When do you think we'll get official "word" from GM?
#21
Melting Slicks
Corvette is waiting for the 2019 Porsche 911 reveal so that the Zora can surpass the 911's performance. According to Autocar:
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six. Below that will sit a Turbo model tipped to produce about 570 bhp, and each will have a top speed in excess of 200 mph and cover 0-62 mph in less than 3.0sec."
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8 and Getrag DCT, plus a lot of carbon fiber and magnesium components. This will not be a bargain sports car. It will be a Porsche dominator.
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six. Below that will sit a Turbo model tipped to produce about 570 bhp, and each will have a top speed in excess of 200 mph and cover 0-62 mph in less than 3.0sec."
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8 and Getrag DCT, plus a lot of carbon fiber and magnesium components. This will not be a bargain sports car. It will be a Porsche dominator.
#22
Melting Slicks
Corvette is waiting for the 2019 Porsche 911 reveal so that the Zora can surpass the 911's performance. According to Autocar:
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six. Below that will sit a Turbo model tipped to produce about 570 bhp, and each will have a top speed in excess of 200 mph and cover 0-62 mph in less than 3.0sec."
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8 and Getrag DCT, plus a lot of carbon fiber and magnesium components. This will not be a bargain sports car. It will be a Porsche dominator.
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six. Below that will sit a Turbo model tipped to produce about 570 bhp, and each will have a top speed in excess of 200 mph and cover 0-62 mph in less than 3.0sec."
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8 and Getrag DCT, plus a lot of carbon fiber and magnesium components. This will not be a bargain sports car. It will be a Porsche dominator.
they will sell every 450 hp car they can build in year 1 and 2... beyond that higher performance variants will be offered to keep the demand high
#23
Melting Slicks
He is fighting the wrong war..believes Corvette should be venturing off into the 150-200k segment,And have its *** had by the big boys.
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jimmyb (11-24-2018)
#24
those thinking that pricing will coincide with the release of the car are going to be disappointed
there may be some vanilla "if you can afford x you can afford y" quotes but there will be nothing concrete until Q2
to beat a dead horse my guess is NYC and a base $63995
there may be some vanilla "if you can afford x you can afford y" quotes but there will be nothing concrete until Q2
to beat a dead horse my guess is NYC and a base $63995
.Keep this in mind though.........the early purchasers will get the lowest MSRP pricing. That was proven with the C7. You snoozed, your pricing went up
several thousands of dollars less than 1-year into production.
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tooold2race (11-24-2018)
#27
I'm not sure on date but will chime in and say on pricing the base (imho) will start around 8-10 k above mark for those wanting to be the 1st to have at whatever cost. Look at how much a base C7 was in late 2013? They were 70-75kish for a 1lt lol then came down to reality5-6 months later.
#28
Melting Slicks
What is the Point?
Does Corvette want all the media making the point that 911 will eat it for breakfast? Does Corvette want to lose badly every comparison shoot out? How does putting a guaranteed loser on the market sell cars?
#29
Melting Slicks
Apparently you want to see Corvette get its *** handed to it in every competition with 911 over the next 5 years. I think Corvette would never concede the field to 911 because GM and Corvette have a long, proud history to defend. You just want another bargain priced sports car with a mid engine that accomplishes nothing. Corvette wants to conquer the sports car world with a superior machine that will dominate Porsche.
#30
Melting Slicks
Apparently you want to see Corvette get its *** handed to it in every competition with 911 over the next 5 years. I think Corvette would never concede the field to 911 because GM and Corvette have a long, proud history to defend. You just want another bargain priced sports car with a mid engine that accomplishes nothing. Corvette wants to conquer the sports car world with a superior machine that will dominate Porsche.
Check this out on Tuesday
newstv.porsche.com
World debut of the new 911,
Streaming live in America,Europe and China,this is their most important sports car model .
Please watch the reveal,
And then ....Tell me the Corvette should be priced above the 911’s estimated price of 92 000$????
Impossible.
#31
Burning Brakes
Wouldn't it be a heckuva thing to learn that the ME spy photos are a decoy -- that the C8 will be the traditional front-engined Corvette we all have come to love and long for? Going ME has been conjectured for decades, and it never happened. Both the ZR1 and several exotics have no trouble putting down tremendous hp with RWD. Only the racing guys really need the ME design. Just some thoughts as I ponder the ME question!
#32
Thanks for your reply PCM,
Check this out on Tuesday
newstv.porsche.com
World debut of the new 911,
Streaming live in America,Europe and China,this is their most important sports car model .
Please watch the reveal,
And then ....Tell me the Corvette should be priced above the 911’s estimated price of 92 000$????
Impossible.
PCM obviously doesn't understand anything about GTLM racing, and that: 1) manufacturer's street cars have little more than a superficial resemblance to their race cars; and 2) the sanctioning body will ultimately make every manufacturer competing essentially equal in terms of performance.
You can't buy a 911 anything even close to what Porsche is currently racing in GTLM. Not a single mid-engine Porsche RSR has been produced for the street. If anyone should have wiped the competition off the GTLM map recently, it would have been the Ford GT. They did for the first few races after sorting out their introductory, mechanical issues, but then they were brought down to earth with BOP adjustments.
Having said the above, an ME design across the board should improve the racing series, because the other ME cars won't have to be BOP penalized as much. Unfortunately, there will be one FE car left in the series (M8) unless BMW pulls out, so it will bring all the others down.
Last edited by Foosh; 11-24-2018 at 03:14 PM.
#33
Le Mans Master
Corvette is waiting for the 2019 Porsche 911 reveal so that the Zora can surpass the 911's performance. According to Autocar:
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six.
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8
"The initial range-topper of the new 911 line-up will be the Turbo S, which will feature a 620 bhp twin-turbo 3.8-litre flat six.
For Zora to exceed those numbers, it will need the 5.5L TT V8
#35
Melting Slicks
Just Another Fiero, Right?
Just build another piece of junk and call it a day, right?
#36
You really do love comparing apples and oranges and then leaping to bizarre conclusions don't you? Your brain works in very strange ways. You do realize that technology has progressed just a little bit in the last 35 years don't you? If not, check out the performance numbers on a 1983 Porsche 911.
Last edited by Foosh; 11-24-2018 at 05:05 PM.
#37
Two more choices
5. Never
6. When ever GM decides the car and GM is ready.
GM is laying off 7000 salaried 12+ years experienced people (old petrol heads)
7000 factory hourly layoffs later rumoured
May well do a reduced car production lineup like Ford.
I'm sure execs ask every year for a cost benefit of the racing program.
Or How much can we save by delaying/canceling ME?
If it's not ready now do you rush testing/take chances? The NSX went to the Nurburgring 20 times.
Speaking of early announcements
Interesting history for those that didn't live it.
Dec 11 2011 Acura announces they will show and announce the new NSX concept at Detroit Auto show in 2012.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...t-for-detroit/
After major engine/trans changes here was the result in 2017 detailing Acura's misery.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...017-acura-nsx/
5. Never
6. When ever GM decides the car and GM is ready.
GM is laying off 7000 salaried 12+ years experienced people (old petrol heads)
7000 factory hourly layoffs later rumoured
May well do a reduced car production lineup like Ford.
I'm sure execs ask every year for a cost benefit of the racing program.
Or How much can we save by delaying/canceling ME?
If it's not ready now do you rush testing/take chances? The NSX went to the Nurburgring 20 times.
Speaking of early announcements
Interesting history for those that didn't live it.
Dec 11 2011 Acura announces they will show and announce the new NSX concept at Detroit Auto show in 2012.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...t-for-detroit/
After major engine/trans changes here was the result in 2017 detailing Acura's misery.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...017-acura-nsx/
#38
Melting Slicks
Those who think Corvette is building a ME just to be trendy will be sadly disappointed when the high-tech dominator arrives. Zora will not be an engineering exercise that accomplishes nothing like the NSX.
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#39
Le Mans Master
Wouldn't it be a heckuva thing to learn that the ME spy photos are a decoy -- that the C8 will be the traditional front-engined Corvette we all have come to love and long for? Going ME has been conjectured for decades, and it never happened. Both the ZR1 and several exotics have no trouble putting down tremendous hp with RWD. Only the racing guys really need the ME design. Just some thoughts as I ponder the ME question!
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fpfaeth (11-25-2018)
#40
I don't get why some around here feel a Porsche 911 has ALWAYS been THE competitor of the Corvette.
I really don't know many Vette owners who seriously consider a Porsche purchase when buying a new Corvette.
For them, the only competition is a previous gen Vette.
I really don't know many Vette owners who seriously consider a Porsche purchase when buying a new Corvette.
For them, the only competition is a previous gen Vette.
Last edited by sunsalem; 11-25-2018 at 02:55 AM.