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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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There is a button above the leather covered infotainment controller that appears to have a icon that represents the rear hatch opened up. It has the shape of the rear ventilator frame with a center rib down the middle. There's a real possibility of a split window detail as there's really no reason to have full vision out the back of that heavily sloped and distorted rear window when they now have a wide angle Digital Rear View Streaming Mirror/Camera. The shape of that rear hatch ventilator frame could easily allow a glass overlay detail that could create a split window look or leave it off for people that don't want it. With that rear view camera a rear window is actually unnecessary.

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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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There is a button above the leather covered infotainment controller that appears to have a icon that represents the rear hatch opened up. It has the shape of the rear ventilator frame with a center rib down the middle.There's a real possibility of a split window detail as there's really no reason to have full vision out the back of that heavily sloped and distorted rear window when they now have a wide angle Digital Rear View Streaming Mirror/Camera. The shape of that rear hatch ventilator frame could easily allow a glass overlay detail that could create a split window look or leave it off for people that don't want it. With that rear view camera a rear window is actually unnecessary.
Not so. A conventional functional rearview mirror is still a requirement. The virtual mirror converts at the flip of a switch. This has been discussed many times already and at one point I posted a section of the relevant code.

The center icon is clearly for the rear hatch. The right is possibly for the roof, and what we see is a convertible.
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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Is this the icon you're speaking of?
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:24 AM
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There is some kind of distortion in that image. Here is another

There are 3 buttons in that array, and on a convertible there are three things to open.


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Not so. A conventional functional rearview mirror is still a requirement. The virtual mirror converts at the flip of a switch. This has been discussed many times already and at one point I posted a section of the relevant code.

The center icon is clearly for the rear hatch. The right is possibly for the roof, and what we see is a convertible.
True, but the virtual mirror can function both ways. There are already cars out now that essentially have no rear window but do have a digital rearview streaming camera to compensate.
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True, but the virtual mirror can function both ways. There are already cars out now that essentially have no rear window but do have a digital rearview streaming camera to compensate.
Don't think so. Name one.
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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There are lots of them that have little to no rear window. McLaren Senna, Lambo Aventador, Bugatti Chiron Sport. In fact the Bugatti Chiron Sport is a Split rear window.

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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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Fascinating and great catch. If the button image were clearer we could learn a lot.
Rear window does have some interesting angles.

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In fact, it kind of makes all sorts of sense to do this as the 63 split window coupe is a Icon for Corvette. They could treat the rear window frame as a design element that could be Matte black, Carbon Flash, Dark Grey, body colored, or even centerline bookmatched Carbon Fiber like the ZR1 and many other high end exotics.

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The Bugatti Divo is also a Split rear window.

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Here is a article on the rear view mirror tech that would allow a split window detail.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/11/...camera-mirror/

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In fact, it kind of makes all sorts of sense to do this as the 63 split window coupe is a Icon for Corvette. They could treat the rear window frame as a design element that could be Matte black, Carbon Flash, Dark Grey, body colored, or even centerline bookmatched Carbon Fiber like the ZR1 and many other high end exotics.
Zora would turn over in his grave! He fought that so hard, he didn't even include it in the first 1963, Grand Sports!

He made so much noise that he won he battel over Bill Mitchell, the GM VP Styling and it was not in the 1964!

That is the problem with car designers! Sometimes "Form" does not provide the proper "Function!"

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Zora would turn over in his grave! He fought that so hard, he didn't even included it in the first 1963, Grand Sports!

He made so much noise that he won he battel over Bill Mitchell, the GM VP Styling and it was not in the 1964!

That is the problem with car designers! Sometimes "Form" does not provide the proper "Function!"
That was before, when there were no options like this new tech. Clearly a rear window is actually not necessary with this new wide view streaming rear camera. In fact a standard traditional rear view mirror has a narrower view image than this new tech.
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This new tech also works much better in a extreme cold environment where windows can frost up and have no vision until you either scrape all the windows or wait for the defrosters to work. With the canopy over that lens the vision would always be clear.
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i don't want to spoil the fun, but didn't Ed Welburn say before that we will see a split window sometimes in the future? Wonder what did he mean?
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i don't want to spoil the fun, but didn't Ed Welburn say before that we will see a split window sometimes in the future? Wonder what did he mean?
Yes, I remember him saying that in some interview !
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Originally Posted by skank
There is a button above the leather covered infotainment controller that appears to have a icon that represents the rear hatch opened up. It has the shape of the rear ventilator frame with a center rib down the middle. There's a real possibility of a split window detail as there's really no reason to have full vision out the back of that heavily sloped and distorted rear window when they now have a wide angle Digital Rear View Streaming Mirror/Camera. The shape of that rear hatch ventilator frame could easily allow a glass overlay detail that could create a split window look or leave it off for people that don't want it. With that rear view camera a rear window is actually unnecessary.
As a former owner of a ‘63 SWC, I’ve often wondered if Chevy would bring back the SW as a distinctive design feature linked to it’s history.
Trademarked nomenclature is easier and less risky to carry forward for legacy purposes and potential marketing appeal.
I don’t think a SW will happen, particularly on a “Zora” model, but speculatively, ‘who knows?’

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