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Old 10-31-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hamta
And yet you continue to buy them, one after the other? HOW STRANGE IS THAT???
Because not everyone is a chicken little.....

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Sorry to hear your car has transmission problems. Best of luck with the dealer repair and hope this will be the last problem for a long time.
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Awful, hopefully you’re not out on the sidelines for too long 😔

That said, are there any statistics out there on C8 transmission failures? I figure this is a case of (rightfully so) vocal minority. The horror stories have done enough to deter me from museum delivery or non courtesy delivery.
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Originally Posted by OkcRod
Nothing like a P1961 code to end the first time to get the car out for a drive. I took delivery of the car at the NCM with it showing a warning code on the back hatch. Replacement latch fixed that issue. Now with 850 miles I took it out for the first time since I drove it home from the NCM and having it filmed and coated. Started to smell a slight burning smell getting it in and out of the garage yesterday but no issue until check engine light came on after about 4 miles from the house. Took to the dealership to check the code and apparently a P1961 code shows the transmission needs to be replaced. By the '22s I figured the transmission issues would have been resolved. I am so frustrated and disappointed.
There was another person here that had their car in a shop getting PPF and ceramic coating. When they got their car back they pulled the PDR logs up and saw that the techs in the shop had taken their car out on the road and beat the SNOT out of it with launch control, etc.
You don't happen to have a PDR do you? Might consider grabbing that SD card and checking the contents.
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Originally Posted by ArbyC8

That said, are there any statistics out there on C8 transmission failures? I figure this is a case of (rightfully so) vocal minority. The horror stories have done enough to deter me from museum delivery or non courtesy delivery.
GM will never release those. What will happen is sometime next year or the year after they will release a statement saying they identified a small issue with the machining or supplier that affected less than 5% of all cars produced and it has been rectified.

Then 8-10 years from now, we’ll see post after post from the 2nd, 3rd owners of a car with low miles that is “pristine” having transmission issues. The car will be out of warranty and GM will point back to the previously released statement & blame the owner. It’s turning into the LS7 all over again. I do feel bad for new owners who have to deal with it. Good luck with the repairs.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Torque is what grenades drivetrains.
And the LT6 torque is less than the LT2 (460-465)
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Old 10-31-2021, 09:51 AM
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For a regular car I likely would be deterred but I feel like the reward outweighs the risk in this situation. I've never obsessed over a car that I don't even have as much as this one. Maybe I'll sing a different tune if it happens to me. Good luck to the OP for a speedy recovery for your car.
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Originally Posted by JK 23112
It almost makes you wish that there was an option for a manual transmission in the C8.
NO. It doesn’t.
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Originally Posted by ArbyC8
Awful, hopefully you’re not out on the sidelines for too long 😔

That said, are there any statistics out there on C8 transmission failures? I figure this is a case of (rightfully so) vocal minority. The horror stories have done enough to deter me from museum delivery or non courtesy delivery.
I wouldn’t let it do that. I picked mine up at Coughlin Chevy, outside of Columbus and it was an amazing drive back (though rainy). Just really great to get to know my new C8 for 7 hours. If you are thinking of Museum delivery, it is a bucket list experience, regardless if you are a long time Corvette fan or this your first. I took museum delivery on my ‘08 Vert and it was one of the most solid cars I ever owned. I know their PDI process is top notch, and while I feel bad for OKCRod, I do think the chance of total vehicle failure that would prevent you from making it back Chicago are minimal.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
GM will never release those. What will happen is sometime next year or the year after they will release a statement saying they identified a small issue with the machining or supplier that affected less than 5% of all cars produced and it has been rectified.

Then 8-10 years from now, we’ll see post after post from the 2nd, 3rd owners of a car with low miles that is “pristine” having transmission issues. The car will be out of warranty and GM will point back to the previously released statement & blame the owner. It’s turning into the LS7 all over again. I do feel bad for new owners who have to deal with it. Good luck with the repairs.
WOW!!! That opinion coupled with the long aggravating process to obtain a C8 is bringing me pause. I am really starting to question my decision to spend $100,000.00 on my dream Car that might become a NIGHTMARE!
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Trans made in Mexico in plant that makes old 7 speed trans???
Old 10-31-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dohabandit
There was another person here that had their car in a shop getting PPF and ceramic coating. When they got their car back they pulled the PDR logs up and saw that the techs in the shop had taken their car out on the road and beat the SNOT out of it with launch control, etc.
You don't happen to have a PDR do you? Might consider grabbing that SD card and checking the contents.
Thankfully I am good friends with PPF and Ceramic guys. Car was picked up with the exact same odom reading as it was left. Not even a mile difference and the shops are 1/2 mile apart. But even launch control at 850 miles shouldn't break the transmission!! It is a performance car that shouldn't break when trying said performance.
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Originally Posted by JK 23112
It almost makes you wish that there was an option for a manual transmission in the C8.
Yep! I told Harlen at Carlisle........... I know I'm wasting my breath but I'd pay dearly for a M option! And he said yea you are........
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Originally Posted by BatesC8
WOW!!! That opinion coupled with the long aggravating process to obtain a C8 is bringing me pause. I am really starting to question my decision to spend $100,000.00 on my dream Car that might become a NIGHTMARE!
it may be an odd thing to consider but....if it's going to be your car for awhile, and you don't want to get stuck with a five-figure bill (if it ever happens), get the "extended warranty" which is really a prepaid service plan, up front and from the car's mfr---no "seconds"---as in alternate companies that may or may not pay you when the time comes.
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Originally Posted by Caymanspyder
I wish GM would/could have partnered with Porsche to build a bullet proof DCT, Just plain poor quality to see so many fail. Rather have German built than Canadian built any day!
.. and Porsche doesn't have any problems? L0L

Although not PDK, my brothers Mecan had 3 transfer cases: the original failed, the replacement failed, finally a redesigned transfer case worked. He sold it and is buying a C8.
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Originally Posted by AORoads
it may be an odd thing to consider but....if it's going to be your car for awhile, and you don't want to get stuck with a five-figure bill (if it ever happens), get the "extended warranty" which is really a prepaid service plan, up front and from the car's mfr---no "seconds"---as in alternate companies that may or may not pay you when the time comes.
Often times you’ll hear that extended service contracts are a waste of money, but there are a few different caveats to that.

1. shop around for the factory-backed service contract. You do not have to purchase it from your selling dealer nor at the time of purchase. Their is a forum sponsor here, Denis Fitchner (check spelling) who sells the GM service contract lower than anyone else.

2. Keep your eye/ear open to issues with major components such as the drivetrain. Small percentage or not, a vehicle that had as extensive testing as the C8 should not be needing transmissions replaced at 850 mi in the 3rd year of production, period.

For example: my wife puts 25-30k mi/yr on her work vehicle. Her current vehicle is a ‘20 Grand Cherokee High Altitude with every available option including very expensive adjustable air suspension. Reading the Jeep forums, there are similar amounts of reports of issues with the air suspension as there are here with transmissions. So knowing she’ll be out of warranty in about 5 months, we’re adding the Mopar MaxCare service plan because I don’t want to pay $5k plus for new shocks if something goes wrong with the suspension. It’s a $2500 insurance policy for the next 70k mi until we trade it in.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
Often times you’ll hear that extended service contracts are a waste of money, but there are a few different caveats to that.

1. shop around for the factory-backed service contract. You do not have to purchase it from your selling dealer nor at the time of purchase. Their is a forum sponsor here, Denis Fitchner (check spelling) who sells the GM service contract lower than anyone else.

2. Keep your eye/ear open to issues with major components such as the drivetrain. Small percentage or not, a vehicle that had as extensive testing as the C8 should not be needing transmissions replaced at 850 mi in the 3rd year of production, period.

For example: my wife puts 25-30k mi/yr on her work vehicle. Her current vehicle is a ‘20 Grand Cherokee High Altitude with every available option including very expensive adjustable air suspension. Reading the Jeep forums, there are similar amounts of reports of issues with the air suspension as there are here with transmissions. So knowing she’ll be out of warranty in about 5 months, we’re adding the Mopar MaxCare service plan because I don’t want to pay $5k plus for new shocks if something goes wrong with the suspension. It’s a $2500 insurance policy for the next 70k mi until we trade it in.
Excellent advice, and I agree.

Question: what are the odds a bad transmission or other major costly manufacturing defect would NOT be discovered in the first three years of ownership? Looks like most of the bad C8 transmissions are discovered here pretty quickly in first few hundred miles. I realize that’s NOT universal. But what’s the chances you wake up 4 years after taking delivery and say “wow I now know I got stuck with a lemon”..?

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Originally Posted by C82021
Excellent advice, and I agree.

Question: what are the odds a bad transmission or other major costly manufacturing defect would NOT be discovered in the first three years of ownership? Looks like most of the bad C8 transmissions are discovered here pretty quickly in first few hundred miles. I realize that’s NOT universal. But what’s the chances you wake up 4 years after taking delivery and say “wow I now know I got stuck with a lemon”..?
The answer is really it’s anyone’s guess as the car hasn’t been out very long. There are so many factors that may contribute such as mileage, driving style, proper break-in. I haven’t seen any posts that have indicated a cause to the failures, so without that nobody knows how reliable or unreliable they will be over time.

My Z06 just hit 20k mi and is 10 years old. I haven’t had an issue with my LS7 but do I want to risk it and end up needing to replace the entire engine at $15k or do I want to spend $5k for brand new aftermarket heads as a preventative measure? I’m going to spend the $5k on new heads.

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Sorry to hear about your misfortune OP. I have read that the NHTSA has gotten involved with an investigation regarding this transmission. Here is the reference to this discussion.
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/c...ay-173055.html
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The article references GM's technical service bulletin that discusses this problem which seemingly relates to your problem you unfortunately are experiencing. File attached.
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Please keep the community posted about your status as this issue most likely is effecting many C8s.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
Often times you’ll hear that extended service contracts are a waste of money, but there are a few different caveats to that.

1. shop around for the factory-backed service contract. You do not have to purchase it from your selling dealer nor at the time of purchase. Their is a forum sponsor here, Denis Fitchner (check spelling) who sells the GM service contract lower than anyone else.

2. Keep your eye/ear open to issues with major components such as the drivetrain. Small percentage or not, a vehicle that had as extensive testing as the C8 should not be needing transmissions replaced at 850 mi in the 3rd year of production, period.

For example: my wife puts 25-30k mi/yr on her work vehicle. Her current vehicle is a ‘20 Grand Cherokee High Altitude with every available option including very expensive adjustable air suspension. Reading the Jeep forums, there are similar amounts of reports of issues with the air suspension as there are here with transmissions. So knowing she’ll be out of warranty in about 5 months, we’re adding the Mopar MaxCare service plan because I don’t want to pay $5k plus for new shocks if something goes wrong with the suspension. It’s a $2500 insurance policy for the next 70k mi until we trade it in.
I guess people are going to buy new vehicles, but your example should be the exception rather ran the rule. Spend 60K on a vehicle and then have to spend thousands more because the vehicle can't make it to 100K miles without costly repairs. Totally unacceptable.

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