. I see an ugly butt that is hiding who knows what (though the bumper leaked probably over a year ago is promising.) The mouth will be what it is. If it is well integrated for its purpose, I'll like it. Right now, who knows?

So, I'm disputing a panicky response based on insufficient data. Nothing more...
Well point it out to me, Dude.

So far, I see a brick with random lines etched into it.
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Old 04-26-2019, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
Now THIS is BADASS!!!!!
I've seen some renders of the C8 that I like, but that one looks horrifically bad to me. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Yarbie
The C8 will go down as one of the most hideous designs in history. It's absolutely terrible looking from front to back.
Sorry folks but it's terrible.
Hilarious... haven't even seen the car yet but able to make such a ridiculous statement. You must have xray vision or can see into the future... impressive.


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