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Old 02-11-2019, 04:24 PM
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I expect on the base model the front center will be filled in with a sharkish snout, but with the turbo engines the entire front will be open for maximum cooling capacity.

On the ATS-V GM places the low temperature radiators (LTR) for the liquid intercooler circuit on each side opening as well as in the center opening in front of the main engine cooling radiator. That's a lot of heat exchanger area devoted to liquid intercooling on a modest V6 with 464 hp, so my guess for the C8 is that the entire front will be packed with additional LTRs for intercooling, and track duty will require removal of the front license plate.

On the base C8, with only the side front inlets open, they can be used for an AC condenser coil and more, like maybe a KERS cooling circuit.

Because the front exchanger surface area will depend on presence of turbos, I view the side scoop exchangers as the place for cooling needs common to all engines, such as engine cooling, oil cooling, and transaxle cooling.

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Old 02-11-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom73
But Porsche is only cooling a small 6, not a big 8. Think ZR1 cooling issues.
We'll see... a center front radiator would screw up the frunk. I believe the leaked CADS just showed the two side mount front rads. All the trans/diff cooling can be handled in the rear.
Old 02-11-2019, 04:45 PM
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I might as well talk to the f....g trees. Just unbelievable stupidity and ignorance displayed here with the exception of only two besides me. Golly.
Old 02-11-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaka
I might as well talk to the f....g trees. Just unbelievable stupidity and ignorance displayed here with the exception of only two besides me. Golly.
You're so smart!
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Originally Posted by DanSavage
Now, this is a car I would buy. Cadillac has the best designers. Their designs are light-years ahead of the competition.

I love the blow-in doors on the side scoops. Very cool.
The only thing American on this car is the money and the V12 North Star engine. It was totally conceived designed and built in England by Englishmen.
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The early test mule clearly only has two side front cooling inlets based on the cladding. The later cladded mule has two openings somewhat matching what we see on the ring cars. IMO the styling of the front of the ring cars is too "good" to be slapped on covering for a center opening. It's too well styled and flows nicely. My $$$$ is two side mount cooling inlets up front. I can't find the CADs showing the frunk and headlight detail.






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Originally Posted by Tom73
Do we know where the engine cooling radiators are located?
Just a few of us know.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
The early test mule clearly only has two side front cooling inlets based on the cladding. The later cladded mule has two openings somewhat matching what we see on the ring cars. IMO the styling of the front of the ring cars is too "good" to be slapped on covering for a center opening. It's too well styled and flows nicely. My $$$$ is two side mount cooling inlets up front. I can't find the CADs showing the frunk and headlight detail.




Perhaps these oh so obvious front cooling inlets are a distractor? Perhaps they are fake to throw off the speculation and the final version will not have those beehive/ho eycombs, but wide open?

I accidentally deleted one of the other photps, but why have this camo'd version wide open to see yet the blacked out camo has those inlets fully masked?

Perhaps different stages of camo with the above mules closest to the reveal?
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Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
Perhaps these oh so obvious front cooling inlets are a distractor? Perhaps they are fake to throw off the speculation and the final version will not have those beehive/ho eycombs, but wide open?

I accidentally deleted one of the other photps, but why have this camo'd version wide open to see yet the blacked out camo has those inlets fully masked?

Perhaps different stages of camo with the above mules closest to the reveal?
Porsche recently had to do a recall to add a mesh grilles in the side vents due to combustibles or other foreign materials like leaves getting too far up the intake tract, so hopefully there is something there since I don’t think it will be immune to the same issues.
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The comments in thread makes Ocasio-Cortez look intelligent.
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Originally Posted by WGGS
Porsche recently had to do a recall to add a mesh grilles in the side vents due to combustibles or other foreign materials like leaves getting too far up the intake tract, so hopefully there is something there since I don’t think it will be immune to the same issues.
Or birds!

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Old 02-11-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaka
The comments in thread makes Ocasio-Cortez look intelligent.
that's not even possible
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chazcron
Here's a blues trio I worked up on this lazy Sunday. No wheel, wing or scoop swap this time.





Good stuff. Things have come a long way since Jujubee and the C6!
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RPOZ51
Good stuff. Things have come a long way since Jujubee and the C6!
Damn that name brings back some memories. Does anyone still have a copy of that pic?
Old 02-11-2019, 08:34 PM
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I have enjoyed and shared each of your colors on these renderings...May I ask you a favor...a specific color request please...

McLaren has a very nice looking color called Volcano Red...are you able to share here, and (the other forum) your rendering in Volcano Red?

you can easily find the color by searching McLaren 720S in Volcano Red...

i would love love to see your rendering in this color...

Thank you very much sir...
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Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
Perhaps these oh so obvious front cooling inlets are a distractor? Perhaps they are fake to throw off the speculation and the final version will not have those beehive/ho eycombs, but wide open?

I accidentally deleted one of the other photps, but why have this camo'd version wide open to see yet the blacked out camo has those inlets fully masked?

Perhaps different stages of camo with the above mules closest to the reveal?
The cars with black cladding are early cars before the "wrap-only" cars came out. The wrap only was for high speed Nurburgring testing where the tarps can't work. When you're testing aero and cooling you need the real shapes and openings. Now that they're back stateside they have a hybrid of wrap and odd tarps/padding on the front rear. My $0.02 is the ring cars are the shape. Only thing will be what's body color and what's carbon or black. I think the final side cove could still be different than the ring cars.
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Originally Posted by Fenwick
Damn that name brings back some memories. Does anyone still have a copy of that pic?
David Palmeter had always been the keeper of all rumors, renderings and spy photos:


From David Palmeter's site

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EDIT:

Later found to have been based on this C5 photo:



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Old 02-11-2019, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chazcron
Here's a blues trio I worked up on this lazy Sunday. No wheel, wing or scoop swap this time.






looks great,now if we could do something with the hocky stick scoop opening

these pics look great though
Old 02-12-2019, 12:22 AM
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Now, this grafting is far from accurate, wide-angle wise, I didn't have time to get it any closer, and I don't know if I really could, but it gives you a general idea.




My apologies to CarScoops.com for removing their watermark for clarity and failing to give credit. They've requested I restore the watermarks and I am happy to comply.

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