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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 03:45 PM
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Miami Dade county will shut down all bars and gyms tonight and the economic tidal wave is coming absolutely not funny !!!!
Maybe it will give the people a chance to relax, spend some quality family time and enjoy some good conversation while enjoying decent home cooked meals. Its not the end of the world if the bars are closed for a few weeks or a month.
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Assuming the plant does close and ends up being more than 2 weeks (which I bet it will if they do shutdown) shouldn't GM offer the option to refund customers who have their orders at 3000 status? I really feel GM put many orders at 3000 prematurely just so the customers have to commit to their order or risk losing their deposit.
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Assuming the plant does close and ends up being more than 2 weeks (which I bet it will if they do shutdown) shouldn't GM offer the option to refund customers who have their orders at 3000 status? I really feel GM put many orders at 3000 prematurely just so the customers have to commit to their order or risk losing their deposit.
Customers did not order from GM. They ordered the car thru their dealer.
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Customers did not order from GM. They ordered the car thru their dealer.
Right if customers back out the dealer will be stuck with the car once it is produced.
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Customers did not order from GM. They ordered the car thru their dealer.
True. But the dealer can say since your car is at 3000 we can't refund your money. So GM should refund the money to dealer no? The car build hasn't even been started yet.

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True. But the dealer can say since your car is at 3000 we can't refund your money. So GM should refund the money to dealer no?
No, why should they?
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No, why should they?
The dealer or GM?
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Neither should be required. **** happens. It all depends on how the contract is worded. My dealer told me before I gave the deposit it was non refundable once 3000 hit. I knew the terms and agreed to them.
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What, coins can't carry the virus?
There's a big difference between cloth and metal. Besides, paper money is tied to currency valuation. Gold and Silver tend to go up in value when monetary value declines.

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Neither should be required. **** happens. It all depends on how the contract is worded. My dealer told me before I gave the deposit it was non refundable once 3000 hit. I knew the terms and agreed to them.
Why shouldn't GM cancel the order so the customer get's his money back? **** happens but the non-refundable cause should be upheld towards the fault of the customer. If I wanted a 2020 model for sentimental reasons and due to this epidemic it ends up being a 2021 model then technically it is not what I ordered.
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Actually, a study I saw cited stainless steel as one of the surfaces where the virus lives the longest. Paper is one of the shortest.
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Originally Posted by Style68
Why shouldn't GM cancel the order so the customer get's his money back? **** happens but the non-refundable cause should be upheld towards the fault of the customer. If I wanted a 2020 model for sentimental reasons and due to this epidemic it ends up being a 2021 model then technically it is not what I ordered.
That's between you, your dealer and the contract all parties agreed to. GM sells the cars to their dealers, they do not sell to individuals.
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Actually, a study I saw cited stainless steel as one of the surfaces where the virus lives the longest. Paper is one of the shortest.
I carry Purell in my pocket. It would work a hell of a lot better on a coin than it would on a bill. And I'm talking gold and silver. I wouldn't be spending my steel pennies anytime soon if I were you.
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Imagine how all of the 3/16 TPW guys feeling (including myself). The strike & now this. Don’t even know what to feel anymore...
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Just follow what is happening in Italy and Spain and add about a month. That is likely what will happen in most of the US. Many are not following the rules. All it takes is one person who has the virus and may not show any symptoms to infect one other person. This will start a cascade of infections. Many do not understand this. I am old enough to remember how measles, chickenpox and mumps would spread through the population until almost every child was infected. In fact, some actually had parties where all the children were brought together so they all could become infected at about the same time thus stopping it from continuing. I am of course not proposing this take place today but that is what will happen if we don't take the drastic measures to stop the virus from being moved through the entire population. No one has ANY immunity to this particular virus so virtually everyone is susceptible. When Angela Merkel said up to 70% of the German population could be infected many thought she was crazy. This actually could happen especially if people do not follow the procedures laid out by government officials. If you are a younger person in good health you may well get infected with little to no symptoms but if you transfer the virus to an older individual who has other health issues you may have issued them a death warrant. This is serious folks.

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Speaking of contracts, I never signed one. Not sure who has. I picked my options and that was it. The only paper I signed was the desired option configuration. Not sure thats enforceable as a binding contract. But at this point I do not want a 2020 delivered in August. I feel for the workers and agree with the shut down.
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Ugh I just hit 3000 status.

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Originally Posted by Style68
Assuming the plant does close and ends up being more than 2 weeks (which I bet it will if they do shutdown) shouldn't GM offer the option to refund customers who have their orders at 3000 status? I really feel GM put many orders at 3000 prematurely just so the customers have to commit to their order or risk losing their deposit.
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Customers did not order from GM. They ordered the car thru their dealer.
Originally Posted by thill444
Right if customers back out the dealer will be stuck with the car once it is produced.
Originally Posted by Style68
True. But the dealer can say since your car is at 3000 we can't refund your money. So GM should refund the money to dealer no? The car build hasn't even been started yet.
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
No, why should they?
Originally Posted by Style68
The dealer or GM?
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Neither should be required. **** happens. It all depends on how the contract is worded. My dealer told me before I gave the deposit it was non refundable once 3000 hit. I knew the terms and agreed to them.
Originally Posted by Style68
Why shouldn't GM cancel the order so the customer get's his money back? **** happens but the non-refundable cause should be upheld towards the fault of the customer. If I wanted a 2020 model for sentimental reasons and due to this epidemic it ends up being a 2021 model then technically it is not what I ordered.
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
That's between you, your dealer and the contract all parties agreed to. GM sells the cars to their dealers, they do not sell to individuals.
If you have a 2020 on order (regardless of the current status), if it does not get built during the 2020 model year, then your dealer is unable to keep their end of the contract (they have contracted to deliver a 2020 Corvette). Therefore, a refund is due to the purchaser. Furthermore, any orders not built when 2020 MY production ends are automatically void. Dealers will probably contact anyone in this situation and offer the choice of getting a refund or putting in an order for a 2021 MY, but how each dealer will handle it is up to them.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
If you have a 2020 on order (regardless of the current status), if it does not get built during the 2020 model year, then your dealer is unable to keep their end of the contract (they have contracted to deliver a 2020 Corvette). Therefore, a refund is due to the purchaser. Furthermore, any orders not built when 2020 MY production ends are automatically void. Dealers will probably contact anyone in this situation and offer the choice of getting a refund or putting in an order for a 2021 MY, but how each dealer will handle it is up to them.
Thanks, when does the 2020 MY end? I have a HTC at 3000 that originally had a 4/20 tpw.
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It is strictly going to be a cash only at the super markets and gas stations because the satelites are being shut down for maintance!
What oil do they use!



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