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Old 02-20-2019, 10:58 AM
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Will be all the knuckleheads thinking it is a Ferrari. Asking how you can afford a Ferrari. Weaving into your lane on the freeway while they gawk at what they think is a Ferrari. And all the Corvette owners asking why I put Ferrari shields on my C8 fenders.

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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
The biggest problem will be paying MSRP for a new platform put together by UAW folks who don't "really" care about the fit and finish expected of a car at this price point.
i have been in Bowling Green and shared a few beers with people who put together Corvettes. They are very nice folks who take pride in their work. I never met anyone who reflects your observation. . I also have a C7 which was delivered on Oct 3, 2013 which other then a software update, had zero defects. However you are entitled to your opinion
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You think that's bad? Some will think it is a ME Camaro - and yet others still will swear it's a Cadillac!
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The biggest problem will be paying MSRP for a new platform put together by UAW folks who don't "really" care about the fit and finish expected of a car at this price point.
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All the questions slowing me down. Lol

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lol... fun game: de-badge and watch all the fun that ensues, including those car "experts" at your local coffee & cars.
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Putting up with all the idiots complaining about the tail lights and cup holders.
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Explaining
I know it’s a 4 banger but it’s turbocharged
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
The biggest problem will be paying MSRP for a new platform put together by UAW folks who don't "really" care about the fit and finish expected of a car at this price point.
I bet with all the GM plant closures and lay-offs the UAW workers will be extra diligent when it comes to their part of the process. Now the non-UAW designers and engineers who were responsible
for the reliability of the car should also have been on notice as many of their compatriots have gotten the
heave-ho at other plants like Lordstown.
lot easier to attend to a fit and finish issues than trans/engine/electrical issues.
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Originally Posted by TBIRD57
I bet with all the GM plant closures and lay-offs the UAW workers will be extra diligent when it comes to their part of the process. Now the non-UAW designers and engineers who were responsible
for the reliability of the car should also have been on notice as many of their compatriots have gotten the
heave-ho at other plants like Lordstown.
lot easier to attend to a fit and finish issues than trans/engine/electrical issues.
Go look at 2019s on the lots... better paint, but panel gap and fit is all over the map. There's no consistency in how they're assembling them. The whole point of converting to the skillet system and slowing the line down was to improve assembly quality. I have no complaints about the mechanicals or interior, just exterior body panel gaps. The car is angular and has sharp lines so it's not forgiving like a curvy C5.
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The biggest problem with owning the first year Midengine Corvette...Fingerprints from all the admirers...
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I'd be amazed if they are not mostly PLAGUED with issues.

It's asking a lot to pull this off at the expected price point.

But you better believe the later years of C8 and All C9 will be magical!
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Explaining
I know it’s a 4 banger but it’s turbocharged
That's what those who were bent over on a 718 say.
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"The BIGGEST problem with owning the first year C8" -------- All the time spent sitting at the GM service dept taking care of recalls and driving a loaner
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
The biggest problem will be paying MSRP for a new platform put together by UAW folks who don't "really" care about the fit and finish expected of a car at this price point.
i have been in Bowling Green and shared a few beers with people who put together Corvettes. They are very nice folks who take pride in their work. I never met anyone who reflects your observation. . I also have a C7 which was delivered on Oct 3, 2013 which other then a software update, had zero defects. However you are entitled to your opinion
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The long wait until it's finally out..
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I’ve had one of the first 14s. Yea it got lot of attention. Now have a16z

My experience has been both cars and the 13 GS I had were excellent cars

Ive had zero issues and I track my cars.

The finish and fit are very good considering all cars have issues theses days with modern paints.

It amazes me what you get for the money.
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The biggest problem will be paying full MSRP, and finding out 18 months later you can get a better specification for less... oh well.

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BTW, snooty comments about UAW workers are uncalled for. While the materials on my car may be a bit below the level on a Porsche, this is an engineering/design decision... the build quality on my car is as good as any German car I've owned (Porsches, Audis, M-Bs and BMWs)
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
i have been in Bowling Green and shared a few beers with people who put together Corvettes. They are very nice folks who take pride in their work. I never met anyone who reflects your observation. . I also have a C7 which was delivered on Oct 3, 2013 which other then a software update, had zero defects. However you are entitled to your opinion
Totally agree. I got my 2014 in March of that year. Never had an issue. Car still runs like new. Did the factory tour and those folks are proud of the product they assemble.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
i have been in Bowling Green and shared a few beers with people who put together Corvettes. They are very nice folks who take pride in their work. I never met anyone who reflects your observation. . I also have a C7 which was delivered on Oct 3, 2013 which other then a software update, had zero defects. However you are entitled to your opinion
There are multiple articles you can read that GM is having a tough time retaining talent. One of their biggest issues is drug use. My 2014 is riddled with panel fit/finish issues. Go walk a lot and look at new ones, paint is vastly improved, but gaps are all over the map. Mechanically my car has been great, but for a car marketed as having 3mm panel gaps and a "gap man" checking every gap at the plant that's just false. None of my C5s had any issues like I've seen on the C7s. Not going to derail this thread, but I've met many people who just don't look at cars closely. I used to be an insurance adjuster so panel fit and alignment are something I notice. The C7 is very poor in this regard, or I should say worse than the C5/6 generations. Next time you're around a lot of C7s start looking at the gaps between the doors to the quarters at the top, the fender to door gaps side to side, how the rear fascia aligns to the quarters;especailly at the top, hood to fender gap side to side and at the front, front fascia to fenders, and a big one is how the character line/crease that flows through the door into the fender lines up; many times the doors are inset from the fender a good bit (no I'm not talking about how the very bottom of the door tucks in). Oh and another good one is the fuel doors... none are centered in the quarter opening because as the cars age the plastic hinge sags.

I've been to BG many times in the C5/6 days and I agree the people cared, but something about the C7 has changed the end result in this one specific area. They didn't switch to the skillet system and slow the line down for no reason. They did it to improve assembly quality. The skillets allow the chassis to be loaded while installing the body panels in an attempt to ensure better outcomes. From what I've seen walking the lot at my local dealer (I buy a lot of parts from them) the gaps and panel alignment are inconsistent and 90% of the cars on the lot has some kind of issue in the areas I mentioned.

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