futuregopher

Why else would you get a 911 or cayman/boxster over a C8? Unless you're just a "porsche guy", the clear choice is the C8. Here are some porsche 911 sales numbers after the C7 came out

911 sales by year - 2013; 10.442 2014; 10.446 2015; 9.858 2016; 8.901 2017; 8.970 2018; 9.647

Porsche cayman sales by year are similar. Slight downtrend. Are the 911/cayman buyers just switching out for Cayennes? Maybe but doubtful since Cayenne sales are similar in a trending slightly down year by year manner. MACAN - that's Porsche's cash cow. 7.4k sold in 2014 TO OVER 23.4k in 2018. Good for porsche but doubt the 911/cayman/boxster crowd are trading in their sports cars for Macans but who knows?

The biggest knock on the C6 was the interior and GM rectified that with the C7. 2014-2017 corvettes outsold 911's 3:1.

If you're a Porsche guy, the best thing that will happen to you is the arrival of the C8. It's just like Mustang and Camaro; competition between the two make them BOTH BETTER.

Porsche has been dinging their buyers for the past few years and I won't be surprised that the C8 will be the FINAL straw for them to leave Porsche. Why would you want to spend MORE MONEY to have porsche REMOVE BACK SEATS LOL. OR MORE MONEY TO SWITCH YOUR DOOR HANDLES TO A STRAP LOL.

People bought caymans because of the mid engine feeling and maybe because it's a superior sports car to the 911 but that's a different debate. The 911 starts at over 92k now and for a nicely equipped one, you're at around 125k which isn't supercar money yet but...over 125k...for a 911...? I will admit the build quality is great the 997's from 10+ years ago show that.

Motortrend had head to head episode 82 with the 2017 grand sport vs the 911s. That 911 was 150k!! And still lost out to the C7 grand sport which was 2/3 the price!

The cayman/boxster buyers who want the mid engine feel but don't want to deal with Porsche's dinging and diming them will switch over to the C8 since they're about the same cost anyways. And the 911 guys...well a lot of them will switch over too because of simple economics $$$. All that'll be left of the 911 guys are those who are just 911 guys (nothing wrong with that, 911's are GREAT cars).

BahamaTodd

manual

RedMercy

Oh god... Here we go again...

If money was no object. I would get the Porsche gt2 RS. It's better than what Chevrolet puts out. And will hold its value better too. But since I can't afford one, I'll settle with a Corvette.

bigwoolyg

Nope

pcars will continue to sell to their premium market buyers.

They are fine cars. They offer status and performance. They hold value better. They have a cult following and many of them look down on domestic cars period.

Yea corvettes will sell 2-4 times the cars but pcar sales will not suffer at all

yes corvettes will beat them in the press lap times and hopefully in IMSA

and know what? Having Porsche around making great cars that cost twice what a vette costs is part of the fun. Car talk wouldn’t be half as fun if they weren’t around

TARANTULA

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Zora_Vette

Why can't people just understand basic concepts...

The HACK

The C7 ALREADY has better performance at a lower price, yet Porsche 911 sales number hasn’t changed for the worse since 2014.

what makes you think that trend should change?

ToddC7

Pros of Porsche Cayman:

1) Brand
2) Manual
3) Precision driving
4) Lighter Weight
5) Attention to detail
6) Fantastic, great design, high quality interior
7) Some may prefer the style
8) Better paint quality, better fit-and-finish

WICKEDFRC

"Destroy" is a big word for something that has not yet been revealed let alone proven.

TXshaggy

Lol, nope won’t change the current dynamics. It is what it is and has always been...most Corvette Gens have far outperformed the non GT/Turbo 911s. Moving to ME won’t change the loyalties.

Enjoy your recently acquired C7, aspire to own a C8. Why the hate for a different marquee?

Old School

Those are just the US sales figures thou. Porsche will sell ~35k very profitable 911s worldwide. I doubt anyone in Stuttgart is losing sleep over the upcoming C8.

NoOne

So here is a more plain way of putting it.

If you can afford X brand of car you will buy X brand of car. If you can't, you buy Y.

It is that simple in 90 percent of cases. It is not just the brand but entire experience. It is the brands fulfillment of customer expectations.

On paper and on track the C8 might beat X cars and for an enthusiast that is a reason to buy. Porsches are wildly priced but if you ever sat down and went over a 911 there is a huge build quality difference. The more you know about cars the more you will see the differences.

Porsche has such high profit margins that fuels their quality. At GM you have 2 people fighting over a part that may be $1 more than the other. At Porsche they just throw $50 at it because in their grand scheme it doesn't matter.

I have no doubt they can build a faster car, but overall it will never be a better built car. That is financially impossible.

The Successful Plumber

There’s more exotic cars around here than anywhere else in the world. The import buyers and wealthier people around here don’t usually buy chevys.

bigwoolyg

Only the race team

JoesC5

Combined sales of Cayman/Boxster and 911 was 60,232 in 2018. No way in hell is the C8 even going to come close to that. 911 worldwide were 35,573(which was 10% more than they sold in 2017)

Porsche only sells a fraction of it's sports cars in the US. Just like GM(who only sells 30% of it's products within the US), Porsche is a global car company and sells it's products worldwide. GM's Corvette sales were approximately 20,000 worldwide in 2018 which is 1/3 of what Porsche sold of it's sports cars..

Here are the sales numbers of the 911 since the C7 was released.....

2014----------30,510
2015----------31,350
2016----------32,365
2017----------32,197
2018----------35,573


Why don't you post up the C7's worldwide sales numbers for those years......

zland

Forget percentage of depreciation, pay attention to actual dollars lost due to depreciation and my bet is you lose more dollars owning a Porsche. In addition, if you pay more upfront that money is tied up in a car, depreciating investment vs another investment that actually appreciates.

BIG Dave

This post = LOL

sunsalem

You guys nail it.
Basically, Porsche guys are Porsche guys and Corvette guys are Corvette guys.
Rarely do the twain shall meet.

Yarbie

Lol. 40 years of building 911s is probably a start.

NY09C6

I don’t think a new Corvette will impact Porsche sales. Sure there will be a first/second year bump but then things go back to normal. The engine placement in the Corvette will also not impact anything long term after the first/second year bump.