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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 05:47 PM
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Plan view, for God's sake. You are Shirley, I'll be Beverley.

Beverly Sills,Beverly Johnson or Beverley Owen...makes a huge difference...


I'll give you all the views Bev...

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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 05:49 PM
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Plan view, for God's sake. You are Shirley, I'll be Beverley.
Now. Draw!
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:01 PM
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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Locking in 1.......2.........3.........
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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FVS, I give you a lot of props for trying to expressively and diplomatically get things back on track. You have gone above and beyond. If Shaka and IronV would just create their own thread and stay away from the render threads this would be a happy place. Instead they make it frustrating and tedious, and suck any excitement out of the room.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:32 PM
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FVS, I give you a lot of props for trying to expressively and diplomatically get things back on track. You have gone above and beyond. If Shaka and IronV would just create their own thread and stay away from the render threads this would be a happy place. Instead they make it frustrating and tedious, and suck any excitement out of the room.
Thanks. I think Shaka said it himself. His main interest is in the aero aspects of the car...and that's great...and important...and interesting, but it is his "humor" and dismissive nature that ruins the discussion. He's just ornery and really doesn't want to hear anything that does not agree with his POV ...even if Ferrari, Porsche, Koenigsegg and GM have spent millions if not billions of dollars combined to work out these issues.

I do think a separate Engineering and Aero thread where we can discuss the details and benefits of certain designs and why specific surfaces and features are needed or will be needed in order to get the performance the ME needs to be competitive.

But I will post updated drawings and views so he can show us how and where the aero features should be VS where we can see them and know them to be from the spy and CAD images and how he thinks the air will flow.

As long as he remains relatively polite, I don't mind a little ribbing and humor in these threads...it is entertainment after-all. Again. Emojis are our friends.



* A beautiful car! *Stance similar to the DBS ! *Looks exactly like a mid-engine corvette. *COMPLETELY redone from the C7 aesthetic. *The design is both evolutionary and revolutionary. *As sexy as a 488GTB *The whole front as a complete design is really something special IMO. * A game changer. * Amazing , you almost get high and disoriented from the shock of amazement? Ya, this is what this car will do to people.

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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:52 PM
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FVS you are doing great stuff here, but don't respond to the trolling. It's what they want. Just ignore them. It's the call and response to the trolling that got the other thread locked, and it will happen again if you keep feeding them.
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 03:05 AM
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The whole point in trying to accurately assess the aero aspects is to better understand how the vents might be shaped and integrated into the overall car.

You can't have one without the other.

Any thread discussing the unknown aspects of the design must use scientific principles as well as aesthetic ones.

It is true that some members are more difficult to communicate with than others, but that's part of what makes the forum fun. If we all thought the same, we'd only need a single post on every topic.

With all that said, I feel that there is something funky with the side vent. Looks like it is pinched off at the top. Maybe it's just a perspective thing.

-T

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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackaholic
The whole point in trying to accurately assess the aero aspects is to better understand how the vents might be shaped and integrated into the overall car.

You can't have one without the other.

Any thread discussing the unknown aspects of the design must use scientific principles as well as aesthetic ones.

It is true that some members are more difficult to communicate with than others, but that's part of what makes the forum fun. If we all thought the same, we'd only need a single post on every topic.

With all that said, I feel that there is something funky with the side vent. Looks like it is pinched off at the top. Maybe it's just a perspective thing.

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You think you can get away with being knowledgeable and reasonable? Think again MISTER!

Of course. You're right on every count. And it's not just the vents and intakes of course. It's the way the air flows over, under and around the car--low pressure, high pressure, drag coefficient. All that good stuff. Nothing you don't know about.

The point is that in modern design, those things influence the shape and look of the car as much as the designers do. They are integral to the design. Looking forward to FVS's next rev integrating the King of Aero's, the Duke of Drag's, ideas--Mr. Shaka!--Ladies and Gentlemen...
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 09:23 AM
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KEEP FEEDING THE TROLLS AND THIS THREAD WILL JOIN A LONG LIST WITH THE LOCK :chill :
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 10:31 AM
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KEEP FEEDING THE TROLLS AND THIS THREAD WILL JOIN A LONG LIST WITH THE LOCK :chill :
Hey Deb, my wife's name is Deborah, I dare not call her Deb, get with it. This is a healthy thread, let it be.
Everybody here simply loves cars, all cars, with a special affinity toward Vettes, the best car in the world. Vettes must look a certain way. This notion is the glue that keeps these loonies together. It is a dysfunctional family. We love one another. The sensible guys are in the tech and racing sections but I prefer to be amongst the bewildered.
Until other subjects form in the C8 section after the car is for sale, stupid threads like this will fade away. Enjoy the chaos.
I drive the living S.H.one.T out of my Vettes and it is not a good idea to buy a used one from me.
The guys here are not like you and me who explore the performance limits of their car. Their's will never over heat. Bless them.
You need to be more like a principle of a kinderkarten and let us babies romp in the sand pit. Some are bound to cry.
Like the 'other' thread, this one will stay alive until the unveiling and the sale of the first C8 or if a mean moderator spoils our fun.
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackaholic
The whole point in trying to accurately assess the aero aspects is to better understand how the vents might be shaped and integrated into the overall car.

You can't have one without the other.

Any thread discussing the unknown aspects of the design must use scientific principles as well as aesthetic ones.

It is true that some members are more difficult to communicate with than others, but that's part of what makes the forum fun. If we all thought the same, we'd only need a single post on every topic.

With all that said, I feel that there is something funky with the side vent. Looks like it is pinched off at the top. Maybe it's just a perspective thing.

-T
I don't think it will be good for Corvette if you can't have trouble free track days which cause law suits. People didn't take kindly to a judge ruling against loyal and dedicated Corvette owners. Once you go beyond 500 hp, the engineer has to be very creative to keep the damned thing cool. You don't have to worry about overheating if you use your Vette as a blvd cruiser like most do, especially those on this thread.. Heck, you are using only 65 hp at a steady 80mph below 2000rpm. Tracks vary in topography and altitude and DA nation wide. The engineer has to design for all scenarios. They had better get it right this time. This thread was intended to be open. Let one thread take it's natural course please.
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
I see you have something in your render marked as "deck venting". I must have missed that one. Is that something that is apparent in the CAD drawings?
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Thanks for "cleaning up" the thread DebRedZR1!!
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I see you have something in your render marked as "deck venting". I must have missed that one. Is that something that is apparent in the CAD drawings?
C7pimp mentioned that there was some sort of venting on the rear deck hatch but he said it was not Lambo style louvers or anything like that. I suppose it is similar to the Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by Trackaholic
The whole point in trying to accurately assess the aero aspects is to better understand how the vents might be shaped and integrated into the overall car.

You can't have one without the other.

Any thread discussing the unknown aspects of the design must use scientific principles as well as aesthetic ones.

It is true that some members are more difficult to communicate with than others, but that's part of what makes the forum fun. If we all thought the same, we'd only need a single post on every topic.

With all that said, I feel that there is something funky with the side vent. Looks like it is pinched off at the top. Maybe it's just a perspective thing.

-T
We are all still guessing at the details and especially the side scoop since it is a huge focal point. The only thing we can "see" is maybe the top and bottom edges peeking through the camo on some pics.

The angles and lines we see on the black tarp could well be padding to disguise the true form.

C7pimp said the rendering is close to the "look" of the car. He also said the doors curves in and down toward the rear to create the ledge and coke-bottle effect which should help guide air to the scoops. The actual shape is still unknown. Hopefully we get some more hints and better camo spy pics without the tarp soon since spring is almost here.

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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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I see you have something in your render marked as "deck venting". I must have missed that one. Is that something that is apparent in the CAD drawings?
Ignore. Fake news.
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I love all this info. Please go out and purchase one as soon as you can. I'll keep my old C6. I'm not going to sell my house just to have a car. If the pricing is going to be over $150.000
Gm/Chevrolet is out of there mind's. Maybe sell it under the Cadillac Division. That would make more sense. Keep the front engine design a Corvette sold by Chevy. Remember it's a Chevy. Supposed to GM's lowest priced models.

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FVS, I give you a lot of props for trying to expressively and diplomatically get things back on track. You have gone above and beyond. If Shaka and IronV would just create their own thread and stay away from the render threads this would be a happy place. Instead they make it frustrating and tedious, and suck any excitement out of the room.
I can't seem to find any of your renders. Here are some of mine. What is your honest opinion, do you think the C8 should look like this? What about a facelift on the C7 before it is gone. Check out the active wing. Cool hey? Nobody can draw cars better and me.



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