Joined the transmission issue club :(
03-02-2024, 10:38 AM
#241
Racer
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Pettrix (03-02-2024)
03-02-2024, 03:48 PM
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That's what happenes when you have Tremec, who has never designed a DCT for mass production, produce one for the C8.
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billclerm (03-03-2024)
03-02-2024, 03:51 PM
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Toyota just issued a recall for 2022+ vehicles due to a safety issue about loose bolts on the axle. It will cost Toyota millions but Toyota will do voluntary recalls as its track record shows because it as a company cares about not killing or injuring its customers. Unlike GM, that only cares about profits, not people's lives
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03-02-2024, 03:52 PM
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Fast Dawg (03-03-2024)
03-02-2024, 03:59 PM
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While I'm not taking away from the bad experience @sowega had with GM I will say that I have owned numerous GM products over the years including five Corvettes with very few issues. I also can't remember any really bad dealership experiences that I've had with any of my GM vehicles. Hell - my first GM product was a 1972 Chevy Vega that burned two quarts of oil for every tank of gas. My Dad and I pulled that engine, sent it to a guy who sleeved the cylinder walls for the pistons, and my problem was solved. I had that car painted, added aftermarket wheels, built my own screaming sound system for it, and sold it for more than I had invested in it.
The C8 is wildly popular and we know that because it's well into its 5th year of production and is just now to the point where we are seeing them on dealer lots. We can't blame anything for that except demand. Wait lists for this car are just now starting to go away at some dealers as we are seeing from posts on this forum. I know it has attracted buyers who have never purchased a Corvette from posts here and speaking with people at car shows who own them. Porsche lost some customers - one of them a former neighbor of mine who had at least two in his garage before he bought a C8.
Again - not trying to discount the problem being discussed here. The parts situation is industry wide.
The C8 is wildly popular and we know that because it's well into its 5th year of production and is just now to the point where we are seeing them on dealer lots. We can't blame anything for that except demand. Wait lists for this car are just now starting to go away at some dealers as we are seeing from posts on this forum. I know it has attracted buyers who have never purchased a Corvette from posts here and speaking with people at car shows who own them. Porsche lost some customers - one of them a former neighbor of mine who had at least two in his garage before he bought a C8.
Again - not trying to discount the problem being discussed here. The parts situation is industry wide.
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Fast Dawg (03-03-2024)
03-02-2024, 04:01 PM
#248
Le Mans Master
I purchased a 7 year Chevrolet protection plan for $1429 that includes extending the powertrain portion for nearly an additional 5 years so it isn't that expensive.
03-02-2024, 05:12 PM
#249
Double check to make sure if the warranty duration begins when you buy the plan and not at the vehicle in service date. I am also sure that the CPP runs concurrent with the factory warranty. So basically you have 2 warranties running at the same time.
03-02-2024, 05:39 PM
#250
Le Mans Master
That's isn't too bad BUT I would read the fine print. Most warranty programs START at the purchase date so you might have only gotten an additional 2 years of protection AFTER the factory warranty expires. Factory warranty is 5 years/60k miles on drivetrain. So that 7 year plan will only give you 2 additional years AFTER the 5 year factory warranty expires.
Double check to make sure if the warranty duration begins when you buy the plan and not at the vehicle in service date. I am also sure that the CPP runs concurrent with the factory warranty. So basically you have 2 warranties running at the same time.
Double check to make sure if the warranty duration begins when you buy the plan and not at the vehicle in service date. I am also sure that the CPP runs concurrent with the factory warranty. So basically you have 2 warranties running at the same time.
03-04-2024, 11:27 AM
#251
Racer
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For sure. And, after they have to pay for a few transmission replacements, expect warranties to get more expensive and include less coverage - in my experience, insurance companies are in business to make $, not take care of their customers.
03-04-2024, 12:14 PM
#252
Le Mans Master
Well said. And, besides being in the business of making money, they're not dumb either. They know what the failures are on models they insure and either price the premiums accordingly, or exclude the high failure items. They don't lose money.
03-04-2024, 12:23 PM
#253
Melting Slicks
The GM Protection Plan has always provided excellent coverage and is very reasonable especially when purchased from one of the forum dealers on here. I had it on my C7 and it's a no brainer for the C8. I will buying it when my car reaches the end of the 3/36. I had one claim on my C7 and when I ended up selling it to a dealer I was able to get a refund for the unused portion. The 4 years of coverage (beyond the 3/36) on that car ended up costing me less than $500 out of pocket. Well worth the piece of mind when travelling cross country and knowing I could take it in to any GM dealer for service.
There are always those that say these protection plans are garbage, strictly because they are profit centers. Then some of these same people bitch and complain when their cars need a major repair out of warranty and on their dime. You cannot have it both ways. I will not own a Corvette out of warranty, or any car for that matter, that I cannot service myself.
There are always those that say these protection plans are garbage, strictly because they are profit centers. Then some of these same people bitch and complain when their cars need a major repair out of warranty and on their dime. You cannot have it both ways. I will not own a Corvette out of warranty, or any car for that matter, that I cannot service myself.
03-04-2024, 12:31 PM
#254
Racer
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Amen. While this transmission issue is a huge annoyance, and GM's handling of the repair has damaged my opinion of them, it's at least a covered repair. If I had to wait a month to get the car back AND pay them $25-30K? Oof.
Most of my life has been spent with a car that I KNEW would cost me a Saturday or Sunday of garage wrenching every few months at the very least, and some of them really stretched that (looking at you, tuned and deleted 335d, and especially YOU, 3000GT VR4). At this point, my time is worth way more than whatever a warranty costs, and I don't think I'll ever go back. Now I just hope that the wife gets rid of her diesel X5 before something else breaks and costs me a weekend, haha
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AORoads (03-05-2024)
03-04-2024, 09:38 PM
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So, a few points:
Historically speaking, I believe Tremec got into the DCT business by taking over a smaller firm that was already building them.
For long term owners with extended warranties, how good is this when a replacement for a failed transmission is the same unit with no design updates? You are replacing the failed unit with a new one that has the same problems?
When you see C8 owners selling their cars for pennies on the dollar because they are unwilling to bear the cost of replacing an out of warranty $25K transmission, C8 values will drop precipitously. And even then, with the trouble sourcing one of these units, how long will it take to get a car like this back on the road?
Historically speaking, I believe Tremec got into the DCT business by taking over a smaller firm that was already building them.
For long term owners with extended warranties, how good is this when a replacement for a failed transmission is the same unit with no design updates? You are replacing the failed unit with a new one that has the same problems?
When you see C8 owners selling their cars for pennies on the dollar because they are unwilling to bear the cost of replacing an out of warranty $25K transmission, C8 values will drop precipitously. And even then, with the trouble sourcing one of these units, how long will it take to get a car like this back on the road?
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03-05-2024, 12:41 AM
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03-05-2024, 12:56 AM
#258
Fast forward 5-10 years and all C8 warranties have expired. What would the cost be to replace the transmission? Just wondering what future out of pocket costs are looking like.
03-05-2024, 07:12 AM
#259
Le Mans Master
Estimate $25,000 to $30,000 with a new unit and labor. But, just like other GM chronic parts failures in the past, when OEM parts are no longer available for several reasons, then owners/shops head to the junk yards and Ebay. If you could get a junk unit, then labor still is going to be $5,000 to $10,000 depending on who does the labor.
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sowega (03-05-2024)
03-05-2024, 08:25 AM
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Racer
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I have to think that there will be either some design revision from GM and/or an aftermarket solution. If the car was otherwise mediocre or sold poorly, nobody would care. The C8 is a great car, and people are passionate about it - I think that, even if GM craps the bed and doesn't get to the bottom of the transmission issue, the market will find a better solution than treating the DCT like a perishable wear item.
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