Another C8 casualty.....lift fail.
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If they lift outside the frame that 150 lbs does nothing! Also 150 lbs in the Frunk does little for a 60% rear 40% front weight 3600 lb car.
Use lift pads placed in the GM designated frame oval slots and no issues!
If they lift outside the frame that 150 lbs does nothing! Also 150 lbs in the Frunk does little for a 60% rear 40% front weight 3600 lb car.
Use lift pads placed in the GM designated frame oval slots and no issues!
Last edited by JerryU; 03-11-2021 at 07:40 PM.
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Execept the 1st one reported that fell of the lift was at a Chevy dealership. The first, and only time I have taken my car to any type of auto business was to have the Xpel installed. Got a call later that day "uh is your front splitter oem or aftermarket?" And this is a shop that does a lot of high-end, expensive sports cars. The manager wasn't happy to find out the oem carbon fiber splitter from GM was over $1,800 plus paint. I don't take my car to the tire shop, I take the wheels off at home and bring them in - oh wait, but the guy came out, "uh did your wheel have a gouge out of it by the valve stem?" After they repaired the wheel, the tire slowly loses air, so I need to go back to Discount Tire and find out what they're going to do. The best solution is to learn how to perform maintenance and repairs yourself.
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I'm similar and no one lifts my Vettes without using the jack pads I bring and I watched from an open service bay! Just had a nail in my C8 tire. It was near the side wall and have "insurance from Discount Tire." Got a free $400 rear tire. When they called and said the tire ordered on a Monday was in on Wednesday, brought the tire and wheel to them. Told the manager I would wait for their best tech who has done, low profile, wide run flats but wanted zero rim marks and there would be a large tip.
When the ~30 year old tech look the wheel/tire from my wife's SUV I told him there would be a $20 tip if there were zero marks on my rims! He looked carefully to be sure there were none. Watched from the open bay as he put on the new tire. He used and interesting approach to get the new tire to seat I had not seen in my 5 previous Vette flats I had fixed. He called two other techs over and they spaced themselves around the tire and pressed in as he filled with air! Worked, snapped in place on that wide rim.
Job was perfect and he got the $20! Have to put in effort to have it done right!
I'm similar and no one lifts my Vettes without using the jack pads I bring and I watched from an open service bay! Just had a nail in my C8 tire. It was near the side wall and have "insurance from Discount Tire." Got a free $400 rear tire. When they called and said the tire ordered on a Monday was in on Wednesday, brought the tire and wheel to them. Told the manager I would wait for their best tech who has done, low profile, wide run flats but wanted zero rim marks and there would be a large tip.
When the ~30 year old tech look the wheel/tire from my wife's SUV I told him there would be a $20 tip if there were zero marks on my rims! He looked carefully to be sure there were none. Watched from the open bay as he put on the new tire. He used and interesting approach to get the new tire to seat I had not seen in my 5 previous Vette flats I had fixed. He called two other techs over and they spaced themselves around the tire and pressed in as he filled with air! Worked, snapped in place on that wide rim.
Job was perfect and he got the $20! Have to put in effort to have it done right!
Last edited by JerryU; 03-11-2021 at 08:29 PM.
#86
The owner posted on another website that this was not at a dealer, that he was having an aftermarket exhaust installed, and that the shop was writing him a check for the full value. Whether that means MSRP or over, no idea.
He actually sounded pretty chill over the whole thing.
He actually sounded pretty chill over the whole thing.
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It's because physics are physics and that lift (length of arms and vehicle weight distribution) is based on a front engine and transmission car. If the C8 had been backed into the spot and lifted it would not have been an issue. When you take a lift designed for the majority of the weight being in the front and then load a machine with the majority of it's weight in the rear, bad things happen.
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Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
Last edited by JerryU; 03-12-2021 at 05:14 PM.
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Personally I use 2 hockey pucks. Give me the clearance I need to remove the under trays. If I was removing any major components I’d use only one so it’s not space so high. I try to lift all the Corvettes on my asymmetric lift just because door clearance is so much better.
Unfortunately there are a lot of slugs out there posing as technicians. It’s why I preach to get to know your tech. I like meeting all my customers.
Last edited by ChiTownVetteTech; 03-12-2021 at 08:20 PM.
#91
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As Jerry said above. It makes NO difference if you use a sym lift or an asy. lift. If you use the correct lifting points the arms can be to the front, to the rear or straight in and the car will not fall off the lift. If you have it really *** backwards the lift may fail (cheap lift) or the lift may come loose from the concrete it is mounted to but the car will only fall off if the lift fails. You can put a lot of undue stress on the lift by not having the car properly positioned but it will not fall off if you use the correct lifting points.
Be safe out there.
Be safe out there.
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Hello, Mr. Smith? About your C8, yeah, we had an issue. Funniest thing happened, it seems our tech lifted it in the wrong place and yeah, that was bad. Anyhoo, the car fell off the lift and suffered some damage. We’re looking into making the needed repairs, at our cost of course. So yeah, I’m really sorry about this. I’ll get back to ya soon as I can Mr. Smith. Oh, I need the Kia loaner back by closing time tonight, I have another customer taking it first thing in the AM don’t ya know. Well, have a good night sir.
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Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
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^^^
Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
Yep, symmetrical, asymmetrical arms, can all work IF you lift on the frame! However it's not easy to see the GM oval slots. Doubt many techs will do what I do to place my Jack Pads. Have my head on the garage floor.
Even Chuck at Rick Conti (who is very knowledgeable) just reaches under to place his Jack Arm Pads. Yep he's good enough BUT many techs are not. Very easy to put their lift arm pads outside the frame as the oval frame slot ~8+ inches in from the body! I reviewed with the great Corvette Tech who did my PDF's and alignment. He agreed using lift pads that contact the lift arm pads assures you're lifting where GM specifies on the frame!
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Safety first.
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