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Old 07-19-2019, 12:42 AM
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When Mark Reuss was discussing the past CERV models he made some notable comments about the CERV II AWD capability. I immediately perked up and would put money on it that a higher model version will be able to offer this. That could be another big win if so.
Old 07-19-2019, 03:19 AM
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AWD would INSTANTLY sell me one
Old 07-19-2019, 03:23 AM
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AWD/TT, 800+ I am in.
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AWD/TT, 800+ I am in.

I like what Aston is doing with a "non plug in" hybrid. Put an elec motor up front, no battery, TT DOHC at 800,. another 200 or so up front to pull things along

ALL of this is within current capabilities for the team so it will come in due time. The basic platform will be refined to handle this sort of mind bending acceleration

can't wait.
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I'm thinking ZR1
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It's logical that the AWD would be elec assist.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
AWD/TT, 800+ I am in.
C&D confirmed there was a AWD TT prototype built...I would bet we will see a ZXX version with it
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Maybe electric motors on the front. But with that engine/transaxle configuration, AWD doesn't look easily manageable.....
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Electric in front.
Battery in the big empty box backbone.
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I think ''ZORA'' $160,000
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AWD would make me jump at it. I'm hoping for AWD TT with perhaps 48V boost system like Mercedes is now using in many of their cars.. I currently have an AMG GTS (RWD) and it's hard to get all the power down with RWD. . I previously had a CLS63 S AMG (AWD) and handling was superb on track, and no wheel spin with launch control.. AWD is THE future for performance cars. All AMG vehicles in 2021 will be AWD. I'm waiting until next year to buy a C8 and hope AWD will become available in the Z06 (although I plan to buy one anyway!).

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AWD is fine for FE cars, going up or down an incline/decline in nasty winter weather. Otherwise, a well-balanced mid-engine design and rear wheel drive is more than sufficient. Let's wait and see what the track times are like for this design and how it competes with other manufacturers. It looks like it has plenty of room for development with the present rear-drive configuration.....
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Originally Posted by imgn tht
When Mark Reuss was discussing the past CERV models he made some notable comments about the CERV II AWD capability. I immediately perked up and would put money on it that a higher model version will be able to offer this. That could be another big win if so.
The current C8's have an option code stating "CHASSIS DRIVE REAR WHEEL DRIVE" That seems like an odd RPO code to me if you don't plan to have different drive options in on the way.


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AWD is fine for FE cars, going up or down an incline/decline in nasty winter weather. Otherwise, a well-balanced mid-engine design and rear wheel drive is more than sufficient. Let's wait and see what the track times are like for this design and how it competes with other manufacturers. It looks like it has plenty of room for development with the present rear-drive configuration.....
AWD performance cars:
Porsche 911 Turbo S
BMW M5
BMW M8
Mercedes E63 AMG
Mercedes AMG GT63 S
Audi R8
Acura NSX
Nissan GT-R
Jaguar F type SVR
Ferrari SF90
Lamborghini Aventtador
Bugatti Chiron
And many others.
Used for hills in nasty winter weather???!!! The best configuration is that used by Mercedes and BMW: Can be RWD only by the push of a button for those who want to do drifts and spinouts.

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Originally Posted by miroad
AWD performance cars:
Porsche 911 Turbo S
BMW M5
BMW M8
Mercedes E63 AMG
Mercedes AMG GT63 S
Audi R8
Acura NSX
Nissan GT-R
Jaguar F type SVR
Ferrari SF90
Lamborghini Aventtador
Bugatti Chiron
And many others.
Used for hills in nasty winter weather???!!! The best configuration is that used by Mercedes and BMW: Can be RWD only by the push of a button for those who want to do drifts and spinouts.
I have a performance car with AWD and it's great C8's should have come with this feature. Oh yea I have a 19' Outback. Geteup mate...........
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AWD would make me like it a lot more. These days with the amount of power these cars make rwd is useless. And if you haven't launched a 3000lb boosted car off a 2-step you wouldn't understand lol. Sadly GM is always 10-15 years behind the curve so by the time their 160K AWD car comes out what can I buy a used Lamborghini, Porsche, GTR, NSX, R8, etc etc for and why would I buy a chevy over those? That's the REAL question. Give me and AWD Z06 at the ~72K I can buy a c7z at and Hell yeah! Give me a depreciating chevy at Lambo pricing and meh why would I not just get the Lambo?
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They 100% and will sell an electrically assisted AWD model as the top dog. This was already factored in while designing the vehicle, which is how they ran into the chassis issue during testing.

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Old 07-19-2019, 06:58 PM
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Yes, I think AWD is 100% in the future. All I hear is "more weight" on an already big-boned lady.
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Originally Posted by smoove7410
They 100% and will sell an electrically assisted AWD model as the top dog. This was already factored in while designing the vehicle, which is how they ran into the chassis issue during testing.
Agree! This was the so-called 1000hp total hp with the electric assist twisting the frame?
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https://www.onallcylinders.com/2019/...gm-lt-engines/. Did anyone else notice the 902 license plate Easter egg on the GM video showing the trunk switch location? I was thinking the “Lt7” might be an 800hp engine with a 200hp motor, but I’m thinking 902 on the engine is Very doable with flex fuel. Leaving the front unit to be a fairly small 100hp unit. For pulling the front end in the right direction, 100hp is all that’s really needed.

Another point is the Zr1 was always heavier, faster, and a bit more posh than the z06...that’s why I think the Zr1 is the one that gets the extra traction and lower acceleration numbers.

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