Agreed. Newer is always better.

When was the last time a new gen corvette was worse than a previous gen corvette? Never happened. Each generation has gotten better and better. More efficient, faster, and overall better quality.

The C7 quality is a HUGE improvement over the C6 and the C8 quality is a HUGE improvement over the C7.

And let's not even talk about numbers, because the C8 will win again. Dare i say it? 0-60 in 2.8 and 11.1 in the 1/4?

Like come on man. SHEESH!

 

No more simple than this, newest generation of Corvette is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, best. Can you hear that Sprayer?

 

He wouldn't know. He's stuck in C6 la la land LOL

The only C6 worth mentioning ever is the C6 ZR1.

 

When you say the C8 beat a C7Z06 to 112, are you talking about the time it takes for each to get to 112mph? Can you tell me how fast a C8 traps in a 1/8 mile and how fast an C7Z06 with it’s inferior auto trans traps in a 1/8 mile for comparison?

 

I was in market for c7z or c7zr1 and there just arent many for sale how I want so I think I'm just gunna order brand new c8z

Not to mention I think c7z are way overpriced.. the 2017-2019 should all be in $55k-$65k range by now with c8 out IMO... many have been sitting for sale for months

 

I thought the value is dropping on C7Z's? I think the value might hold steady until the news announcement of the C8Z finally.

But we've been waiting so long you might as well just wait for the C8Z. Or you can get a C8 stingray and forget about the C7Z all together.

Performance is closer than most people think anyway. C7Z will be faster on the top end but from 0 to about 112 or so, the C8 is the winner.

 

C8 generation.

The C8 is failing hard with all the defects, sorry to say it was a bean counters build with all the quality issues that are popping up. Some of the issues are an embarrassment, huge embarrassment. But this was predicted that they skimped on quality.

GM can't even keep the hood latched on the C8. Makes you wonder about the other stuff on the car. But yeah newer is better for sure! They could not even get the fuse diagram label correct, lost for words on that one.

But at least they have people like you to buy up 2nd rate stuff.

Wonder how many people will need to die this time before anything is done.

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Wow so many exaggerations here. Zhostick on one side fanboy for the c8. Will defend it till the cows come home no matter what. It’s the perfect car. Then hit have this dude above me with his bs. Bean counter decision? Lack of quality? The car has over 10 years of engineering that went into it. Are you kidding? This is one of the most over engineered cars gm has ever produced and it’sa massive home run abs a great car. A first effort at a mid engine platform and they nailed it at a price point no one else in the world can touch.

No car is perfect and neither is the c8. The latch issue will be resolved. I promise you gm will fix it. What else is such a major issue?

As far as c8 the quality might **** on c6 but not c7. Sorry zhostick you’re wrong. C7 interior is very nice albeit c8 is nicer. It’s not the night and day your spouting. On certain tracks the c7 z51 is neck and neck with c8 z51. That’s how it’s is period. That’s not the end of the world. Just goes to show how good c7 platform really was. C8 z06 should bring us head and shoulders above c7z06. Which I’m hoping it does cause i want one. If it’s not way better than I’ll hang onto my Callaway z for a few more years car is fantastic with the m7 no less. So ya both great cars in different irrespectives.

No need to fanboy either side. Both corvettes. Both fantastic imo.

Just had to add this. I wish Jim Mero wasn’t retired and was able to push the c8 to the limits the way he did c7. It would be awesome to hear his honest assessment between both platforms. No one knows the c7 platform better than him. Try telling him the c7 was interior to other mid engine’s.

 

Clearly. I mean just look at how much they are having to discount to sell them. They are practically having to give them away.

 

There's much wrong with what you're saying. Every generation isn't always better - 3 series, Miata, 911, etc. - many examples of where newer wasn't always better. In the case of the Corvette, I'd say the front engine cars have mostly gotten better (though I wouldn't say no to a C2), but the C8 is a completely different direction; better in many ways, overall a better choice for many, but worse for others. I would have EASILY preferred a front engine'd C8 with greater refinement, lower weight, smaller size with the usual improvements in handling/hp, while retaining the playful nature / no understeer 50/50 weight distribution of FE. Less ugly and a manual would be nice too. It's a sportscar after all, and if you're not fully comfortable getting it all sideways then what's the point? The 0-60 that you seem obsessed with, that the ME platform actually sticks, is actually no more fun unless your idea of fun is bench racing.

And the "sleep better at night owning what they own" is such a stupid argument, the C8 is affordable, someone who bought a new corvette in the past should be able to buy a C8 if it's that amazing to them, no?

 

the 2015-2016 are the most discounted but 2017-2019 haven't really depreciated much yet.

 

If you have not been watching the used and new car market values are affected by supply and demand and you have lenders that cannot repossess cars right now due to Covid, lenders who are giving people 3-6 months loans with no interest, and people using stimulus money to buy cars or help make payments.

At some point the cows will come home and lenders will start repossessing cars and people who have not made car payments in many months will have to.

It's a good time to sell a car, I have watched the value of my GT350 go up $5-7K since I bought it just a few months ago. It's the same with used/new C7's right now. Very low inventory and prices are staying up there. In 3-6 months I think you will see a sharp decline, but we will have to wait and see.

Very crazy times.

 

Honestly I have considered abandoning corvette and getting a lexus of some sort since their quality + dealer service is so good.....

In the end I will likely get a c8z tho

 

thill444:
Very good suggestions. I did watch the Savagegeese review, hence my questions. I have a friend who is in the same boat and is looking at a C7Z because he wants a manual. I could live with the DCT IF it reacts like a manual...that is, when you downshift it really raises the revs like a manual would; the paddle shift autos I've driven are mushy when they downshift and there doesn't seem to be the direct connection that a manual gives. Maybe a C8 owner could comment.

Thanks for your taking time to help me.

 

This isn't an issue with just the C8, many (if not all) performance sportscar/supercar manufacturers have this issue. Talk to many Ferrari, McLaren, Porsche, Lambo, etc owners who are true cars guys and want that "raw feeling", and they'll tell you the same thing. Part of it is the loss of the manual transmission on most, with only Porsche really doing a change in direction and keeping the manual (although making it often a more expensive option). Gordon Murray talks about his a little in an interview on his new T.50 Hypercar.

OP I'm going through the similar decision right now (get rid of my 15 Z51 M7 and buy a used C7 Z06 M7 or wait for the C8 Z06) and it's a hard one. I've always had manual sports cars and loosing that on the C8 would be tough, but the C8 has a lot of benefits as well. Of course I've also got a 91 ZR-1 with a built 600HP engine and a 6-spd manual, so even if I go C8 I'll still have a "raw" manual sports car to have fun in. And maybe that's your answer, buy a C8 but also find a "weekend" raw car (C5 Z06, C6 Z06, etc).

 

Idk. My friends friend was looking at a 2018 a8 for 55k. That's pretty cheap already. I told him if hes set on the auto try to get a c8 since the performance is almost there but he said he wanted a supercharged car. I told him dude it's not a hellcat, you're not gonna hear the whine lol

 

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However after taking the Ron Fellow's Performance Driving class at Spring Mountain in the C8, and listening to the instructors that instruct on both the C7Z06 and C8 (they do C7ZR1 too), I asked them which was faster on the track between the C8Z51 and C7Z? They said on a shorter course with less straight away distance that the C8 is the same or faster than the C7Z. The only place the C7Z outshines the C8 Z51 is on courses that have longer straights where the additional 150hp offers a big advantage. But they say when the C8Z06 comes out with 100 more hp (600 hp), more aero, and wider tires, it will eclipse the C7Z built as it should. I have no reason to doubt them as they track the cars every week and they weren't really looking to over hype anything.

As far as my own experience I can feel a big difference in the way the C8 feels vs. the C7Z. Where the C7Z feels beastly and bad ***, the C8 feels refined and confident in the corners and the lack of weight in the nose is very noticeable when cornering. It simply feels planted and easy to drive in and out of the corner. I don't get into all of the 0-60 sec crap as my Tesla does that and so have my bikes, and modified Corvettes...no big deal. But the driving experience is what I like about the C8 it simply feels better than the C7 all around...and I love my C7Z.

Then there is the WOW factor, where people see the C7Z and glance or look, with the C8 phones come out blazing to take pics, people stop at lights and roll their windows down to comment how great the car looks, and people make a point to pass to give thumbs up. It is a lot of fun just from that factor. The only real haters I have experienced others in this section who don't even own the car.

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You comments from the Ron Fellows instructors were very helpful.. I have done the Ron Fellows two day event and drove a C7Z51. It handled nicely, but on the straight it seemed a bit anemic compared to my stock C6Z. And greatly appreciate your comments about the C7Z and the C8!

 

When you downshift in Track mode it definitely raises the revs. Feels and sounds awesome. You can also hold both paddles in at the same time to disengage the clutch and rev it.

 

Yeah I can't imagine a C7Z51 would feel as good as your C6Z on the track. As far as my post I'm just trying to answer the OP's question unlike some others on this thread and every other thread bashing the C8. I offer real world comparison owning and driving both cars on the street and track...yet there are others on here who don't own the car, read magazines, have a buddy, or watch Youtube that know all about it.

That was a cool feature I didn't know about it until I attended the RF Performance School. I was driving last weekend and came up on an orange Lambo all stickered out, must have been his dad's car because he looked scared to death. We were at the signal and I pulled in both paddles and rev'd the engine then took off. He stayed way back. My only wish is that my C8 sounded like my C7Z at high rpms...but that is one thing you can't do in the C7Z with an A8 is rev like you are pushing in the clutch.

 

Well I’m one of the outliers here for sure. I don’t own a c8 yet waiting on z06 variant but I have driven two different c8’s. One z51 and one non. I happen to think it’s fantastic. That said I also think the c7’s are fantastic and all variants. They are a totally different experience as far as I’m concerned. Both equally cool in my book. I really hope they make the z a 750hp beast. Car will be wicked.