C8 may kill Corvette
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I'm guessing another future "radical departure" for Corvette will be associated with GM's (and auto makers in general) emphasis on moving towards electric (and/or hybrid) technology.
Enjoy the ride!
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Part of the advantage is GM can part bin shop to build a car that lays down numbers of cars costing multiple times more. I think there is market share for at least 2 cars , the ME may canabaliz some FE sales but I bet it will pull people from other brands. Why would GM build a car that in the ends sell less cars, if memory serves me correctly they are in the business of making a profit.
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I'd imagine the front trunk will be roughly the same size.
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In 2001 my wife bought a Boxster. We loaded it up for 2 weeks at the beach, (including a telescope) with no problem. I had a business meeting, and drove it from Rehoboth Beach to DC and back in one day, and it was fantastic. To say a ME car is not practical is only from people who have never owned one.
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In 2001 my wife bought a Boxster. We loaded it up for 2 weeks at the beach, (including a telescope) with no problem. I had a business meeting, and drove it from Rehoboth Beach to DC and back in one day, and it was fantastic. To say a ME car is not practical is only from people who have never owned one.
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In 2001 my wife bought a Boxster. We loaded it up for 2 weeks at the beach, (including a telescope) with no problem. I had a business meeting, and drove it from Rehoboth Beach to DC and back in one day, and it was fantastic. To say a ME car is not practical is only from people who have never owned one.
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The boxster had the same storage capacity as my C7. The "majority" of [inset some type] don't buy $70K sports cars. "Most" people eat at Cracker Barrel.
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Part of the advantage is GM can part bin shop to build a car that lays down numbers of cars costing multiple times more. I think there is market share for at least 2 cars , the ME may canabaliz some FE sales but I bet it will pull people from other brands. Why would GM build a car that in the ends sell less cars, if memory serves me correctly they are in the business of making a profit.
People seem to think that because it is ME, it somehow becomes an exotic. That's simply wrong. At the end of the day, its still gonna be a Corvette, with the engine in a different place
A Ford GT has never been a car that one uses in any sort of useful capacity. People aren't loading them up and driving them cross country. The Corvette HAS been that car.
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Is this some kind of a "deplorable" restaurant, or the people who you think go there? Your answer here:______________
And are they the "type" of people who don't buy Corvettes? Your answer here:________________
Who is this "majority" you speak of that don't buy $70K sports cars---because frankly, with 35,000 Corvettes sold per year (even if you TRIPLE that number to include all other brands and models) and about 252 million people over the age of 18 you seem to state the obvious, but you must mean something else, right? Your answer here:_____________
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Why all this negativity on Cracker Barrel Restaurant? Your answer here:_________________
Is this some kind of a "deplorable" restaurant, or the people who you think go there? Your answer here:______________
And are they the "type" of people who don't buy Corvettes? Your answer here:________________
Who is this "majority" you speak of that don't buy $70K sports cars---because frankly, with 35,000 Corvettes sold per year (even if you TRIPLE that number to include all other brands and models) and about 252 million people over the age of 18 you seem to state the obvious, but you must mean something else, right? Your answer here:_____________
Is this some kind of a "deplorable" restaurant, or the people who you think go there? Your answer here:______________
And are they the "type" of people who don't buy Corvettes? Your answer here:________________
Who is this "majority" you speak of that don't buy $70K sports cars---because frankly, with 35,000 Corvettes sold per year (even if you TRIPLE that number to include all other brands and models) and about 252 million people over the age of 18 you seem to state the obvious, but you must mean something else, right? Your answer here:_____________
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The thing you are missing? The overwhelming majority of buyers couldn't care less where their engine is, so long as the car says CORVETTE. What logic would dictate they would they not understand the performance benefits, but balk at it being ME? I don't doubt there will be a few purists who will boycott it, but they'll be relatively small fish.
I dunno, C3s are still one of only two generations (C7 being the other) that I think look better than my C4. Any non-smog-neutered C3 with the power of my C4 was many times the cost, though, as are the C7s (obviously)
I dunno, C3s are still one of only two generations (C7 being the other) that I think look better than my C4. Any non-smog-neutered C3 with the power of my C4 was many times the cost, though, as are the C7s (obviously)
I get that we have not seen the whole car inside and out, so my theory could turn out to be wrong. But that’s all these threads are about anyway....guesses and conspiracy theories.
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Why all this negativity on Cracker Barrel Restaurant? Your answer here:_________________
Is this some kind of a "deplorable" restaurant, or the people who you think go there? Your answer here:______________
And are they the "type" of people who don't buy Corvettes? Your answer here:________________
Who is this "majority" you speak of that don't buy $70K sports cars---because frankly, with 35,000 Corvettes sold per year (even if you TRIPLE that number to include all other brands and models) and about 252 million people over the age of 18 you seem to state the obvious, but you must mean something else, right? Your answer here:_____________
Is this some kind of a "deplorable" restaurant, or the people who you think go there? Your answer here:______________
And are they the "type" of people who don't buy Corvettes? Your answer here:________________
Who is this "majority" you speak of that don't buy $70K sports cars---because frankly, with 35,000 Corvettes sold per year (even if you TRIPLE that number to include all other brands and models) and about 252 million people over the age of 18 you seem to state the obvious, but you must mean something else, right? Your answer here:_____________
B. I never said "deplorable"... you are the one suggesting that patrons are "deplorable" (where did that come from). I have eaten at Cracker Barrel many time, so I have personal experience.
C. US vehicle sale are roughly 17M units a year. 35K divided by 17M is... gees, my economics degree from lowly Penn State prevents me from calculating beyond 3 significant digits, but I doubt the answer is "a majority" buy Corvettes.
D. Some easier math... 17,000,000 minus 35,000 is 16,965,000 (roughly) so whatever "type" you want to name, the probability is they don't buy a Corvette.
E. Extra credit... as a HPDE instructor I see many younger "folks" (you would lump together a "Millenials" or some other stereotype) who drive performance cars and enjoy exploring performance on the track. As they age, and their incomes go up, they may turn onto "old guys" buying Corvettes 20 years from now.
#117
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i never said they will boycott it. But I did say that mid engine cars generally give up some daily driver functionality that many Corvette owners value. Despite what a few people said about taking trips in Cayman/Boxters, mid engine cars, especially with big V8s, generally have poor trunk space.
I get that we have not seen the whole car inside and out, so my theory could turn out to be wrong. But that’s all these threads are about anyway....guesses and conspiracy theories.
I have little doubt that the C8 will be well engineered to keep a similar amount of space as previous gens, but lets not pretend that was a helluva lotta space to begin with.
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As long as it has cupholders and a spot for 2 sets of golf clubs, it will be an absolute home run. Imagine 750bhp with actual grip below 100mph. The fact that they've made front engine cars that run with mid engine supercars already is incredible. It is absolutely feasible that the ZR1 equivalent, however many years away that is, will legitimately be in hypercar territory.
This is a massive undertaking and 5 years prior to the 09 ZR1 release, people would have said you were off your rocker if you thought GM/Corvette would ever go that far beyond a Z06. Point being, they have a goal in mind and it can only be reached with mid engine.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I wouldn't bet on it.
This is a massive undertaking and 5 years prior to the 09 ZR1 release, people would have said you were off your rocker if you thought GM/Corvette would ever go that far beyond a Z06. Point being, they have a goal in mind and it can only be reached with mid engine.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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