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Old 07-16-2019, 09:46 AM
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C4 ZR-1 was wider than the standard car.

C5 Z06 was the same body other than the hardtop roof

C6 Z06/GS/ZR1 was widebody

C7 Z06/GS/ZR1 was widebody

I guess based on that the C5 was the outlier and not the norm... makes sense the car will have different fenders/quarters/bumpers and probably a side scoop design more like the C8R that extends down into the rocker/skirt.
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A toned down C8R body is what I think we are gonna get for the C8 Z’s if they will stick with the Z designations. As it is the C8R looks beastly! The Z’s always look menacing! The C8 R is where I would start looking at for design cues.

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It should have a widebody like the rest of them, plus it needs it so they can put wider tires on it for more performance with the extra power they will ne giving it. I hope it comes with the c8r side scoops I like that one better.
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I hope so. I can't see 700-800 HP going with 245F/305R tires unless the weight of the car is way down.
GT3 RS has 265 fronts, 325 rears. Perfect
Will need a little wider body to run these.
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Car doesn't need widebody panels to setup up tire size that amount, especially looking at the test cars now as the wheels/tires aren't even close to flush with the body. FWIW I ran 295 front and rear on my C7 Z51 for trackdays w/o issue. It's all in the correct wheel offset. GM puts baby tires on the front of the C7/C8 for fuel economy targets (rolling resistance and air drag).
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A wider body makes sense when building a high-powered front-engine production car. The ME should follow the Mclaren, Ferrari & Audi R8 when it comes to more power as these cars are about the same in width. You will have a lot more active or enhanced aerodynamics & possibly larger rear tires. Since its a ME traction is not as much of an issue as an FE. Maybe on the hybrid-electric one, you will have all wheels being powered.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Car doesn't need widebody panels to setup up tire size that amount, especially looking at the test cars now as the wheels/tires aren't even close to flush with the body. FWIW I ran 295 front and rear on my C7 Z51 for trackdays w/o issue. It's all in the correct wheel offset. GM puts baby tires on the front of the C7/C8 for fuel economy targets (rolling resistance and air drag).
And likely to induce understeer before oversteer, since most people are more comfortable with understeer.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Car doesn't need widebody panels to setup up tire size that amount, especially looking at the test cars now as the wheels/tires aren't even close to flush with the body. FWIW I ran 295 front and rear on my C7 Z51 for trackdays w/o issue. It's all in the correct wheel offset. GM puts baby tires on the front of the C7/C8 for fuel economy targets (rolling resistance and air drag).
OEM designs of every car made in the US aren't flush with the body. OEM solutions are different than aftermarket. The spats on the C7Z look like a ridiculous bandaid for an $80K car, and that's to just get to 285.
I think it can be much better done, and I think it will happen. Wasn't the mule testing at Sebring a wide body?
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
And likely to induce understeer before oversteer, since most people are more comfortable with understeer.
Yep... the OEM MPSS was great on track... for 3 laps. Then the 245s were cooked and the car pushed like crazy. The 245/285 was not up to hard tracking the car. Even the C5Z had 265/295s and it was 300 lbs lighter.

I guess my point of this post is will they need to go widebody for a ME car, or will they go back to the C5 style of putting more power and tire under the same body with some minor tweaks?
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It'll probably be narrower
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Originally Posted by fatsport
OEM designs of every car made in the US aren't flush with the body. OEM solutions are different than aftermarket. The spats on the C7Z look like a ridiculous bandaid for an $80K car, and that's to just get to 285.
I think it can be much better done, and I think it will happen. Wasn't the mule testing at Sebring a wide body?
The ME mule wheels look especially sunken in. That said, I'm sure they have GM's performance alignment spec which was -2.0 camber F/R on the C7 which makes the OEM C7 wheels look more laid in for sure.

I have been following this car closely since 2015 and have not seen any wide body mules testing anywhere. I think they're testing TT cars now, but they're in standard bodies.
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We should start an Online Petition to have the One And Only ChazCron Render a Mid Engine Corvette C8 WideBody. Who's In?



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There will be a wide body 100% this shouldn’t even be speculation
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Nut
We should start an Online Petition to have the One And Only ChazCron Render a Mid Engine Corvette C8 WideBody. Who's In?



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Why don't you just snap a pic and post it
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My bet is the Z06 will be a widebody as it has been in the C6 and C7. They will then come out with the GS based on that body style but with less horsepower. . That seems to have been successful for them in the past. The ZR-1 or Zora will likely also be a wide body like the Z06 but with the additional electric motor.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
The ME mule wheels look especially sunken in. That said, I'm sure they have GM's performance alignment spec which was -2.0 camber F/R on the C7 which makes the OEM C7 wheels look more laid in for sure.

I have been following this car closely since 2015 and have not seen any wide body mules testing anywhere. I think they're testing TT cars now, but they're in standard bodies.
The TT car is heavily padded it’s been seen.
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
And likely to induce understeer before oversteer, since most people are more comfortable with understeer.
Less wide tires up front do have certain advantages beyond fuel economy: you don't get the tramling common with super-wide fronts which make a car a bit of a pain on imperfect roads (see the Mustang PP2 reviews for an example), and you typically get better steering feel. The inherent understeer they foster can largely be tuned out if desired by the OEM, although of course with some loss of maximum grip relative to wider fronts.

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Here's a vote in favor of a widebody.
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It looks to me to have been built as a wide body in its base form.
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Originally Posted by jdvann
It looks to me to have been built as a wide body in its base form.
Tadge told us all the C7 was "already a widebody" because it was wider than the C6... then of course they came out with the real widebody when the Z06 introduced.


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