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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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C7 front engine evolution for at least two years...has been predicted..
2020 c8 rear mid engine supercar in recent spy shots at mcdonalds etc..it's coming....and we corvette enthusiasts can't wait...

But wait...did GM drop the ball by not offering a corvette branded version of a competitor for this vehicle...

A real sports car for all Terrain.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/10/...iness-7741622/

I think this could be the volume corvette soft roader that shows GM how to leverage the desirable brand ...for profit

That urus will be a new market segment that will explode in the coming years...

A corvette branded and powered version of the everyday American urus would be an instant success and as shown by Porsche would not dilute the brand at all...

100k units a year if priced like the standard c7 stingray...powered by an LT1 throwing down 460 hp and awd.

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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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There's a lot of money in the high end, performance SUV market. Jaguar, Lambo, Alfa Romeo, Porsche, BMW, all making big profits. I'm surprised GM hasn't gone down this route with Corvette.
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 09:39 PM
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Why in the hell would anyone want to do this to Corvette?
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:34 PM
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Why, Chevy already has $80,000 SUV.s, pick ups and sister brands that have everything the average Joe wants. Just put a C8 tag on a Tahoe and you are set. By the time they develop it the rest of the world will be electric, and oops, here we are, behind again. KISS has worked well for Chevrolet/GM I doubt that they will throw that away. Sticking to the Corvette and keeping it under the Chevrolet banner has been a good move for GM, increasingly better since the C5.
They could try and beat the market and introduce a "soft" road all electric and that would lead the market...beat Tesla and the Chinese.
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:39 PM
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A salesman I talked to at Kerbeck told me this Spring,

"If GM came out with a Corvette SUV, I'd be able to retire in two years."
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GregNYC
A salesman I talked to at Kerbeck told me this Spring,

"If GM came out with a Corvette SUV, I'd be able to retire in two years."
Interesting. That is what Porsche said when they introduced the Cayenne! Most Porsche owners own an SUV, why can’t it be ours?!

They took thier Volkswagen/Audi SUV and added a Porsche engine, upgraded interior and some exterior cosmetic features. Got us to buy one for the wife.

But she likes her BMW X5 SUV better. I do as well, it handles fine and service is closer. Porsche service is way too expensive. BMW isn’t cheap but for 4 years, everything is “Free.” Perhaps it’s just paying up front for a 4 year, no deductible insurance policy but the car is a bit cheaper than the Porsche an no $250 oil changes! Porsche wanted $2600 for pads and rotors so traded it in on a BMW! The free service includes 3 windshield wipers/year, brake pads (rotors, if needed) etc etc. When it’s 4 years old will trade for a new one!

My first reaction was GM has enough SUVs but would not buy a Chevy and we looked at the Caddy but unlike what they have done with the CTS Sedan the SUV is not a great car, IMO. So perhaps a Corvette SUV could sell?

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I can see a "Corvette" SUV.
Drop the LT4 in a sporty looking, dumbed-down Escalade and it should be good to go.
Afterall, Jeep has put Hellcats in Grand Cherokees.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I can see a "Corvette" SUV.
Drop the LT4 in a sporty looking, dumbed-down Escalade and it should be good to go.
Afterall, Jeep has put Hellcats in Grand Cherokees.
I agree to an extent, not sure the escalade/tahoe/yukon are best because its such a large vehicle but they could definitely use a "SRT" sub brand for performance cars. Then a version of the big suv, mid size suv, sedan, hatch, etc.
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Originally Posted by tbrenny33
not sure the escalade/tahoe/yukon are best because its such a large vehicle
GM would need to use a lighter, sportier chassis before slapping the Corvette nameplate to it.
they could definitely use a "SRT" sub brand for performance cars.
I agree.
I have had SRTs and SVTs over the years and have enjoyed them all.
I liked the, for lack of a better word, exclusivity.
It is a little odd GM never jumped on that marketing bandwagon too.
Then a version of the big suv, mid size suv, sedan, hatch, etc.
Sounds good to me.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I can see a "Corvette" SUV.
Drop the LT4 in a sporty looking, dumbed-down Escalade and it should be good to go.
Afterall, Jeep has put Hellcats in Grand Cherokees.
GMC is already has a 6.2L engine version of their Sierra Denali. Admittedly, its a PU, but if you've never seen one on the inside, it's a pretty sweet truck.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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The 6.2L GMC is using is not the ground-shaking LT4 used in the Z06 and ZL1.
The thought of the 707hp Hellcat in a Jeep is pretty mind-numbing.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
The 6.2L GMC is using is not the ground-shaking LT4 used in the Z06 and ZL1.
The thought of the 707hp Hellcat in a Jeep is pretty mind-numbing.
But I would take it over either the LT4 or the Hellcat when it comes to pulling a load down the road. What is interesting about the big GM SUVs (Tahoe's, Burbs, Yukons, Yukon XL, and the two Escalades) is how nimble they are when you want to toss them around a little. They basically own the big SUV market and provide some excellent equipment. My current Tahoe is 15 years old with 113K miles and still going strong.

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The Lamborghini urus is the lead in the marketplace ..you ll notice for a cuv it's sleek as hell. It's a four door go anywhere sexy sportscar cuv.

I believe this will be a huge profit center as it has been for Porsches Macan ...and even Jaguars f type and upcoming ev electric jaguar I pace.

Utilizing an ev power train solely would if designed to look similiar to the Lamborghini jars and sold as a corvette branded product would be quite radical.

Originally as I posted this I thought of just using a LT1 or LT4 powertrains...but actually an electric only powertrains with hyper motors awd and designed sleekly would crush the marketplace...

GMC could have a more "professional grade" styling , Buick a luxury version along with Cadillac and Chevy a basic version..

The corvette version could have ludicrious mode like motors and performance...

Whether it be all electric or powered by LT1 motors a derivative of the Lamborghini urus concept as a corvette would make corvette brand boatloads of money...

Corvette enthusiasts often have cuv s in the garage...and as mentioned earlier...Porsche found great sales success expanding its brand without detriment to the brand..

The huge escapade LT1 and LT4 powered version of the escapade was not exactly what I was suggesting...

I believe Porsches success was the performance traits of the cuv were similiar to the Porsche sports cars.

Launching the rear mid engine corvette would deliver so much showroom traffic...a launch of a ev cuv or LT1 cuv urus derived like cuv would be the profit center for the entire Chevy dealer network...

Makes too much sense to me...I can tell as I type this...it won't happen ....and instead we'll see more mundane cuv products from Buick and Cadillac..
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
What is interesting about the big GM SUVs (Tahoe's, Burbs, Yukons, Yukon XL, and the two Escalades) is how nimble they are when you want to toss them around a little.
This true for pretty much all American SUVs (FWIW, I owned a gen 2 Escalade back-in-the-day and loved it).
I have had every gen of Grand Cherokee built for the last 20 some years, including a 2008 SRT.
I picked up a 2017 GC Overland a couple of months ago...it has the smoothest drivetrain of any vehicle I have ever owned.
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The srt8 jeep is cool as is the escapade but neither are tapping into the market segment that jaguars I pace, jaguars f pace or the Porsche Macan..much less the extreme sports utility vehicle the Lamborghini Urus...

The jeep srt8 is fast ..but its body on frame type real sports utility vehicle that is slightly missing the sports car like awd four door Urus type vehicle the corvette brand should create.

The image building for GM would be screaming cool just like the front mid engine and rear mid engine corvette sports cars but men and women with family car needs could live their dream of owning a corvette..

There are millions of america dreaming of owning a corvette that aren't because of some degree of practicality needs ...
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Am I missing something? When did the Corvette become a brand? The Corvette is "model," just like the Camaro is, and the Malibu, and the Equinox, etc.

I'm not opposed to the ideas above, but the high-end SUV's you mention are all models of the relative brands, all of which have a commensurate cache.

Are we going to see a Corvette-only dealership with the appropriate level of higher quality service and sales? I'm all for that, but it's a little late in the game to play catchup. I'd hate to take my pricey Corvette SUV to the Chevy dealer. I already do so with my Corvette sports car because I don't have a choice, but there are too many options in SUV's to have to deal with yet another high-end car at a Chevy store.
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Am I missing something? When did the Corvette become a brand? The Corvette is "model," just like the Camaro is, and the Malibu, and the Equinox, etc.

I'm not opposed to the ideas above, but the high-end SUV's you mention are all models of the relative brands, all of which have a commensurate cache.

Are we going to see a Corvette-only dealership with the appropriate level of higher quality service and sales? I'm all for that, but it's a little late in the game to play catchup. I'd hate to take my pricey Corvette SUV to the Chevy dealer. I already do so with my Corvette sports car because I don't have a choice, but there are too many options in SUV's to have to deal with yet another high-end car at a Chevy store.
Actually I believe Corvette is not a Chevrolet "model". I don't see the Chevy bow-tie anywhere on the car. I would consider it a sub-brand, stand-alone, but sold under the banner of Chevrolet.
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Originally Posted by zhopper05
Actually I believe Corvette is not a Chevrolet "model". I don't see the Chevy bow-tie anywhere on the car. I would consider it a sub-brand, stand-alone, but sold under the banner of Chevrolet.
My question was more rhetorical. My car registration says Chevrolet Corvette, and if you go on a Chevrolet website the Corvette is listed under models of cars. I don’t think having the bowtie on the car actually changes its status.

Unfortunately, the Corvette is still serviced at Chevrolet dealerships as would be the Corvette SUV if it were ever produced. I think that would be the major drawback to a Corvette SUV. If people have a choice I think they would pick the SUV that does not force them to go to a dealership that has such a poor reputation for service and sales.
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