Notices
C8 Stingray/General Discussion The place to discuss the next generation of Corvette including the Stingray.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Wheel Design

C8 Zora update

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 08:15 AM
  #41  
stingraymyway's Avatar
stingraymyway
Race Director
15 Year Member
St. Jude 10 Year Donor
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 11,334
Likes: 136
From: Out of Site...Out of Mind. Corvette: anything else is just transportation.
St. Jude Donor '09 thru '20
Default

Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Yep, my Hendrick dealership has been taking deposits for quite a while.
I don't know of any dealership that won't take your money. Be it for a car on the lot or a myth like Big Foot.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 10:27 AM
  #42  
Glenn Quagmire's Avatar
Glenn Quagmire
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,342
Likes: 604
Default

Originally Posted by jay23ls
So ppl are putting money down or deposits on a car that they don't know for sure will be built and if it does it might not even be under the Corvette brand... this is too perfect of an example of American consumerism haha

Dealerships = banks right now
YUP.

As you go up market with low volume cars, this is how it's done. Want an upcoming GT2? You better have had cash down a while ago! Want a 720S? Same thing.
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:04 PM
  #43  
Brent@StasekChevy's Avatar
0Brent@StasekChevy
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 251
Likes: 24
From: Wheeling Illinois
Default

We are taking deposits for a ZR1 or a mid engine, whichever or whatever ends up being built (or both!). All fully refundable and all vehicles not to be sold over list/MSRP.

Thanks!

Brent
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 09:45 PM
  #44  
Z06NJ's Avatar
Z06NJ
Drifting
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,744
Likes: 234
Default

Brent, that's a pretty solid deal. To be 100% refundable and NOT go over msrp for a 1st yr brand new model!!
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 07:24 AM
  #45  
JustinStrife's Avatar
JustinStrife
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 27,567
Likes: 99
From: San Diego
Default

Originally Posted by Paulchristian
The folks doing that are corvette traditionalist that don't want to live in reality. The C8 will be ALL different. A new formula targeting the next up coming generation of buyers. The C7 will live on for 3 more years (maybe 4), but it will be THE last front engine corvette.

The C8 will be a rear mid-engine. The people saying otherwise are all corvette traditionalists. The C7 brought in younger buyers and got young people thinking about Corvettes again. The C8 will be more in that direction.


alot of people made guesses on the C7 and it wasn't that big of a change from the C6 all things considering. Sorry if I laugh at your predictions as well.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 06:02 PM
  #46  
JerriVette's Avatar
JerriVette
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 16,066
Likes: 4,149
From: Bergen county NJ
Default

Dreamers love to dream....

Last corvette generation had its budget sliced and diced due to the implosion of the entire US economy...

This time around GM is much leaner and meaner...

I'm hopeful the new c8 is rear mid engine and very different...

Not that o don't love the current corvette....just after 20 years of buying new corvettes it would be interesting to see and drive something totally different.

Performance wise the current c7 z06 and upcoming ZR1 are above reproach...

Who even knows if the rear mid engine design will actually improve upon its track performance compared to those icons...

Should be interesting to see what finally comes out which originally was a dream of Zora Dontov of many decades ago.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 08:13 PM
  #47  
JustinStrife's Avatar
JustinStrife
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 27,567
Likes: 99
From: San Diego
Default

Originally Posted by JerriVette
Dreamers love to dream....

Last corvette generation had its budget sliced and diced due to the implosion of the entire US economy...

This time around GM is much leaner and meaner...

I'm hopeful the new c8 is rear mid engine and very different...

Not that o don't love the current corvette....just after 20 years of buying new corvettes it would be interesting to see and drive something totally different.

Performance wise the current c7 z06 and upcoming ZR1 are above reproach...

Who even knows if the rear mid engine design will actually improve upon its track performance compared to those icons...

Should be interesting to see what finally comes out which originally was a dream of Zora Dontov of many decades ago.
This makes me laugh. Why not buy a competitor that fits what you want then? Why completely change the Corvette because you want something 'different'?

That's like being tired of America's laws and way of life, and wanting to change it instead of just moving to a country that fits your lifestyle and needs. It makes zero sense to me.

Last edited by JustinStrife; Apr 6, 2017 at 08:14 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 08:15 PM
  #48  
spearfish25's Avatar
spearfish25
Melting Slicks
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 3,169
Likes: 861
From: Naples FL
Default

There will be a plethora of ZR1, Zora, whatevers. I'm happy waiting 6-12 months for the 15% off deals to start.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 9, 2017 | 06:37 PM
  #49  
Chicago1's Avatar
Chicago1
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 12,413
Likes: 502
From: Rio Rancho NM
Default

Originally Posted by JustinStrife


alot of people made guesses on the C7 and it wasn't that big of a change from the C6 all things considering. Sorry if I laugh at your predictions as well.
I remember when people thought it was going to be a lot lighter because of some statement saying the frame is 100lb lighter. people were figuring it would be lighten the the c6z06 base..When the c7 finally came out that sucker got a pit porkier and of course no one believed the taillights/rendering that Jalopnik put out a YEAR BEFORE was really what it looked like... I watched the meltdown
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 01:11 AM
  #50  
senah's Avatar
senah
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 998
Likes: 122
Default

Originally Posted by JustinStrife
This makes me laugh. Why not buy a competitor that fits what you want then? Why completely change the Corvette because you want something 'different'?

That's like being tired of America's laws and way of life, and wanting to change it instead of just moving to a country that fits your lifestyle and needs. It makes zero sense to me.
the car companies don't care about that. a majority (notice i said a majority, not all) of buyers who prefer the current style of corvette will be dead within 20 years. a majority of the millennia kids don't care much about cars or home ownership, or reading/listening to repetitive b/s news that just gets recycled with new names, faces and places, but maintains the same fear based content. a recent prediction stated that there was a possibility that used car prices might be 50 percent lower in 5 years.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...3Bb?li=BBnbfcN

so gm is looking at how to keep its business going, not at what a small section of its car buyers want or don't want. at some point sticking to the old paradigm will bankrupt you, so providing what people will buy and sales methods they prefer in the future are absolutely essential to stay healthy economically. sears and jc penney are perfect examples of what happens if you ignore it.

in case you aren't paying attention, there has been a massive change in "America's...way of life" since the internet became so widely used.

Last edited by senah; Apr 10, 2017 at 01:33 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 03:16 PM
  #51  
JustinStrife's Avatar
JustinStrife
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 27,567
Likes: 99
From: San Diego
Default

Originally Posted by senah
the car companies don't care about that. a majority (notice i said a majority, not all) of buyers who prefer the current style of corvette will be dead within 20 years. a majority of the millennia kids don't care much about cars or home ownership, or reading/listening to repetitive b/s news that just gets recycled with new names, faces and places, but maintains the same fear based content. a recent prediction stated that there was a possibility that used car prices might be 50 percent lower in 5 years.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...3Bb?li=BBnbfcN

so gm is looking at how to keep its business going, not at what a small section of its car buyers want or don't want. at some point sticking to the old paradigm will bankrupt you, so providing what people will buy and sales methods they prefer in the future are absolutely essential to stay healthy economically. sears and jc penney are perfect examples of what happens if you ignore it.

in case you aren't paying attention, there has been a massive change in "America's...way of life" since the internet became so widely used.
Massive change in America's way of life? We still have malls, still have movie theaters, still have cars on the ground, havent been back to the moon in 40 years, the biggest change is internet and cell phones. Life hasnt changed that much other than people not socializing in person as much as they use to.

GM has to be very careful about what it does with the Corvette. It is a money maker, and they cannot afford to gamble and lose its' success. They sell more corvettes than any other manufacturer for a car of this level. And they make money on every single one of them. Change for the sake of change is not economically smart. Just ask Coke how that went.

Also, for all of the people clamoring for mid engine, dct, all wheel drive, etc... Do you really want your 150-200k dollar Corvette serviced at a Chevrolet dealership? I sure as hell wouldnt. A friend of mine is a tech for Mercedes. The differences between dealerships, service centers, and employees, is night and day with Chevrolet.

Last edited by JustinStrife; Apr 10, 2017 at 03:19 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 05:20 PM
  #52  
senah's Avatar
senah
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 998
Likes: 122
Default

if you look only on the surface, you might think that the changes aren't massive. change is not coming, it's already here, and it is and will be massive. if you look at non conventional news sources, you will see the reports. also, tesla has surpassed gm and ford in market capitalization. the president was able to get elected by communicating directly with the people and spending almost no money on b/s advertisement, just as jesse ventura did to become governor of minnesota. the lies that we are fed about various large organizations that wield a lot of power over the masses are being shaken to the core.

gm looks at the future and does the best it can to predict what is best for its economic goals. those decisions and actions will determine the future of the corvette, and we will be observers, not decision makers, other than buying or not buying the end product.

Last edited by senah; Apr 10, 2017 at 05:24 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 06:11 PM
  #53  
mirage2991's Avatar
mirage2991
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,912
Likes: 266
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by spearfish25
There will be a plethora of ZR1, Zora, whatevers. I'm happy waiting 6-12 months for the 15% off deals to start.
yup, pretty much...
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 09:07 PM
  #54  
RonBurgAM's Avatar
RonBurgAM
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 195
Likes: 82
From: Pittsburgh
Default

Originally Posted by JustinStrife
Massive change in America's way of life? We still have malls, still have movie theaters, still have cars on the ground, havent been back to the moon in 40 years, the biggest change is internet and cell phones. Life hasnt changed that much other than people not socializing in person as much as they use to.

GM has to be very careful about what it does with the Corvette. It is a money maker, and they cannot afford to gamble and lose its' success. They sell more corvettes than any other manufacturer for a car of this level. And they make money on every single one of them. Change for the sake of change is not economically smart. Just ask Coke how that went.

Also, for all of the people clamoring for mid engine, dct, all wheel drive, etc... Do you really want your 150-200k dollar Corvette serviced at a Chevrolet dealership? I sure as hell wouldnt. A friend of mine is a tech for Mercedes. The differences between dealerships, service centers, and employees, is night and day with Chevrolet.
Well hold on just a second... Malls are in a tremendous decline. Anchor stores are getting hammered every year, e.g., Pennys and Sears. Online retail is continually gaining market share.

US Box Office Receipts have increased from $6b to $11b from 1996 to 2016 in actual dollars. In inflation adjusted, it is flat. Over 20 years.

Life is VERY different. Most kids don't give a $hit about cars. Or stereos. Or posters. I agree that GM has to be careful with the Vette, but don't get left behind. There was a $hitstorm over not having round tailights but that may have been the best call ever. Change is good.

Good excuse to post my favorite poster...

Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 04:40 AM
  #55  
Z51JEFF's Avatar
Z51JEFF
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,143
Likes: 936
From: Fremont Ca
2022 C4 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Default

Originally Posted by JustinStrife

Also, for all of the people clamoring for mid engine, dct, all wheel drive, etc... Do you really want your 150-200k dollar Corvette serviced at a Chevrolet dealership? I sure as hell wouldnt. A friend of mine is a tech for Mercedes. The differences between dealerships, service centers, and employees, is night and day with Chevrolet.
Do you honestly think GM would release a $200,000 car without a specialized division for service requirements? I'm all for the Mid engine car and any and all ZR1 models,just might shine a little light on us long forgotten C4 ZR-1 owners.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2017 | 07:14 AM
  #56  
JerriVette's Avatar
JerriVette
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 16,066
Likes: 4,149
From: Bergen county NJ
Default

Originally Posted by JustinStrife
This makes me laugh. Why not buy a competitor that fits what you want then? Why completely change the Corvette because you want something 'different'?

That's like being tired of America's laws and way of life, and wanting to change it instead of just moving to a country that fits your lifestyle and needs. It makes zero sense to me.
Not quite sure what you don't understand in my statement. I like my corvettes serviced at the same trusted dealer. I like the fact that parts for my car when needed are inexpensive especially compared to exotics whose performance the corvette equals or surpasses.

I find it insulting when I read the cost of ownership and maintaince on other brands. I sure as hell have my eyes bug out when my neighbors tell me what they pay for service...(Ferrari, Maserati, porsches, jaguars and BMW s)

GM validates its cars for 300k miles,,and the gmepp extended warranty is ridiculously inexpensive...

Porsche , Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, McLaren ,lotus and Alfa are all bend over brands when it comes to the cost of maintaince and repairs...

The pre owned McLaren 12c looked tempting until you looked a little deeper into potiential maintaince costs...

I didn't get to where I am in life by being ridiculous and ultra high cost expensive repairs are not necessary to enjoy among the best sports cars.


That's what corvette stands for..

Strong performance 2 seaters that kick the living crap out of the so called euro trash while costing thousands less and not costing an arm and a leg to service over time...

Still...a mid engine c8 would be the culmination of many concept cars the corvette team has shown....and would be cool to own next time around,


Just my opinions...
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2017 | 01:19 AM
  #57  
Michael A's Avatar
Michael A
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,084
Likes: 3,056
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by JerriVette

Performance wise the current c7 z06 and upcoming ZR1 are above reproach...
Don't forget the Grand Sport. Some people even consider it the most balanced Corvette ever.

Michael
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2022 | 02:33 AM
  #58  
JW Gears's Avatar
JW Gears
Heel & Toe
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 1
Default

You are correct about those low production numbers for Corvettes when you are making almost a half a million very profitable Silverados. However, I have read from multiple sources that the profit break even point for Corvette production is 12,000 units per year. When you consistently make 32,000 to 37,000 Corvettes a year, the car is now relevant not only as a "halo car" but as a profit center. I found it interesting that in 2019, the last year of Impala, Lacrosse, and Cadillac XTS production more Corvettes were built and sold than Impalas. I believe the number was something like 17,000 Impalas, and this was a car that sold millions during the 1950's and 1960's an half a million a year in the 1980's and 1990's.
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2022 | 08:16 AM
  #59  
BIG Dave's Avatar
BIG Dave
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 6,516
Likes: 4,840
From: One Hour From Boston!
Default

Five year old thread??? 🧟‍♂️
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:37 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 11:09:53


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE