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Old 11-05-2018, 01:13 PM
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Default Mystery Cadillac fob appears. Trunk/Frunk/convertible roof

Well this is a new wrinkle.





Source: https://jalopnik.com/what-the-hell-i...-ke-1830222830

As the article says, the Cadillac badging could be intentional misdirection. So don't get your knickers too twisted.

Whatever it is, it's weird.
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Possibly related. Submissions to the FCC by Denso.

Key fob submitted on 11/1. https://fccid.io/HYQ12BFZ

Passive keyless entry receiver module on 10/31: https://fccid.io/HYQB1NA0

Photos of the parts are covered under a short term 180 day confidentiality request. But the diagram of the label on the receiver module confirms this is a GM part.

(Edited to correct the link to the receiver module)

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Intentional misdirection?
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Intentional misdirection?
Suggesting the possibility that this is really for a Corvette branded car, and putting a Cadillac badge on the housing is just to mislead people.

GM uses the same basic fob design across brands, so it's not like they'd have to make something special just to mess with people.
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This fob was designed to mimic the C8's new center console shape.
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Personal opinion is that as mentioned GM uses the same fob's over multiple cars / brands. I have a feeling that this is a future Chevy/Caddy fob that has the guts in it for the new C8, but has the badge for Cadillac because those keys are ready for production and the C8 are not with the new badge. This looks like a legit key for Caddy since the badge is recessed into the key as opposed to just a sticker. But they could be using the caddy portion so as if they misplace it or somehow someone gets a pic of it that the C8 emblem won't be leaked.

Or in a year I will be buying a Cadillac....only time will tell.
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A new wrinkle indeed.
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The "ink" or "printing" of the rear hatch button and the alarm button look a little different than the other buttons. The rear hatch button looks more crisp, especially the 2X text that appears to have some black bordering areas of the text where the other buttons look hazy white. Maybe one of the numerous "in the know" members here can steer us in the right direction. : /
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Originally Posted by rip74
The "ink" or "printing" of the rear hatch button and the alarm button look a little different than the other buttons. The rear hatch button looks more crisp, especially the 2X text that appears to have some black bordering areas of the text where the other buttons look hazy white. Maybe one of the numerous "in the know" members here can steer us in the right direction. : /
Yeah, that does look a little odd. But that's not too surprising if this is an early production test piece. It could just be some quirk of the camera focus too.
Old 11-05-2018, 02:54 PM
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I'm definitely not a Photoshop expert (or even close), but this looks altered to me. Here are a couple of discrepancies/oddities I see:
  1. Red alarm button - red color run into the slope of the button, which should slightly alter the shape of the image. The image looks completely flat with no adhering to the curved portion of the button.
  2. As stated above, the fuzziness vs clarity of the trunk and hood buttons shouldn't exist. Picture was taken from above, so there shouldn't be any depth-of-field variations to account for one fuzzy button and one crisp one.
  3. Two things bother me about the convertible button.
    1. The windshield angle is substantially different than the other images of the vehicle
    2. Note the horizontal line present where the top of the door (not glass) would be. It's only present on the convertible image and not the other two. Just looks off and not consistent with the other images. There's no reason to not use the same base image for all representations. This may be nitpicking, but the image isn't consistent with the others and I can't imagine that kind of oversight on something like this.

The Cadillac logo is definitely embedded, so I agree with some of the others above that the key fob is likely a real Caddy unit (or re-purposed), but I think some of the buttons are Photoshopped. I'm probably wrong, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Ha - the image with the hood open looks like an '84 Firebird.

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I can see this being a ME key FOB; the icons certainly look like a ME car. But I'm not sold on this FOB being evidence that the ME we've seen out testing is a Cadillac.

I could see this being leaked as a diversion, and/or a total hoax.

Nonetheless, it's cool that we've got something new to talk about! 😁
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This appears to be taken with a smart phone. It also isn't directly overhead and has an angle to it. If you look at the background focus you can see it has a bias toward the left. Depending on the phone it'll selectively focus certain areas. The front is off however I don't believe that this is photoshopped but rather a preproduction fob....
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This is for some other new Cadillac car, not for the ME C8 being tested.
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Assuming it's real, it's likely for a Cadillac EV. Possibly the flagship EV we've heard about.
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It could be for the Cadillac EV, But I do think it'd be a little strange for that car to be far enough along to have key fobs, yet we haven't seen a single spy photo of the actual car.

For now I'm sticking to the idea that this specific fob is for the ME car, the Cadillac badge is there to continue to keep the ME logo hidden, and the basic fob design will eventually be shared with other GM models as it is today.

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Originally Posted by FrankLP
I can see this being a ME key FOB; the icons certainly look like a ME car. But I'm not sold on this FOB being evidence that the ME we've seen out testing is a Cadillac.

I could see this being leaked as a diversion, and/or a total hoax.

Nonetheless, it's cool that we've got something new to talk about! 😁
If it's a diversion or a hoax, why would GM deliberately mis-direct the consumer to a car it has no plans to offer for sale?
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Originally Posted by Jeff V.
It could be for the Cadillac EV, But I do think it'd be a little strange for that car to be far enough along to have key fobs, yet we haven't seen a single spy photo of the actual car.

For now I'm sticking to the idea that this specific fob is for the ME car, the Cadillac badge is there to continue to keep the ME logo hidden, and the basic fob design will eventually be shared with other GM models as it is today.
Good point.

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I'll leave this here!

Obviously a total hoax, but you probably didn't read / see this text until you quoted the post.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
If it's a diversion or a hoax, why would GM deliberately mis-direct the consumer to a car it has no plans to offer for sale?
Maybe GM (or someone else) just has a sense of humor, because....

A Hoax is defined as:
A humorous or malicious deception.
"they recognized the plan as a hoax"
synonyms: practical joke, joke, jest, prank, trick

And a Diversion is defined as:
An activity that diverts the mind from tedious or serious concerns; a recreation or pastime.
"our chief diversion was reading"
synonyms: entertainment, amusement, pastime, delight, divertissement

I'm not taking this FOB all that seriously, but as I mentioned... at least it's giving us all something new to talk about.

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