Is the C8 really going to be angular?
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Is the C8 really going to be angular?
After looking at all the recent mid-engine designs from various manufacturers, I asked myself, "Is Chevy really going to stay with C7-type angularity, or are there a whole bunch of softer lines covered up by that cladding?" So I took bunch of clues and tried to subtract the cladding from a mule. In my opinion this is one way that the car might return to a softer look.
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06-12-2019, 10:14 PM
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I prefer the angular look of the C7. The more rounded C5/C6 look appears very outdated to me (and I owned both of them).
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That is a very talented, very nice rendering, but I believe your wishes for it to be softer significantly effected and biased your outcome.
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The thing is, all these lines are within an inch or two of the cladding surface, I didn't move anything much. I don't know if want softer myself, its just that if something similar is what they want, it could be under there, hidden under the C7-type angles....
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I think the C8 will borrow/evolve from the C7. It’s the natural progression. We’ve already seen it in the headlights and tail lights. The C7 was a necessary transitional design. Going angular and mid engine in one generation would have been too much of a change.
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After looking at all the recent mid-engine designs from various manufacturers, I asked myself, "Is Chevy really going to stay with C7-type angularity, or are there a whole bunch of softer lines covered up by that cladding?" So I took bunch of clues and tried to subtract the cladding from a mule. In my opinion this is one way that the car might return to a softer look.
Mike
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Thanks John,
My point is really, if we go back to my 1980 Seville analogy (from back in Chaz's thread) GM added ten inches to the trunk of that car, just to disguise it for spy photos, then they drove it all over southern Michigan. It fooled Ford into designing a car like that. It worked then, it's working now. We're all trying to get clues from lines we see in the cladding, as well as "accidentally" distributed cad drawings, and such. None of them are real. GM is not going to let anyone make a render that is correct, so they disguise every line. They even put hints of lines, hints that mean nothing. Even ones we now 'think' we've detected, are probably bogus. Somebody over there is laughing at us But we're having fun.
My point is really, if we go back to my 1980 Seville analogy (from back in Chaz's thread) GM added ten inches to the trunk of that car, just to disguise it for spy photos, then they drove it all over southern Michigan. It fooled Ford into designing a car like that. It worked then, it's working now. We're all trying to get clues from lines we see in the cladding, as well as "accidentally" distributed cad drawings, and such. None of them are real. GM is not going to let anyone make a render that is correct, so they disguise every line. They even put hints of lines, hints that mean nothing. Even ones we now 'think' we've detected, are probably bogus. Somebody over there is laughing at us But we're having fun.
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I like your render, with exception to the side vent winglets.
And, if it were up to me, the shape of the side vent would closely match the curve/angles of the glass directly above it. Obviously, just proportioned bigger.
Hopefully whatever the end result is, it flows and looks great.
And, if it were up to me, the shape of the side vent would closely match the curve/angles of the glass directly above it. Obviously, just proportioned bigger.
Hopefully whatever the end result is, it flows and looks great.
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I prefer the angular look of the C7. The more rounded C5/C6 look appears very outdated to me (and I owned both of them).
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I like your render, with exception to the side vent winglets.
And, if it were up to me, the shape of the side vent would closely match the curve/angles of the glass directly above it. Obviously, just proportioned bigger.
Hopefully whatever the end result is, it flows and looks great.
And, if it were up to me, the shape of the side vent would closely match the curve/angles of the glass directly above it. Obviously, just proportioned bigger.
Hopefully whatever the end result is, it flows and looks great.
Overall, the proportion of the vehicle seems to be good, which bodes well for whatever is under that cladding. Many of the renders I see tend to be off on proportion or take liberties with the design. At least this one could really be inside that disguise.
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I prefer the softer look of the C1, the C2, the C3, the C5 and the C6. The more shaper C7 look appears very outdated(like a 1925 Chevy) to me(and I have owned all five generations of them).
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Joe, at least neither of us are claiming to speak for anyone other than ourselves. BTW, I consider the C2 to be rather angular (certainly much more so than the C5/C6).
1925 Chevy doesn't look angular to me:
1925 Chevy doesn't look angular to me:
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Maybe a better phrase would be "hard edged" vs Soft ?
The hints of the pointed/angled hood and hard, deep carved body lines suggest a more dramatic look rather than a rounded, softer look like a 911 or Ferrari 360.
Even the new logo suggests a hard sharp design to me.
something like this... with sharper creases.
That side scoop sure looks familiar...
The hints of the pointed/angled hood and hard, deep carved body lines suggest a more dramatic look rather than a rounded, softer look like a 911 or Ferrari 360.
Even the new logo suggests a hard sharp design to me.
something like this... with sharper creases.
That side scoop sure looks familiar...
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Being as the C5 is my favorite generation, I would love a return to softer curves like the CERV prototypes, but it's not happening. That said, the C8, so far, appears less chopped up than the C7 was/is. I like looking at my C7, but interestingly it's not fun to wash... whereas the C5 was just flowing and curvy.
I'm a big fan of the C8's low hood cowl, and it appears the "double creased flat spot" on top of the C7 fenders is gone in favor for a single crease and then the fender flows down into the hood.
The fine details will have to wait another month, but I don't think you're magically going to get a return the C5 days.
Reading my C7 coffee table book, the designers used the F22 Raptor jet as inspiration. Also, we know they wanted to go mid-engine with the C7. So it's logical this C8 is an evolution of the ME C7 they wanted to build with F22 Raptor cues. As such, it will be hard edged to some degree.
I'm a big fan of the C8's low hood cowl, and it appears the "double creased flat spot" on top of the C7 fenders is gone in favor for a single crease and then the fender flows down into the hood.
The fine details will have to wait another month, but I don't think you're magically going to get a return the C5 days.
Reading my C7 coffee table book, the designers used the F22 Raptor jet as inspiration. Also, we know they wanted to go mid-engine with the C7. So it's logical this C8 is an evolution of the ME C7 they wanted to build with F22 Raptor cues. As such, it will be hard edged to some degree.
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The lines on that Ferrari are very soft, if you ignore the scoop cutting into them. That's the kind of lines I see coming.
What we're seeing on the mules is different, very flat panels, intersecting in hard corners, or as you said, "hard edges", similar to the C7. The rear quarter peak is pure C7. I'd be surprised to see that same look on what's underneath. I'm a bit constrained by the mules proportion and height from changing to a dramatic, Ferrari-type flow. Also I'm trying to include a bit of Corvette heritage in the shape, so the design is intended to be unmistakably Corvette. Here's a better scoop than the one I drew earlier:
Mike
What we're seeing on the mules is different, very flat panels, intersecting in hard corners, or as you said, "hard edges", similar to the C7. The rear quarter peak is pure C7. I'd be surprised to see that same look on what's underneath. I'm a bit constrained by the mules proportion and height from changing to a dramatic, Ferrari-type flow. Also I'm trying to include a bit of Corvette heritage in the shape, so the design is intended to be unmistakably Corvette. Here's a better scoop than the one I drew earlier:
Mike
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End of the day... this is the car.... 99% The main character lines on the quarters and fenders are not padded. Just the side coves and the front end.