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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 09:01 PM
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I've seen that this is a good thing to have in my vehicle. Is there a video or instructions on how to use them if needed? Thanks all.
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This is a chicken little issue. Might as well carry a torque wrench too in case a lug nut drops to 135 lb.ft. from 140 on a drive.
Not if you are stuck in the rain far from home and unable to put your top up. The torque wrench analogy is bogus. A few cheap zip ties hidden away in your frunk is cheap insurance against a problem that has been reported multiple times (see the forum link in a post above).
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Well I must be failing I don't have any zip-ties in my HTC can you post this video which claims they are a "good thing to have."
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 09:51 PM
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Actually, I put some large zip ties in my "must have tools and supplies bag" in the frunk. I haven't seen a video but it seems that their use to hold the tonneau headrest piece when the cable breaks would be fairly obvious.
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 07:09 AM
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Would like to see pics of exactly where you use the wire tire
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This is a chicken little issue. Might as well carry a torque wrench too in case a lug nut drops to 135 lb.ft. from 140 on a drive.
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 08:57 AM
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I have them in my frunk as well and was wondering 'how to' as well, but i'm thinking its pretty straight forward if this ever happens to you but hopefully not......But from all the people that have had this problem, it almost feels like its only a matter of time before it happens to me....Obviously a design problem and I wish GM would issue a recall and replace with a stronger cable instead of waiting for them to break.....
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
This is a chicken little issue. Might as well carry a torque wrench too in case a lug nut drops to 135 lb.ft. from 140 on a drive.
Not if you are stuck in the rain far from home and unable to put your top up. The torque wrench analogy is bogus. A few cheap zip ties hidden away in your frunk is cheap insurance against a problem that has been reported multiple times (see the forum link in a post above).
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I just got my broken cable repaired. When it broke, I put a zip tie I had in the trunk on the headrest bracket, in order to hold it retracted, so I could raise the top. It really doesn’t need any detailed instructions, it’s glaringly obvious that you need to fold the headrest piece and zip tie the support bracket to hold it in the retracted position. Here’s a picture of the broken cable and where I put the zip tie.
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Actually not even close to a chicken little issue!!! To my knowledge, the C8 does NOT have a Lug nut torque issue, so why would anyone carry a torque wrench with them. The C8 has a very big problem well known problem with the HTC cable breaking, and guys have not been able to close the HTC....The quick fix is Zip-Ties from guys that have actually 'Lived the problem'. Based on the large # of issues with this, your an Idiot if your attitude is 'This won't happen to me', and don't bother putting any Ties in your frunk, considering they take of 0 room as it's bound to happen after so many cycles.....But to each his own....LOL
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
This is a chicken little issue. Might as well carry a torque wrench too in case a lug nut drops to 135 lb.ft. from 140 on a drive.
While it's certainly not a real common problem, it's affected many more people than lost lugnuts have. And a couple of zip ties take up virtually no room or weight.
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I agree that most worries nowadays are Chicken Little issues. When I had a C3, I carried an abbreviated tool bag. Some clubs even had chase vans then. With my C4 carried less. At C6 I moved to few basic tools. C7 and above I carry nothing but a Leatherman tool. I did add a tire repair kit on C7, when I moved to non run flat tires. I have a 10 year record of having nothing to compel me to carry a thing. There is little one can fix in most every scenario. Even carrying my OBDII tester would do nothing but tell me you have an issue unfixable on the road. Cars in general are far more reliable than 40, 30 and 20 years ago and most folks wouldn't have a clue what to do anyhow yet I still see people standing on the side of road staring at the engine scratching their heads.

For 5 years now, I have had GM warranties and AAA, which means, one of them comes out and hauls the car to the nearest Chevy dealer. As a seasoned garage mechanic, most of todays problems cant be fixed in a well equipped garage, much less in a parking lot.
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If you're going to try and second-guess every possible mishap and carry effective corrective measures, you may need a luggage rack for the top, too!
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Originally Posted by gliot1
As a seasoned garage mechanic, most of todays problems cant be fixed in a well equipped garage, much less in a parking lot.
But in this case, a broken HTC cable, you CAN make a temporary repair, and all you need is a zip tie. When mine broke I was 2 hours from home, I’m glad I had a zip tie.
For those HTC owners who choose to carry a zip tie, I’ll describe the sequence of events as it happened to me.
1. I did hear a slight bang as I put the top down (I was already out of town), I decided I was probably imagining things.
2. Got to my next destination and was putting the top up. I got an error message on the DIC (I can’t remember exactly what it said, something about the top for sure).
3. Getting out to see what the problem might be (although I had already guessed) the driver’s side “headrest” piece was still extended and resting on the roof panel.
4. Here’s the important thing, the switch on the door panel would no longer operate. Obviously it would not continue closing the top since the headrest piece was contacting the roof, but it would also no longer lower the roof (raise the tonneau). It was stuck in that position, with the headrest on the roof panel and the sequence 80% complete. You would not want to drive the car like this for sure. I wouldn’t want it on a flatbed like that either.
5. I put the car in park and turned it off. Fortunately, from there I could use the key fob to operate the tonneau in engine access mode. Hit “Lock” on the fob and then immediately press and hold the convertible top button. That opened the tonneau so I could fold in the headrest piece and use my zip tie to secure it in the retracted position.
6. I then used the key fob to close the tonneau, same sequence, Press Lock then press and hold the convertible top button.
7. DIC message said top closed successfully (or something like that).
8. Obviously don’t try to operate the top again until it’s been repaired. I stopped by the dealership a few days later and used the key fob to do engine access mode to raise the tonneau and show the technician the problem. They ordered the parts and I brought it back 3-4 weeks later for the actual repair.

Note on step 5…..the owner’s manual says “The trunk and convertible top must be closed” but I was able to raise the tonneau in engine access mode while the top was stopped in it’s “jammed” position.

After just having it happen to me, I don’t know why an HTC owner would not throw a couple zip ties into their trunk. Simple thing to do and it’s actually a pretty simple temporary field repair. I was able to go about my business and get it fixed on my schedule.
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Ooph. First I've of this. And here i was thinking I would order an HTC for my one. Dam these cars are frustrating nowadays. So awesome but so finicky.
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Not if you are stuck in the rain far from home and unable to put your top up. The torque wrench analogy is bogus. A few cheap zip ties hidden away in your frunk is cheap insurance against a problem that has been reported multiple times (see the forum link in a post above).
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Originally Posted by 16falcon
But in this case, a broken HTC cable, you CAN make a temporary repair, and all you need is a zip tie. When mine broke I was 2 hours from home, I’m glad I had a zip tie.
For those HTC owners who choose to carry a zip tie, I’ll describe the sequence of events as it happened to me.
1. I did hear a slight bang as I put the top down (I was already out of town), I decided I was probably imagining things.
2. Got to my next destination and was putting the top up. I got an error message on the DIC (I can’t remember exactly what it said, something about the top for sure).
3. Getting out to see what the problem might be (although I had already guessed) the driver’s side “headrest” piece was still extended and resting on the roof panel.
4. Here’s the important thing, the switch on the door panel would no longer operate. Obviously it would not continue closing the top since the headrest piece was contacting the roof, but it would also no longer lower the roof (raise the tonneau). It was stuck in that position, with the headrest on the roof panel and the sequence 80% complete. You would not want to drive the car like this for sure. I wouldn’t want it on a flatbed like that either.
5. I put the car in park and turned it off. Fortunately, from there I could use the key fob to operate the tonneau in engine access mode. Hit “Lock” on the fob and then immediately press and hold the convertible top button. That opened the tonneau so I could fold in the headrest piece and use my zip tie to secure it in the retracted position.
6. I then used the key fob to close the tonneau, same sequence, Press Lock then press and hold the convertible top button.
7. DIC message said top closed successfully (or something like that).
8. Obviously don’t try to operate the top again until it’s been repaired. I stopped by the dealership a few days later and used the key fob to do engine access mode to raise the tonneau and show the technician the problem. They ordered the parts and I brought it back 3-4 weeks later for the actual repair.

Note on step 5…..the owner’s manual says “The trunk and convertible top must be closed” but I was able to raise the tonneau in engine access mode while the top was stopped in it’s “jammed” position.

After just having it happen to me, I don’t know why an HTC owner would not throw a couple zip ties into their trunk. Simple thing to do and it’s actually a pretty simple temporary field repair. I was able to go about my business and get it fixed on my schedule.
Thank you for this. My car is new-and I hope I never need this-but the pictures weren't explaining all of this to me.
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